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Please remember that this is in Christian Advice. Christian Advice is a non-debate forum. When you are in this forum, you must address the OP specifically and not debate or discuss it with the other posters.
 
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I know that the issue of baptism is a very divided one, so I will present the issue as I see it: I see baptism as not a necessity but simply a declaration of putting off the old life and stepping into a new one. Please don't attempt to change my views or my opinions on baptism. That's not what this is for. So don't reply if you have a differing opinion on the issue.

I was baptized when I was 11. If I'm being honest, I only did it because
1) I knew growing up that it was something that should happen but didn't really grasp the reason why
2) my family was asking why I hadn't done it yet

So after my baptism, my faith wasn't all that strong. And I've gone through a lot since then. Lots of ups and downs and backsliding. I am now very solid in how I feel about my faith and I'm ready to move forward and put the past behind me. So I've been considering getting baptized again.

I know it isn't necessary. God recognizes my first confession of faith and knows that I'm devoted to following Him. However, since baptism feels like a symbolic thing, I feel like I need the symbolic action of putting my sin to death and rising again in Christ.

Is this a good idea? Is there any reason I shouldn't do it?

Why do you see baptism as unneceessary, since Jesus commanded it to be done?
 
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if you feel that God is calling you to get baptized DO IT. I can not stress that enough. if it is the Holy Spirit that is calling you, do it. I have interesting baptism beliefs, but I am sure we can all agree that obedience is a key part of FOLLOWING Jesus. check your heart. only you and God know if your heart was right when you first got baptized. if you are saved now, and weren't then, then I would say go ahead and get baptized.
 
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I know that a second baptism would make a lot more sense for someone like me who was baptized as a baby in the Catholic Church. It was at a time when I did not even know about my faith and I did not even chose to be baptized as a Catholic.
 
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I know that the issue of baptism is a very divided one, so I will present the issue as I see it: I see baptism as not a necessity but simply a declaration of putting off the old life and stepping into a new one. Please don't attempt to change my views or my opinions on baptism. That's not what this is for. So don't reply if you have a differing opinion on the issue.

I was baptized when I was 11. If I'm being honest, I only did it because
1) I knew growing up that it was something that should happen but didn't really grasp the reason why
2) my family was asking why I hadn't done it yet

So after my baptism, my faith wasn't all that strong. And I've gone through a lot since then. Lots of ups and downs and backsliding. I am now very solid in how I feel about my faith and I'm ready to move forward and put the past behind me. So I've been considering getting baptized again.

I know it isn't necessary. God recognizes my first confession of faith and knows that I'm devoted to following Him. However, since baptism feels like a symbolic thing, I feel like I need the symbolic action of putting my sin to death and rising again in Christ.

Is this a good idea? Is there any reason I shouldn't do it?
Since the Trinitarian baptism brings a soul into the body of Jesus Christ and endows us with God's Holy Spirit, rebaptizing doesn't change what you already have received but I certainly understand your need to have a ceremony where you can express your desire to give yourself to God now that you are more mature. Maybe instead of rebaptizing you can ask your minister about renewing your baptismal vows.
 
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If the Spirit is urging you to be baptized, (and it seems to be) you cannot go wrong. No one fully understands this type of issue. As someone has already suggested, it is between you and God, what someone else thinks does not count. We all "work out our own salvation with fear and trembling"Php. 2:12
 
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It’s impossible not to enter into a theological debate when talking about baptism. However, whatever you believe about it, I would encourage you to consider the following:

1. Baptism into the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit is not instituted by man, but by Christ.

2. Baptism is not a work that we do, but something God works. In other words, it’s not a promise we make to God, but rather a promise God makes to us. What promise could we possibly offer God? We can then take comfort in that God is faithful and certainly keeps His promises, and this very much includes the promise He made through baptism. As it’s written: “Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.”

