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Sex: Entering into this physical union.....

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Autumnleaf said:
It makes all the difference to my sense of well being throughout the day. I don't feel like a fat slug all day when I exercise.

Right you are about sex being a great exercise! Although if a man is too tired for it I don't know of a cure except maybe putting caffeine in his food to pep him up.;)
I'm sorry if it sounded like I thought sex was the solution:)

I think she should start him off by trying to get him to go on walks after dinner every nite and go from there.
Also, if he's mentally tired all the time, excercise will help that. After a good workout nothing can get me down. :thumbsup:
 
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MERCY@GRACE said:
He could also have low levels testoserone.

I don't think it's anything like that. I think it's directly related to him tiring himself out with work, because when he's on vacation from work, he wants to do it all the time! :thumbsup: (I realize I should have mentioned that fact before, because it's an important detail.)

Of course, when he's on vacation, he also gets a lot more exercise, because we go places and do a lot of walking and stuff.
 
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ILoveYeshua said:
Well, men would like to have, "regular, satisfying sexual intercourse". If you consider it a need, try fasting. Then you'll know what "need" is, when you start feeling those hunger pangs. =) Just a side note anyway.



Jesus didn't have sex and he wasn't frustrated. =) but yes, anyway. sometimes we need to satisfy that frustration with something higher than sex, like, say, worshipping the Father? for those of you frustrated about sex, how much time do you spend a day or even a week worshipping? an hour? more? less? i'd say i spend less, and i feel bad about that. but i've been doing more recently. its satisfying on a level sex can't reach.

in fact, worship is one of the most satisfying experiences a man can engage in. its humbling, grateful, and glorious. anyone can do it, just get on your knees! we always seem to expect our women on their knees ;), but men should get on their knees too... =)



i'm just saying its niiiiiiice =) and if once is good, twice is better. eh?



was that a real sentence? never mind. i dont want to even think about soldiers masturbating. darn it. sigh



if we worshipped more, we'd wack it less. its like our very own asherah pole. but really, isnt it silly?

if youve ever watched yourself in the mirror while wacking it, you know you look ridiculously silly. i know i do!


so i stopped. i figure, between God watching me, and the multitude of angels watching me, and there are even demons watching, though they are all invisible, they are still watching. i'd rather spend my time praising Christ than wacking it. but sex was ordained by God as something good for a husband and wife, and it should be engaged in as frequently as possible. the very opportunity to do that act is a gift, and its a gift that should be given often. sex is fun. masturbation is something to do to pass the time. worship is best of all though. next time you're about to wack it, stop, and go worship instead. God'll appreciate it, what do you think?



deadly sperm buildup? i've heard that theory too. heh, i dont buy it, but ive heard of it. its been a while since i've had sex, and i feel fine. maybe some males are gifted with a release valve. yknow sperm gets absorbed back into the body if it doesnt get used right?

i'm enjoying this thread =) its helping me to think through some of these issues. back in august i got dumped from a 6y relationship. so thats all a little fresh in my mind. it was like i was married, so thats why i feel ok posting here even tho im currently single.



what would you say if you did?



yes, just like they're real people with real feelings that can get hurt. so please, if you wouldn't want someone saying _____ to you, don't say _____ to them. love one another as Christ has loved you. the truth is gentle, not brutal.

forgive my bluntness and hypocrisy. its late, 150am, and im tired. tomorrow will be better... this is a very interesting topic tho and i hope everyone sticks around til we come to some reasonable conclusion



guys? learn? hehe. only if we can keep our hands off ourselves for a few minutes.



with that, i'd have to agree. when yer gettin laid on a regular basis, thats one less thing you have to worry about and other things do seem easier. you feel like you can conquer the rest of your life if you can feel like a conquerer in the bedroom. i only use that expression loosely. oh i also think that if yer married, you shouldnt be wackin it. it just aint fair to her, especially if she's beggin you for sex.



would you really be? sorry, never mind. its late, i should stop writing now before i say anything else stupid =) gnite all, love in Christ.


ROFLMBO!!!!!!!

Bro, I don't know if you were trying to be funny or serious or insane, but dang! You had me howling!!!!
 
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"Sex: Entering into this physical union.....



......is the best way a woman can encourage her husband."


** Not necessarily true. If the woman is a lousy sex partner and unwilling to get better, having sex isn't too encouraging. That's when you have to start faking [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] so you don't hurt her feelings. I hated that.
 
