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I somehow get the feeling Mr. Morris was more famous than you guys will ever be.

I could be wrong ... but I doubt it.

Then verily, he has his reward.
 
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Can I keep this in mind the next time I quote from the Defender's Study Bible, only to hear that Mr. Morris is only "an hydraulics engineer"?

Example:

Genesis 30:37 And Jacob took him rods of green poplar, and of the hazel and chesnut tree; and pilled white strakes in them, and made the white appear which was in the rods.
Genesis 30:38 And he set the rods which he had pilled before the flocks in the gutters in the watering troughs when the flocks came to drink, that they should conceive when they came to drink.
Genesis 30:39 And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.


According to [the late] Henry M. Morris, an hydraulics engineer:
With this in mind, I submit that the matter concerning the creation of Jacob's flock being one of ignorance on the part of the writers of the Scriptures be laid to rest.

It has now been, in my estimation, explained to the satisfaction of anyone looking at this from a scientific viewpoint.

What say you?

I don't see what that has to do with what I said
 
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I somehow get the feeling Mr. Morris was more famous than you guys will ever be.

I could be wrong ... but I doubt it.

No, you are quite right, but for the wrong reason. Morris' creation science writings are an excellent representation of intellectual dishonesty. And just in case you don't know "intellectual dishonesty" is where a person arrives at a predetermined end with pick and choose information and discarding all the other information that shows that end to be invalid. This is one reason we have the peer review process in the mainstream scientific community, which is not seen in the creation science community.
 
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No, you are quite right, but for the wrong reason. Morris' creation science writings are an excellent representation of intellectual dishonesty. And just in case you don't know "intellectual dishonesty" is where a person arrives at a predetermined end with pick and choose information and discarding all the other information that shows that end to be invalid. This is one reason we have the peer review process in the mainstream scientific community, which is not seen in the creation science community.
I gave you guys a chance to highlight his "intellectual dishonesty," in two of my favorite examples; and frankly, I don't think you guys could.

You just highlighted something in read, gave me some technobable about it, and probably expected me to agree.
 
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I gave you guys a chance to highlight his "intellectual dishonesty," in two of my favorite examples; and frankly, I don't think you guys could.

You just highlighted something in read, gave me some technobable about it, and probably expected me to agree.

I did not see any technobabble, I did see remarks that were above your ability to understand.

When you don't understand something why don't you ask for clarification?
 
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I gave you guys a chance to highlight his "intellectual dishonesty," in two of my favorite examples; and frankly, I don't think you guys could.

You just highlighted something in read, gave me some technobable about it, and probably expected me to agree.

Well, I must have missed it. I'm not on here 24/7 like some people. I think what you are not understanding is in the definition of intellectual dishonesty I described, he ignores everything that invalidates his claims, as do all those who originate creation science literature. Another term to describe it you may recognize is "cherry picking". Cherry picking is quite a bit with climate change deniers as well. Either way, it amounts to being dishonest with ones' self, i.e.; intellectual dishonesty.
 
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Well, I must have missed it. I'm not on here 24/7 like some people. I think what you are not understanding is in the definition of intellectual dishonesty I described, he ignores everything that invalidates his claims, as do all those who originate creation science literature. Another term to describe it you may recognize is "cherry picking". Cherry picking is quite a bit with climate change deniers as well. Either way, it amounts to being dishonest with ones' self, i.e.; intellectual dishonesty.

Forgive me if I missed it, but did you ever answer the question concerning your view that God did not exist before the universe and that God didn't create the universe?
 
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Forgive me if I missed it, but did you ever answer the question concerning your view that God did not exist before the universe and that God didn't create the universe?

I may be wrong but I don't think that RickG claimed that.

Perhaps you should quote him instead of trying to use a botched paraphrase.
 
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Hmmm....don't think I'm going to follow your example.

Actually I made a correct paraphrase. Don't you remember? You never found a difference between my paraphrase and the actual quote in the discussion on the other thread.

I just claimed that you did an incorrect paraphrase here.
 
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I may be wrong but I don't think that RickG claimed that.

Perhaps you should quote him instead of trying to use a botched paraphrase.

You're wrong.

RickG: "Genesis is not factual. God did not precede nor create the universe."
 
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Actually I made a correct paraphrase. Don't you remember? You never found a difference between my paraphrase and the actual quote in the discussion on the other thread.

I just claimed that you did an incorrect paraphrase here.

Of course there's a difference in meaning between your now claimed paraphrase and the actual scripture.

Jesus didn't say what you 'paraphrased'.
 
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You're wrong.

RickG: "Genesis is not factual. God did not precede nor create the universe."

That is not a proper quote. Where is the link to his quote? If you are too lazy to quote you should at the very least give page number and post number.
 
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Of course there's a difference in meaning between your now claimed paraphrase and the actual scripture.

Jesus didn't say what you 'paraphrased'.


Yes he did. He did not say what I said word for word, but since we are dealing with translations here he did not say what was said in the translation word for word either.. He spoke in Aramaic and not English.
 
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That is not a proper quote.

What do you mean it's not a proper quote?

Where is the link to his quote? If you are too lazy to quote you should at the very least give page number and post number.

First, are you claiming that I've misquoted RickG?
 
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Yes he did. He did not say what I said word for word, but since we are dealing with translations here he did not say what was said in the translation word for word either.. He spoke in Aramaic and not English.

No, Jesus did not say what you claimed. Your paraphrase was in error.
 
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No, Jesus did not say what you claimed. Your paraphrase was in error.


Strange, no one else seems to think so. When you just quoted the verse again and you made your foolish statement it looks like you were the one that got the meaning of the verse wrong.
 
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What do you mean it's not a proper quote?



First, are you claiming that I've misquoted RickG?

When you quote someone it is standard behavior to include a link to the quote so that others may check your work. If you don't do links then you should not be arguing on the internet. Or at the very least you should avoid quoting altogether.
 
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When you quote someone it is standard behavior to include a link to the quote so that others may check your work. If you don't do links then you should not be arguing on the internet. Or at the very least you should avoid quoting altogether.

You didn't answer.
 
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