She Actually Appeared

[No Swansong]

Not really. Your use of the word “often” is problematic.

I’ve encountered enough tramatized teenage girls whose behaviors were consistent with what they said and decision making, whereas Ms. Ford’s aren’t.

From the many girls and victims I’ve worked with, or the countless investigative affidavits by detectives that I’ve read, to the victim advocates I’ve worked with, these teenage girls had one common thought, get away from the person trying to physically hurt me when I can, and survive. From that, many of the victims wanted to get out of the house, car, hotel room, etcetera, away from the assailant, and to a phone, to people or a person who could help. When they couldn’t, they had a plausible, believable, explanation, or the explanation had some modicum of making sense. This isn’t, at this moment, true of Ms. Ford’s account.

Does this mean Ms. Ford is lying? Not necessarily, but it can create doubt, and justifiably so.

In addition, there’s the paradox of hearing the boys laugh but the music in the room is loud to drown out her screams.

There’s also the unresolved issues surrounding her account of how she got home.

Not really. Your use of the word “often” is problematic.

Admittedly "often" is a subjective word. Perhaps I might have used "a number of?"

I’ve encountered enough tramatized teenage girls whose behaviors were consistent with what they said and decision making, whereas Ms. Ford’s aren’t.

You and I clearly have different points of view. You deal and have dealt with young women strong enough to think relatively clearly and although frightened involve law enforcement. My experience has been mostly with young women that did not have that strength or those decision making skills. And I dare say I have probably (based upon your stated 13 years) dealt with at least as many of these victims and probably more.

From the many girls and victims I’ve worked with, or the countless investigative affidavits by detectives that I’ve read, to the victim advocates I’ve worked with, these teenage girls had one common thought, get away from the person trying to physically hurt me when I can, and survive.

Indeed "get away" but for young women who are not clear headed running to the bathroom is getting away, at least temporarily.

From that, many of the victims wanted to get out of the house, car, hotel room, etcetera, away from the assailant, and to a phone, to people or a person who could help.

I'm sure this is true, considering that you qualified your statement with the word "many."

When they couldn’t, they had a plausible, believable, explanation, or the explanation had some modicum of making sense. This isn’t, at this moment, true of Ms. Ford’s account.

Why not? If her statement is true then she effectively separated herself from her assailant.

Does this mean Ms. Ford is lying? Not necessarily, but it can create doubt, and justifiably so.

I've know too many young women who have done a similar thing to think it should create doubt.

In addition, there’s the paradox of hearing the boys laugh but the music in the room is loud to drown out her screams.

Considering that the boys allegedly were in the same room as her and that they, again allegedly, were trying to keep her screams from being heard by people outside the room it is entirely possible she could hear them laughing.

There’s also the unresolved issues surrounding her account of how she got home.

Traumatized victims often forget some matters of fact. Do you claim that is not true?

I, having watched their testimonies am in the odd position that I believe that they both believe they are telling the truth. I'm not sure there is a liar here as much as there is a memory issue involved. If she is a traumatized victim memory issues are possible, the same can be said of an 18 year old who drank heavily.

 

[SolomonVII]

Difficult to feel sorry for a Judge. As a general rule they destroy peoples lives all the time.

Uh, no Judges do not destroy people's lives.
They make judgments on point of law, put rapists away, and filter the innocent from the guilty.

 

[No Swansong]

Uh, no Judges do not destroy people's lives.
They make judgments on point of law, put rapists away, and filter the innocent from the guilty.

I am sure that the vast majority of judges are ethical jurists. I am just as sure that there are some corrupt judges, probably not many, but they exist.

 

[SolomonVII]

American conservatives almost universally regard Kavanaugh's animated testimony as a watershed moment. We have all seen our conservative ideas being maligned as bigotry, as racism and sexism and as evil, just like Kavanagh had been smeared from long before the sexual allegations came up. He spoke for all conservatives in his firing back with all barrels against the smears and the mindless hatred of the Democratic left. He said what we all felt.
Thoroughly decent people who have thusly been maligned by Democratic lies from the Senate, such as Mitt Romney having the snivelling Harry Reid as someone who does not pay taxes, ended up coming off as weak for bending over and taking, much like Bush took it over and over again without saying anything.

Trump does not take it like that, but people trying to leave decent, conservative lives really do not find their voice in Trump, a man who boasts of his indecency.

But Kavanaugh spoke for conservatives everywhere in his scathing review of leftist politics and the scurrilous low life who have been assassinating his character from the safety of their Senate chairs. He called them out for the slimy, immoral greaseballs that they so shamelessly show themselves to be, time and time and time again.
Win or lose, this was an historic moment for conservatives. He spoke for himself well, and in doing so, he spoke for all of us.
Of course, those on the left will disagree. But just because nobody likes to be exposed as the low life that they are, it does not make it any less true.

Jews sometimes speak of their Matza moment. In the long history of European maligning of Jewish character, it was often very easy for a Jew not of the dominant country to begin to believe the slurs being made against his kind. But when the slurs came to evolve kidnapping and bleeding out Christian children for blood to use in their matzas, it all became too preposterous.
Kavanagh being the leader of a rape gang is that kind of Matza moment.

