Scientists on the Moon

[Vergil10]

I believe the universe was created pristine and without "floaties;" but is now occupied by dust and debris due to a cosmic battle that took place some 6000 years ago between good and bad angels.

The asteroid belt is no exception.

i am speechless.

 

[VProud]

There's a misconception here.
It's not that scientists generally wouldn't trust God.
It's that many believe The Bible ISN'T what God says and that he does not exist.

 

[VProud]

I believe the universe was created pristine and without "floaties;" but is now occupied by dust and debris due to a cosmic battle that took place some 6000 years ago between good and bad angels.

The asteroid belt is no exception.

Why would they battle in physical form?
Why would God allow them to do that and wreck his universe?

Why am I entertaining that idea?
I mean, I don't think the word 'impossible' should exist, but...what?

 

[Vergil10]

AV do you think angels can be killed? i mean to have a war you'd have to think that, if not why did they wreck the place? did they get into verbal arguments with eachother?

 

[AV1611VET]

It's not that scientists generally wouldn't trust God.

Oh, please.

How many scientists want IN GOD WE TRUST and UNDER GOD removed from our currency and pledge respectively?

And when I use the word "scientist," I generally mean anyone who appeals to the scientific method to challenge a literal interpretation of the King James Bible, or One of Its seven Predecessors.

 

[VProud]

Oh, please.

How many scientists want IN GOD WE TRUST and UNDER GOD removed from our currency and pledge respectively?

And when I use the word "scientist," I generally mean anyone who appeals to the scientific method to challenge a literal interpretation of the King James Bible, or One of Its seven Predecessors.

The fact that they are scientists and the fact that they want that are probably unrelated but share a common source.

Well, no offense, but you are using the word 'Scientist' incorrectly.
A lot of scientists are interested in other things as opposed to refuting religion. You also get religious scientists.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why am I entertaining that idea?

While I don't believe in the Gap theory, as C. I. Scofield did, here is where I got that idea:

From the Scofield Reference Bible, footnotes to Genesis 1:

Jeremiah 4:23-26, Isaiah 24:1 and 45:18 clearly indicate that the earth had undergone a cataclysmic change as the result of a divine judgment. The face of the earth bears everywhere the marks of such a catastrophe. There are not wanting intimations which connect it with a previous testing and fall of angels.

 

[AV1611VET]

AV do you think angels can be killed?

No

i mean to have a war you'd have to think that, if not why did they wreck the place?

If you hated Leonardo da Vinci, how could you ruin him, if you lived next door to him?

 

[Vergil10]

No

If you hated Leonardo da Vinci, how could you ruin him, if you lived next door to him?

so the "war" didn't actually involve fighting, it was more akin to vandalism is what you are saying? ant fallen angels essentially eternal? you would think they would preserve what is essentially artwork to them.

 

[AV1611VET]

The fact that they are scientists and the fact that they want that are probably unrelated but share a common source.

You got that right.

I won't say what that common source is, but I do agree with you.

Well, no offense, but you are using the word 'Scientist' incorrectly.

That could very-well be, but I used to call them "slientists", then "Internet scientists", then "e-scientists"; and I finally got tired of trying to make a distinction between unbelieving scientists and believing scientists and just dropped the prefixes.

You can't tell the difference anyway, unless you look at their faith icon first.

A lot of scientists are interested in other things as opposed to refuting religion.

Again, I'm going to refrain from commenting here.

You also get religious scientists.

Yes indeed.

You'll find scientists who are Muslims, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc.

 

[AV1611VET]

so the "war" didn't actually involve fighting, it was more akin to vandalism is what you are saying?

I have no idea how the war took place.

We just see some of the results of it.

Such as craters, dust, and whatnot.

 

[Vergil10]

I have no idea how the war took place.

We just see some of the results of it.

Such as craters, dust, and whatnot.

"war" usually involves fighting, if neither side can be killed, well fighting would be pointless, you would think beings who are essentially eternal would find other things to do then petty vandalism.

 

[AV1611VET]

"war" usually involves fighting, if neither side can be killed, well fighting would be pointless, you would think beings who are essentially eternal would find other things to do then petty vandalism.

Do you have a better suggestion as to how this went down roughly 6000 years ago?

If not, I'll stick to my version of Mr. Scofield's interpretation.

 

[Vergil10]

Do you have a better suggestion as to how this went down roughly 6000 years ago?

If not, I'll stick to my version of Mr. Scofield's interpretation.

yes i do, except for that 6000 year part, are you familiar with the big bang theory?

 

[AV1611VET]

you familiar with the big bang theory?

Never heard of it.

Is this something new a scientist has drummed up recently?

 

[EternalDragon]

yes i do, except for that 6000 year part, are you familiar with the big bang theory?

You mean the model with three HUGE problems that make it fail?

 

[Vergil10]

Never heard of it.

Is this something new a scientist has drummed up recently?

Asteroid belt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Big Bang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
here for your reading convenience mister.

 

[Vergil10]

You mean the model with three HUGE problems that make it fail?

nope, you must be thinking of a different one

 

[EternalDragon]

nope, you must be thinking of a different one

They are right in your second link you posted. Have you even read your own links? Good grief.

 

[Vergil10]

They are right in your second link you posted. Have you even read your own links? Good grief.

and here is one for you Humour - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia