Sell all that you have, give to the poor, and follow me

LostMarbels said:

Your on this tangent that not only doesn't fit your argument, it makes no logical sense.

Nothing subjective. Give me facts. Support your argument. Don't try to think you're going to get me to change my stance by constantly repeating the same error over, and over, and over, and over.............

You sir are wrong. Your arguement is flawed. here is why:

(Mar 10:19-27) Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother. And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth. Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me. And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions. And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God! It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved? And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

Sell all you have, pick up your cross and follow me. Jesus just asked him to be a disciple. Just like when he said:
Mar 1:17 And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.
Mar 1:18 And straightway they forsook their nets, and followed him.

Ok look at Mark 1:18: And straightway they forsook their nets, and followed him. They left all their material wealth behind, immediately, because Jesus was of more value to them. Not so for the other guy.

And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions. See? This guy was mad wealthy, and he did not count Christ worthy of all his worldly possessions. So he decide to keep his wealth over his "Master".

Now... I know you're going to think this is a blanket statement for all believers, but it isn't. This is not a commandment. Jesus exposed the greed in this mans heart. This was a gut check. This also doesn't mean the man died in sin either. All of that believe are convicted by God about things in our lives He want us to deal with. Jesus even goes on to say that with God, even a man with such greed can be saved.




I'm not a high and mighty person. I admit my faults. I am no different than you. The only difference is I confess Jesus Christ a Lord.

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Soyeong said:

No, we shouldn't sell all we have, yes, we should give money to the poor, do good works, and preach the Gospel, yes, I want to make Jesus proud, and yes, I want to do it regardless of whether there is a reward in heaven.

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LostMarbels said:

Core issues? You don't even know what you are talking about.

You're an atheist... what do you know about my God? You sir are wrong and your argument is nothing.

You have been told many times, by many Christians your argument is in error. You are not a christian. You do not understand our God or his word. You have proven nothing to those of us that know better. You have failed.

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LostMarbels said:

Thank you. This lets me know I am truly putting up a fight. When the unsaved have to resort to personal attacks I know they have no real answer, only the hope they can shut me down.

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Root of Jesse said:

Owning luxury items isn't the issue, letting them rule your life is the issue. The point Jesus was making is that everything you have is God's, that God allows you to use His abundance, for you to take some and use the rest to do good.
When you die, God will ask you about those thousands of children that died of hunger while you were alive. You might answer that they weren't YOUR children, you might answer that you did all you could (maybe true or not), you might answer that you didn't see them. God will reward you accordingly. To the first answer, he'll say "Yeah, but they were mine." and depending on His mercy might allow you into His mercy. If you did all you could, you will enter. If you tried, and succeeded some, you may not enter immediately. If you're a goat, you will not enter.
As for sin, sin is sin, and there is always opportunity to do good, and we all will fail at some of those opportunities. Personally I make every attempt to not judge others because of their sins, whether those you mention, or those you didn't mention. God is merciful and will give each person what he loves the most.

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rjs330 said:

Why did you change the subject? I thought the subject was should Christians sell all their stuff and give it away.

Here is are some questions
What was the rich,man's first question and what was Jesus first answer?

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rjs330 said:

I did I just didn't read every single post. I didn't lob anything. I just asked a question. It seemed to you kind of moved off the,subject of the OP and I,wondered,why.

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