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I've read through part of this thread, and can agree with some of the views. But I have to say, Argent, that you tend to simplify men's needs a bit, don't you think.
Argent said:
...My point here, in this thread, is that for a man, sex is a profoundly powerful physical need. Its emotional component, which does indeed exist for men, is secondary. Men need to have regular, satisfying sexual intercourse. He needs to have the physical need to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] (can I say that here?:eek: ) satisfied on a regualr basis, in order to feel at his best physically, emotionally, spiritually and mentally.

It sounds like you are saying that men's sexual needs are down to a primitive need, like scratching, and if they don't get their itch scratched, then they are not happy spiritually (?) and mentally. I think relationships and life can be more complicated than that; I think there are men out there who may "get" a lot of sex (and I think it's sad to think of those terms being used so frequently, like women "giving" and men "getting" ), but they may not be happy spiritually or mentally. They might just be having "medication" sex to alleviate their unhappiness - one poster mentioned that he was faking [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] with his wife.

Look at the men who don't have this need satisfied. They are frustrated. We use that word a lot these days because we live in a frustrating world, but think about what it really means. It's the psychological state we find our selves in when we need something essential to our well-being and that need isn't being met. That psychological state of frustration is very uncomfortable.

I agree that lack of regular sex can be frustrating for BOTH a man and a woman. But I don't think it is the end-all and be-all of psychological frustration. Living in stressful world, wrapped up in consumeristic type of society, financial worries, worries about the state of country, employment, spiritual numbness and lack of connectivity to each other as human beings and family is more of a culprit. With all that, it's tougher to "get it"!

The general cultural belief that men are built to be horn-dogs and women basically tolerate it, "close one's eyes and do it for England" (as Victorian mothers used to coach their daughters as brides to be) is rooted in ancient traditional belief, and frankly it's hogwash. Women were not thought to have real sexual desires, and if they did, they were "bad women". Did you know that before battery-powered massagers became popular, that physicians in the 1900's used electric massagers to "relieve" women of "hysteria and psychological depression"? And before that, from Roman times to before the Industrial Revolution, well to do women were manually relieved of "hysteria" by physicians or midwives. Women were later told by Freudians that if they did not climax with traditional intercourse with their husbands, that they were immature or had phallus envy. Even though much of this has changed with the sexual revolution, there still is a belief amongst strict traditionalists that married women, especially if they are mothers, are too pure for lustful shenanigans.

If some wives are able to let go of their inhibitions cultivated from years of training that sex is bad, and only bad women enjoy lots of variety (and some men need to let go of this idea too, that women are either holy mothers or prostitutes, and oh, my wife wouldn't want that!), and if couples communicated more openly, I am surely there would be fewer cases of harmful sperm buildup.
 
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christalee4 said:
I've read through part of this thread, and can agree with some of the views. But I have to say, Argent, that you tend to simplify men's needs a bit, don't you think.


It sounds like you are saying that men's sexual needs are down to a primitive need, like scratching, and if they don't get their itch scratched, then they are not happy spiritually (?) and mentally. I think relationships and life can be more complicated than that; I think there are men out there who may "get" a lot of sex (and I think it's sad to think of those terms being used so frequently, like women "giving" and men "getting" ), but they may not be happy spiritually or mentally. They might just be having "medication" sex to alleviate their unhappiness - one poster mentioned that he was faking [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] with his wife.



I agree that lack of regular sex can be frustrating for BOTH a man and a woman. But I don't think it is the end-all and be-all of psychological frustration. Living in stressful world, wrapped up in consumeristic type of society, financial worries, worries about the state of country, employment, spiritual numbness and lack of connectivity to each other as human beings and family is more of a culprit. With all that, it's tougher to "get it"!

The general cultural belief that men are built to be horn-dogs and women basically tolerate it, "close one's eyes and do it for England" (as Victorian mothers used to coach their daughters as brides to be) is rooted in ancient traditional belief, and frankly it's hogwash. Women were not thought to have real sexual desires, and if they did, they were "bad women". Did you know that before battery-powered massagers became popular, that physicians in the 1900's used electric massagers to "relieve" women of "hysteria and psychological depression"? And before that, from Roman times to before the Industrial Revolution, well to do women were manually relieved of "hysteria" by physicians or midwives. Women were later told by Freudians that if they did not climax with traditional intercourse with their husbands, that they were immature or had phallus envy. Even though much of this has changed with the sexual revolution, there still is a belief amongst strict traditionalists that married women, especially if they are mothers, are too pure for lustful shenanigans.