The point is, the faith and baptism God has already worked in your life, effected by the Holy Spirit, is in the hands of the Lord, and so there is no need for doubt, but be confident in His love and grace from all eternity. :)
 
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I know that the issue of baptism is a very divided one, so I will present the issue as I see it: I see baptism as not a necessity but simply a declaration of putting off the old life and stepping into a new one. Please don't attempt to change my views or my opinions on baptism. That's not what this is for. So don't reply if you have a differing opinion on the issue.

I was baptized when I was 11. If I'm being honest, I only did it because
1) I knew growing up that it was something that should happen but didn't really grasp the reason why
2) my family was asking why I hadn't done it yet

So after my baptism, my faith wasn't all that strong. And I've gone through a lot since then. Lots of ups and downs and backsliding. I am now very solid in how I feel about my faith and I'm ready to move forward and put the past behind me. So I've been considering getting baptized again.

I know it isn't necessary. God recognizes my first confession of faith and knows that I'm devoted to following Him. However, since baptism feels like a symbolic thing, I feel like I need the symbolic action of putting my sin to death and rising again in Christ.

Is this a good idea? Is there any reason I shouldn't do it?
baptism points to the death of the old and rising in a new life in Christ. This is symbolic but it does point to a spiritual change as well and ultimately it points to a physical change where one day the old will be put to death and be resurrected with new incorruptible bodies.

Baptism is a process and it represents the beginning of that process, not the end because even though we are physically buried and rise up our old life still clings on and we go through constant repeated change and in a sense have constant mini-deaths and resurrections.

Here's a concrete example, I have young children but they are no longer little babies. I remember when I could hold them in my arms and rock them to sleep but even though they are the same people that part of them is gone and I will never be able to hold them the same way, they, in fact, don't even like it anyone more. In a sense, this is a mini-death of both myself and my kids as what is old is gone and replaced with what is new. They need to grow bigger and I need to let them in order to be healthy and this change is needed for this is happening.

Much is the same with the spiritual as we have aspects of our Christian living that need to change in order for us to grow. We do these by putting them to death and rising up in new life and we do this all the time in order to grow. Death of the old and resurrection of the new can be a daily prayer. We, however, don't need to celebrate each one of these changes with a public confession of baptism, the first baptism is retroactively applied.

The disciples are a good example, they first responded to a call of simply "follow me" and early on were baptized, yet demonstrated a gross misunderstanding of the gospel even to the point of explicit rejection of Christ. After a short while through Acts did they get to a point where they would look back and realize when they got baptized they had no idea what it meant? Did they seek another baptism to reflect their current belief? Getting new revelation is a good thing, and putting the old to death and being resurrected in the new is a good thing. Never stop doing this but there is no need to get baptized at every milestone of Christian living.
 
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I know that the issue of baptism is a very divided one, so I will present the issue as I see it: I see baptism as not a necessity but simply a declaration of putting off the old life and stepping into a new one. Please don't attempt to change my views or my opinions on baptism. That's not what this is for. So don't reply if you have a differing opinion on the issue.

I was baptized when I was 11. If I'm being honest, I only did it because
1) I knew growing up that it was something that should happen but didn't really grasp the reason why
2) my family was asking why I hadn't done it yet

So after my baptism, my faith wasn't all that strong. And I've gone through a lot since then. Lots of ups and downs and backsliding. I am now very solid in how I feel about my faith and I'm ready to move forward and put the past behind me. So I've been considering getting baptized again.

I know it isn't necessary. God recognizes my first confession of faith and knows that I'm devoted to following Him. However, since baptism feels like a symbolic thing, I feel like I need the symbolic action of putting my sin to death and rising again in Christ.

Is this a good idea? Is there any reason I shouldn't do it?
I encourage you to be baptized. As an adult you are very different than at age 11. Your faith is your own now. I do believe that many children who get baptized do so only because they are under their parents authority and mainly whether they realize it or not, get baptized because it makes their parent's very proud, rather than truly realize at that age that they are dead in their sins. When we come to grips with how sinful we are and need a savior, that is when we are saved, we are so thankful to the Lord, that we will be willing to make a public profession and die to ourselves and take up the cross and follow Christ. May God bless you as you grow in the Lord!
 