Leftists loathe conservatives enough to say anything about us, without even caring if there is a smidgen of truth to the claim. We get that.
But the matza moment is recognizing that their hate and their spite is on their own heads, and speaks nothing of who a conservative is.

 

[SolomonVII]

I am sure that the vast majority of judges are ethical jurists. I am just as sure that there are some corrupt judges, probably not many, but they exist.

So then, you are in basic agreement with my statement that no, as a general rule, judges do not destroy people's lives all the time.

 

[No Swansong]

So then, you are in basic agreement with my statement that no, as a general rule, judges do not destroy people's lives all the time.

Friend you didn't write "as a general rule." You made a positive statement without qualification or even implying a qualification.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Uh, no Judges do not destroy people's lives.
They make judgments on point of law, put rapists away, and filter the innocent from the guilty.

Man's justice is for those who can afford to pay for it. Even the bail money alone is more then some people can come up with. I have known people that will sit in jail because they can not come up with as little as $160 in bail money. Often the wife or girlfriend has to come up with the money to get the boyfriend or husband out of jail. Now we have cities that have private for profit jails. So they try to put as much money in their pocket as they can and give as little to the prisoners as they can get away with. There was a sheriff in Phonex Arizona that use to go on TV and brag about how he spent more money to feed the dogs then he would spend on the prisoners.

God is a God of absolute Justice. With man you can not expect much. God has all the answers and all the solutions. With man not so much. Man has lots of problems they can not solve and lots of questions they can not answer. The whole point is for us to see our need for God and how inadequate man is to deal with and solve his own problems in life.

 

[SolomonVII]

Well, if the comparison is between man and God, I agree that God’s is the better choice.
Until the Second Coming, our choice is between judges and lynching mobs.
Or anarchy.
The axiom is not to make the perfect the enemy of the good, or in this case God the enemy of the modicum of justice that has arisen under the struggles of ordinary Christians trying to do the right thing.

 

[SolomonVII]

Friend you didn't write "as a general rule." You made a positive statement without qualification or even implying a qualification.

I expect that the average reader has enough common sense to understand that Everyone knows that judges are not all absolutely perfect. There area gazillion qualifications that I did not make beside that.
I expect of the average reade the common sense involved in understanding that corruption exists. However ina world filled with rapists and muderers and hate, what is ludicrous to believe is that it is judges that ruin lives.
The sky is blue observations are boring qualifications to discuss.
Bye.

 

[Kentonio]

American conservatives almost universally regard Kavanaugh's animated testimony as a watershed moment. We have all seen our conservative ideas being maligned as bigotry, as racism and sexism and as evil, just like Kavanagh had been smeared from long before the sexual allegations came up. He spoke for all conservatives in his firing back with all barrels against the smears and the mindless hatred of the Democratic left. He said what we all felt.
Thoroughly decent people who have thusly been maligned by Democratic lies from the Senate, such as Mitt Romney having the snivelling Harry Reid as someone who does not pay taxes, ended up coming off as weak for bending over and taking, much like Bush took it over and over again without saying anything.

Trump does not take it like that, but people trying to leave decent, conservative lives really do not find their voice in Trump, a man who boasts of his indecency.

But Kavanaugh spoke for conservatives everywhere in his scathing review of leftist politics and the scurrilous low life who have been assassinating his character from the safety of their Senate chairs. He called them out for the slimy, immoral greaseballs that they so shamelessly show themselves to be, time and time and time again.
Win or lose, this was an historic moment for conservatives. He spoke for himself well, and in doing so, he spoke for all of us.
Of course, those on the left will disagree. But just because nobody likes to be exposed as the low life that they are, it does not make it any less true.

Jews sometimes speak of their Matza moment. In the long history of European maligning of Jewish character, it was often very easy for a Jew not of the dominant country to begin to believe the slurs being made against his kind. But when the slurs came to evolve kidnapping and bleeding out Christian children for blood to use in their matzas, it all became too preposterous.
Kavanagh being the leader of a rape gang is that kind of Matza moment.

Leftists loathe conservatives enough to say anything about us, without even caring if there is a smidgen of truth to the claim. We get that.
But the matza moment is recognizing that their hate and their spite is on their own heads, and speaks nothing of who a conservative is.

You should be careful whose wagon you hitch your horses to. This isn’t a general slur being made against conservatives, these are specific accusations being made against an individual and there’s some circumstantial evidence to support some of the claims. You don’t want to end up with egg on your face if he turns out to be guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

 

[TLK Valentine]

God is a God of absolute Justice. With man you can not expect much. God has all the answers and all the solutions. With man not so much. Man has lots of problems they can not solve and lots of questions they can not answer. The whole point is for us to see our need for God and how inadequate man is to deal with and solve his own problems in life.

Fine -- let's withdraw Kavanaugh and nominate God for SCOTUS.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Fine -- let's withdraw Kavanaugh and nominate God for SCOTUS.

That would be to easy to let God do it. The real miracle is that God can do a work in and though people. Even He can do an amazing work in you. Yet if you do not want Him then you have the ability to reject Him. Because we have free will. He is there when people want and need Him, but he leaves them alone if they want to try to do it without His help.

So does God need us to get the job done? No, but it brings Him honor and glory that He is able to work though us to get the job done. Even people like Kavanaugh can be used by God. That should give us all hope, because I am sure the people complaining about him have done worse things then he has. It is amazing how quick people are to accuse others when they are even worse sinners then the people they accuse.

 

[joshua 1 9]

specific accusations being made against an individual

Yep sounds like a divorce. They always make it look like it is the other persons fault. She is so convinced that he is the one to blame that she even passed a lie detector test. There is a reason why this would never stand up in a court of law.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Until the Second Coming, our choice is between judges and lynching mobs.

That is the problem. The obstructionists are voting for the lynch mob. They tried to lynch Clarence Thomas but in the end they came to their senses. Thomas only crime was crude talk that Hill found to be offensive and perhaps suggestive. He almost got lynched and he never touched her or layed a finger on her. Now they are bound and determined to lynch Kavanaugh and hang him high from the nearest tree so everyone can see. As a warning to anyone that would dare to tear apart their agenda or stand in the way of their cause.

As for Dr Ford herself. She is a trained professional making a million dollars an hour. For a million dollar an hour people can present a pretty good testimony. Even Trump himself was impressed with her.

Kavanaugh is a Judges Judge because he gives people a fair trial. It is to bad that people are not willing to give him the same consideration he gives others. He is a moderate, and they are going to get a moderate no matter what. The days of the liberal court are gone, and they need to accept that. No matter how much they want to cry about it and thrown temper tantrums.

IF they want this to be the main issue for midterms - what sort of an impact is that going to have? Are we going to have a red tide as some people are predicting? If people want to make the supreme court their litmus test that is fine.

 

[TLK Valentine]

That would be to easy to let God do it. The real miracle is that God can do a work in and though people. Even He can do an amazing work in you. Yet if you do not want Him then you have the ability to reject Him. Because we have free will. He is there when people want and need Him, but he leaves them alone if they want to try to do it without His help.

So does God need us to get the job done? No, but it brings Him honor and glory that He is able to work though us to get the job done. Even people like Kavanaugh can be used by God. That should give us all hope, because I am sure the people complaining about him have done worse things then he has. It is amazing how quick people are to accuse others when they are even worse sinners then the people they accuse.

Sounds like we need to dismantle our entire justice system rather than hold Kavanaugh accountable.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Sounds like we need to dismantle our entire justice system rather than hold Kavanaugh accountable.

It does not matter. They are going to appoint a moderate to the Supreme court IF the liberals are lucky. Because Trump can nominate the most Conservative person he can find if he wants. Maybe he should go find the most conservative women judge and see what people do with her. That should make for some pretty good prime time TV.

No one is predicting a blue tide for mid terms because chances are it is going to be a red tide. If a red tide is what they want then this is exactly what they should be doing. With God He causes all things to work out for the best and He always accomplishes His purpose. His Word does not ever return to Him Void.

 

[Aldebaran]

Sounds like we need to dismantle our entire justice system rather than hold Kavanaugh accountable.

Accountable for doing what? What has he been proven to have done that he needs to be held accountable for?

 

[TLK Valentine]

It does not matter. They are going to appoint a moderate to the Supreme court IF the liberals are lucky. Because Trump can nominate the most Conservative person he can find if he wants. Maybe he should go find the most conservative women judge and see what people do with her. That should make for some pretty good prime time TV.

Donald can nominate whoever he wants, but the Senate has to approve them.

And when the Democrats take the Senate (which might happen in November, but almost certainly will happen at some point in Donald's reign), they'll have all the powers the GOP gave themselves...

No one is predicting a blue tide for mid terms because chances are it is going to be a red tide. If a red tide is what they want then this is exactly what they should be doing.

Red tide -- I couldn't agree more.

With God He causes all things to work out for the best and He always accomplishes His purpose. His Word does not ever return to Him Void.

As God is not a part of the Executive, Legislative, or Judicial branch, they don't have to listen to anything He has to say.

 

[Aldebaran]

Donald can nominate whoever he wants, but the Senate has to approve them.

And when the Democrats take the Senate (which might happen in November, but almost certainly will happen at some point in Donald's reign), they'll have all the powers the GOP gave themselves...

And which party used the "nuclear option" concerning the confirmation of SCOTUS nominees, which now means the Republicans get to use it at the current time?

 

[FreeinChrist]

And which party used the "nuclear option" concerning the confirmation of SCOTUS nominees, which now means the Republicans get to use it at the current time?

The Republicans did.

The Dems used the "nuclear option" to overcome Republican obstructionism of federal judges and cabinet members, not SCOTUS. It was something the Republicans threatened back in 2003 but when they increased their numbers in 2004, they didn't do it. Reid pulled the trigger in a limited way (federal judges and cabinet members) in 2013.

It was the Republicans who extended it to SCOTUS picks once Trump was elected.