If some wives are able to let go of their inhibitions cultivated from years of training that sex is bad, and only bad women enjoy lots of variety (and some men need to let go of this idea too, that women are either holy mothers or prostitutes, and oh, my wife wouldn't want that!), and if couples communicated more openly, I am surely there would be fewer cases of harmful sperm buildup.

AMEN!

DITTO!

KUDOS!

and that last part was very very funny!:thumbsup: :)
 
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Hold the phone!!!! Argent, you clearly have done your homework. I'm going to guess you read a lot of books on marriage, yes? Maybe you even observe couples regularly and take mental notes? If so, I can identify with that. I started reading marriage books ( a few a year) when I was twelve. However, there is just no way I would have the audacity to tell a married man or woman what is best for their marriage..especially their sex life!!!! At first I was thinking, "Okay, he is just generalizing things to his marriage" and then I kept reading. I can't' believe you have started this thread as a single guy. Unbelievable. I'm dumbfounded by your nerve.
 
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Beth - Argent is speaking from experience with a former marriage. Hence, he feels that he's qualified to speak about this.

PS. Argent - I forgot to tell you that my hubby agrees with my comments on having sex and rewarding/encouraging/showing him love. And he's NOT a yes man... he's a stubborn, very honest guy who refuses to tell a white lie. Annoying sometimes, but useful when I'm asking about such things! :D
 
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I've thought a fair bit about a point I've been wanting to make. I decided to make it. Guys (and gals with the same problem)... I can understand where you're coming from when you put a big emphasis on sex. But when I see it claimed as a reward or encouragement... I think you're aiming too low. Regular sex is important in a marriage. But if that's all you've got, it's not much of a marriage.
 
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Argent said:
My point here, in this thread, is that for a man, sex is a profoundly powerful physical need. Its emotional component, which does indeed exist for men, is secondary. Men need to have regular, satisfying sexual intercourse. He needs to have the physical need to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] (can I say that here?:eek: ) satisfied on a regualr basis, in order to feel at his best physically, emotionally, spiritually and mentally.
I also have to disagree with this from in my experience. I was fine even though the physical [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] was not happening. Before I was married I was focusing on all the great things I could do to give glory to God. I found that the more important need that needed to be met so I would be fine was the spiritual need. When I have been very focused on God nothing could get me down (even though there were problems) but when I lose my focus then other problems would get be down.

Argent said:
Look at the men who don't have this need satisfied. They are frustrated. We use that word a lot these days because we live in a frustrating world, but think about what it really means. It's the psychological state we find our selves in when we need something essential to our well-being and that need isn't being met. That psychological state of frustration is very uncomfortable.
There are plenty of people who are having their sexual needs met but are very frustrated which may back up your viewpoint that frustration comes from not having our needs met but it certainly does not back up the viewpoint that sex is essential to have our needs met. That may be true for you and others but I don't believe you have provided any evidence that proves that it is essential to all men.
 
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His different level of sexual activity when on holiday, and his other physical contacts with you suggest his sexual interest is pretty normal, but his physical tiredness interferes with his willingness. That can be a real problem for either sex. It needs talking about and finding some workaround. But if he is tired and sex at for bedtimes only that will limit what happens. A guy can just be too tired physically to be bothered, and when that is the case, he won't get an erection very easily. Therefore, no sex.

Talk, experiment and ask God to help both of you to fulfill your marriage relationship in a mutually satisfying way. Get sex out of the bedroom. Make it much more than that.

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NicelyAged said:
** Not necessarily true. If the woman is a lousy sex partner and unwilling to get better, having sex isn't too encouraging. That's when you have to start faking [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] so you don't hurt her feelings. I hated that.

:eek: :scratch:
 
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How important is sex? Very! Just ask the guy who ISN'T getting any and he'll tell you!
:scratch: Are you replying to anyone, or just making a general comment? I can kind of agree, I mean if I wasn't getting sex, it'd seem a lot more important to me, too :) But I didn't think this thread was really about 'is sex important and can it be dispensed with' ... more 'sex is the best way to encourage/reward a man'?
 
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cnlisa said:
I think sex is one of MANY ways to encourage my husband.

I agree. I never said it was the only way.

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Sex usally makes a man feeled loved by his wife, which is encouraging.

This is also true.

cnlisa said:
But there are other ways to show encouragement that I think are equally as important.
Lisa

I'm curious if this is your opinion based on experience, or was this conveyed to you by your husband?
 
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