Scientists on the Moon

[TLK Valentine]

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Translation: Wild guess.

 

[Queller]

I have a suggestion for by brothers and sisters in Christ.

Until scientists settle once and for all how we got our moon (from about seven different hypotheses), let's go with what the Bible says.

Why should we? The moon popping into existence 6,000 years ago isn't remotely close to any of the scientific theories about how the earth got its moon.

Then, when scientists finally do settle on [what they think is] the right one; let's just say -- by faith -- they are wrong.

Agree or disagree?

Go with what God says, or what man says?

Go with what God did (as evidenced by the fingerprints He left behind in the universe) as opposed to how fallible men interpret the Bible.

 

[Queller]

Then why did a new one just recently come out?

Will last year do?

Did Venus Give Earth The Moon? Wild New Theory On Lunar History

I wish you would actually read the articles you link to.

This idea contrasts to the thinking of the vast majority of moon researchers, who believe that the Earth's moon formed some 4.5 billion years ago when a planet-size body slammed into nascent Earth at high speed.

However, the geochemical composition of the moon and Earth likely trips up this theory. Analyses of the lunar rocks brought back by NASA's Apollo moon landing missions have shown that the satellite has an isotopic composition very similar to that of Earth.

if both moon and Earth have very similar isotopes, it makes the capture theory difficult to maintain

Seriously, read the articles before you post them.

 

[Queller]

Why don't you let me handle the question put to me, instead of butting in with a wrong answer?

Why? That statement is the very essence of your OP.

 

[Queller]

My idea is that they occurred when the Rebellion took place between the good angels and the bad angels.

QV please:

I thought the bad angels were already fallen when God created the universe. Didn't you at one point claim that the material used to created the universe was the rubble left over from the war in heaven?

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, to say the gaps were created in situ would not be consistent with your idea that the asteroids are part of the rubble left over from the conflict of the angels.

Unless no gap formed at all.

Meaning they are two separate rings -- not one ring separated from another over a period of time.

Another famous bit of rubble pieces would be the rings of Saturn. Either they were created like that or they settled into that shape from a more chaotic situation. Clearly settling into that ring shape would take a lot of time, and yet they are also bits of rubble that qualify for your blanket assertion they have to be the left overs from the great war of the angels.

Which way do you vote for the rings of Saturn?

Again, the question I have is:

How did that rubble come about in the first place?

You say one thing, I another.

Perhaps we'll know when we get to Heaven?

 

[AV1611VET]

You did not have to be there if the evidence is on your side.

Hmm, whose side is supported by scientific evidence?

I wonder if that's what they tried to tell Frances Kelsey?

Ya think?

 

[AV1611VET]

Translation: Wild guess.

More like an educated guess.

But again -- if you think I'm wrong, by all means, feel free to give me a better one.

 

[AV1611VET]

The moon popping into existence 6,000 years ago isn't remotely close to any of the scientific theories about how the earth got its moon.

You got that right!

 

[AV1611VET]

I wish you would actually read the articles you link to.

This idea contrasts to the thinking of the vast majority of moon researchers, who believe that the Earth's moon formed some 4.5 billion years ago when a planet-size body slammed into nascent Earth at high speed.

However, the geochemical composition of the moon and Earth likely trips up this theory. Analyses of the lunar rocks brought back by NASA's Apollo moon landing missions have shown that the satellite has an isotopic composition very similar to that of Earth.

if both moon and Earth have very similar isotopes, it makes the capture theory difficult to maintain

Seriously, read the articles before you post them.

How about you read what I was responding to?

To wit:

Do you have any current (within the past 10 years) alternate suggestions?

And for the record, let me remind you what I said in the OP, since I chose my words carefully:

Until scientists settle once and for all how we got our moon ...

I don't think that's ever going to happen.

You can't even get scientists to settle 100% on the Pluto issue.

If it was settled once and for all, then why are new theories coming out?

 

[AV1611VET]

I thought the bad angels were already fallen when God created the universe.

No.

In fact, Lucifer rejoiced when the earth was created.

Didn't you at one point claim that the material used to created the universe was the rubble left over from the war in heaven?

That's part of the Gap theory, which I made plain I don't believe.

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[Queller]

You got that right!

So why should we accept it instead?

 

[Queller]

No.

In fact, Lucifer rejoiced when the earth was created.

That's part of the Gap theory, which I made plain I don't believe.

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So when did Lucifer and the angels fall from heaven? Don't forget to cite your source verses.

 

[AV1611VET]

So when did Lucifer and the angels fall from heaven? Don't forget to cite your source verses.

Somewhere between the Creation and the Fall, there was a rebellion.

Does it matter when exactly?

 

[TLK Valentine]

More like an educated guess.

An educated guess would require some sort of education, wouldn't it?

But again -- if you think I'm wrong, by all means, feel free to give me a better one.

Simple -- there was no "war of the angels." See how much better that is?

 

[AV1611VET]

An educated guess would require some sort of education, wouldn't it?

Some sort.

Simple -- there was no "war of the angels." See how much better that is?

Simple.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Some sort.

Simple.

Simple, better, and it fits the facts!

 

[AirPo]

Somewhere between the Creation and the Fall, there was a rebellion.

Does it matter when exactly?

Funny how some folks think it's a problem when scientists don't know "exactly" when, where, how, and why.

 

[Armoured]

So when did Lucifer and the angels fall from heaven? Don't forget to cite your source verses.

Perhaps they got knocked down by AV's flying clams?

 

[DerelictJunction]

NASA and other science-staffed organizations that have their hands in our pockets need to make it look like they're actually progressing in their respective fields.

I believe that's why we get those dime-a-dozen science articles almost daily about something that winked at them in their telescopes or microscopes.

Let a satellite pass Pluto -- (Neptune now) -- and you'll hear their versions of, "Elvis has left the building!"

Hype -- that's all it is.

I wonder how many people ... myself included ... can even name the satellites and other junk that's up there flying all around everywhere doing basically NOTHING?

Since I work for NASA and believe that what I do has value, the following statements may have some emotion attached to them.

AV,

Your obvious ignorance of anything scientific reveals you to be completely unqualified to pass judgement or even have a valid opinion on what passes as junk here on Earth much less orbiting our planet or flying around in the Solar System and beyond. Of course you can't name the satellites because you have no interest in science or what we can learn about our little blue island by observing it from above.
No, it's not Hype. It's using science to improve agriculture, understand the ocean and wind movements, track and predict the movement of typhoons, etc.
So, I suggest you lead a crusade to defund NASA so those pieces of junk can't give us weather information. You obviously don't care if thousands die in the wake of a hurricane because they didn't know it was coming. Similarly, you probably couldn't give a hoot-n-a-hollar if people starve because the current knowledge can't keep up with the population growth. Well, as long as it's not YOU or YOUR family starving.

If you hate science so much maybe you should stop using electricity and move into the Alaskan woods or something.