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I know that the issue of baptism is a very divided one, so I will present the issue as I see it: I see baptism as not a necessity but simply a declaration of putting off the old life and stepping into a new one. Please don't attempt to change my views or my opinions on baptism. That's not what this is for. So don't reply if you have a differing opinion on the issue.

I was baptized when I was 11. If I'm being honest, I only did it because
1) I knew growing up that it was something that should happen but didn't really grasp the reason why
2) my family was asking why I hadn't done it yet

So after my baptism, my faith wasn't all that strong. And I've gone through a lot since then. Lots of ups and downs and backsliding. I am now very solid in how I feel about my faith and I'm ready to move forward and put the past behind me. So I've been considering getting baptized again.

I know it isn't necessary. God recognizes my first confession of faith and knows that I'm devoted to following Him. However, since baptism feels like a symbolic thing, I feel like I need the symbolic action of putting my sin to death and rising again in Christ.

Is this a good idea? Is there any reason I shouldn't do it?

Baptism is a necessity, if only because it is commanded in Scripture. It doesn't save a person, of course, but it is very important in what it signifies (Romans 6) and in linking faith with obedience to the command of God (see James 2).

I appreciate that you want baptism to reflect a genuine and serious intent to walk with God. To be baptized again, though, would be to declare your first baptism a sham, a ritual that, for you, signified nothing real. If this is what you believe, then, by all means, be baptized again. If, though, you think you were actually born-again at the time of your first baptism (though, not by it), it does violence to this fact - which baptism symbolizes - to be baptized again.

As an aside: Can I encourage you to re-frame how you are thinking about your relationship with God? You use the word "feel" frequently in your post which suggests that feelings may be a primary basis upon which you are walking with God. If this is so, may I urge you to forsake feeling(s) as any part of the ground upon which you stand as a disciple of Christ? The Christian believer is called to "walk by faith, not by sight" (2 Corinthians 5:7) which often means ignoring entirely what one might feel. A great example of this exists in the Old Testament (Numbers 13-14). God had brought His Chosen People, the Israelites, to the border of Canaan, promising to them that He had given the land into their hands to possess it. All they had to do was trust God and go into Canaan and take it. But, they spied out the land first and, discovering formidable inhabitants and powerful cities in it, they began to feel doubtful about their ability to conquer the land God had promised to them. In fact, as they talked about the giants in the land, they began to feel small, and were afraid, and soon began to wish they had never left the cruelty and bondage of slavery in Egypt! Can you imagine? What foolishness! But this is what happens when a person walking with God makes what they feel rather than what God has said the basis for their walk with Him. In the end, these doubting Israelites never did enter into the Promised Land but wandered in the wilderness 'til they died (except for faithful Joshua and Caleb).

A Christian who lets their feelings lead them in their walk with God is headed for the wilderness rather than the spiritual Promised Land that is theirs in Christ. It is what God has said to us in His word that is to anchor us in our life as believers not what our feelings about what He has said may be.
 
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I know that the issue of baptism is a very divided one, so I will present the issue as I see it: I see baptism as not a necessity but simply a declaration of putting off the old life and stepping into a new one. Please don't attempt to change my views or my opinions on baptism. That's not what this is for. So don't reply if you have a differing opinion on the issue.

I was baptized when I was 11. If I'm being honest, I only did it because
1) I knew growing up that it was something that should happen but didn't really grasp the reason why
2) my family was asking why I hadn't done it yet

So after my baptism, my faith wasn't all that strong. And I've gone through a lot since then. Lots of ups and downs and backsliding. I am now very solid in how I feel about my faith and I'm ready to move forward and put the past behind me. So I've been considering getting baptized again.

I know it isn't necessary. God recognizes my first confession of faith and knows that I'm devoted to following Him. However, since baptism feels like a symbolic thing, I feel like I need the symbolic action of putting my sin to death and rising again in Christ.

Is this a good idea? Is there any reason I shouldn't do it?

Yes, do it. I've been baptized 4 times, but only the last one do I consider as in answer to a good conscience. The first three were for the wrong reasons and I don't even consider valid, so in essence that last one was my first, my one and only true baptism.
 
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I know that the issue of baptism is a very divided one, so I will present the issue as I see it: I see baptism as not a necessity but simply a declaration of putting off the old life and stepping into a new one. Please don't attempt to change my views or my opinions on baptism. That's not what this is for. So don't reply if you have a differing opinion on the issue.

I was baptized when I was 11. If I'm being honest, I only did it because
1) I knew growing up that it was something that should happen but didn't really grasp the reason why
2) my family was asking why I hadn't done it yet

So after my baptism, my faith wasn't all that strong. And I've gone through a lot since then. Lots of ups and downs and backsliding. I am now very solid in how I feel about my faith and I'm ready to move forward and put the past behind me. So I've been considering getting baptized again.

I know it isn't necessary. God recognizes my first confession of faith and knows that I'm devoted to following Him. However, since baptism feels like a symbolic thing, I feel like I need the symbolic action of putting my sin to death and rising again in Christ.

Is this a good idea? Is there any reason I shouldn't do it?

You are right it isn't necessary. But I can say from experience that it won't be meaningless either. And it is okay to do.
 
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I know that the issue of baptism is a very divided one, so I will present the issue as I see it: I see baptism as not a necessity but simply a declaration of putting off the old life and stepping into a new one. Please don't attempt to change my views or my opinions on baptism. That's not what this is for. So don't reply if you have a differing opinion on the issue.

I was baptized when I was 11. If I'm being honest, I only did it because
1) I knew growing up that it was something that should happen but didn't really grasp the reason why
2) my family was asking why I hadn't done it yet

So after my baptism, my faith wasn't all that strong. And I've gone through a lot since then. Lots of ups and downs and backsliding. I am now very solid in how I feel about my faith and I'm ready to move forward and put the past behind me. So I've been considering getting baptized again.

I know it isn't necessary. God recognizes my first confession of faith and knows that I'm devoted to following Him. However, since baptism feels like a symbolic thing, I feel like I need the symbolic action of putting my sin to death and rising again in Christ.

Is this a good idea? Is there any reason I shouldn't do it?

What you may be feeling is the Spirit leading you to be baptized as Christ Jesus commanded of those who profess faith in Him:

Matthew 28:19-20 (NIV)
19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.

If we claim to believe in Jesus then we will listen to and follow Him. This is the only faith that leads to Eternal Life...

John 10:27-28 (NIV)
27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.

So following Christ Jesus command to be baptized is essential; otherwise, why follow anything Christ commanded us to do?

John 14:21 (NIV)
21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”

John 14:23 (NIV)
23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

1 John 2:4 (NIV)
4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.
 
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What you may be feeling is the Spirit leading you to be baptized as Christ Jesus commanded of those who profess faith in Him:

Matthew 28:19-20 (NIV)
19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.

If we claim to believe in Jesus then we will listen to and follow Him. This is the only faith that leads to Eternal Life...

John 10:27-28 (NIV)
27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.

So following Christ Jesus command to be baptized is essential; otherwise, why follow anything Christ commanded us to do?

John 14:21 (NIV)
21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”

John 14:23 (NIV)
23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

1 John 2:4 (NIV)
4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.

A quote from Pastor John MacArthur...
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True believers will heed the Good Shepherd’s voice and reject the overtures of false shepherds. Submitting to the authority of Christ is fundamental to the life of faith: “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments” (John 14:15).

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