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Science insulting the image of Jesus

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If you watch the Ray Downing documentary, The Real Face of Jesus, they address the carbon dating process and debunk the claims of dating that make this a supposed forgery.


I like the monkey, spare the mouse!
 
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This is weird... This is part of the reason why I can understand why the Catholic Church has refused interpretation of its theology to laypersons...

To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: - Colossians 1:27

In which, if we have Christ in us, which scripture declares as a mystery, then a richness and a virtue should follow it.

"Love will not be constrained by mastery! When mastery cometh, the God of Love anon Beateth his wings, and farewell, he is gone!" - Chaucer

Which is why I am not a part of a big denomination. When they get to the point they figure it out! Farewell! Virtue is gone!
 
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To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: - Colossians 1:27

In which, if we have Christ in us, which scripture declares as a mystery, then a richness and a virtue should follow it.

"Love will not be constrained by mastery! When mastery cometh, the God of Love anon Beateth his wings, and farewell, he is gone!" - Chaucer

Which is why I am not a part of a big denomination. When they get to the point they figure it out! Farewell! Virtue is gone!
That doesn't address the weirdness of your post. Einstein's equations are attempts at interpreting statistical data acquired during experimentation and have nothing to do with "spiritual" matters. That's just weird...
 
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That doesn't address the weirdness of your post. Einstein's equations are attempts at interpreting statistical data acquired during experimentation and have nothing to do with "spiritual" matters. That's just weird...

"Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble." -Albert Einstien

An equation is something mental... but there are more than mental properties to mass and to nature. There are also spiritual properties that accompany mass. A bright, warm, sunshiny day can warm up the spirits as well as the flesh for example. There is a danger in being so caught up in the mental definition of things that the chemical and spiritual properties go with it. One can also be so caught up in the ecclesiastical definitions that one fails to possess what he professes!
 
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"Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble." -Albert Einstien

An equation is something mental... but there are more than mental properties to mass and to nature. There are also spiritual properties that accompany mass. A bright, warm, sunshiny day can warm up the spirits as well as the flesh for example. There is a danger in being so caught up in the mental definition of things that the chemical and spiritual properties go with it. One can also be so caught up in the ecclesiastical definitions that one fails to possess what he professes!

Everyone???????????????
 
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I don't disagree, but that doesn't explain why it would be insulting to represent Jesus as a person living in that time and place would likely have looked.
That's fine. Not what I'm used to seeing, but it doesn't bother me.
 
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Everyone???????????????

Well, then, people can harden themselves against the spiritual, so not everyone. As far as the image in the OP, I cannot believe that the gentlemen creating that image of Christ has experienced him on the spiritual level at all, otherwise the image would have appeared differently.
 
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Well, then, people can harden themselves against the spiritual, so not everyone. As far as the image in the OP, I cannot believe that the gentlemen creating that image of Christ has experienced him on the spiritual level at all, otherwise the image would have appeared differently.

Do people all have the same spiritual experiences?
 
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Well, then, people can harden themselves against the spiritual, so not everyone. As far as the image in the OP, I cannot believe that the gentlemen creating that image of Christ has experienced him on the spiritual level at all, otherwise the image would have appeared differently.
Because looking like Fabio is more spiritual than looking like a Middle Eastern man? I didn't realize spirituality had a skin tone.
 
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Because looking like Fabio is more spiritual than looking like a Middle Eastern man? I didn't realize spirituality had a skin tone.


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"Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble." -Albert Einstien

An equation is something mental... but there are more than mental properties to mass and to nature. There are also spiritual properties that accompany mass. A bright, warm, sunshiny day can warm up the spirits as well as the flesh for example. There is a danger in being so caught up in the mental definition of things that the chemical and spiritual properties go with it. One can also be so caught up in the ecclesiastical definitions that one fails to possess what he professes!
To my knowledge Einstein spoke only ever metaphorically about God or spirituality. I highly doubt that he would ever have considered his equations to be pertinent to calculating how "spiritual" one is... What a weird concept...

For one of the best interpretations of Einstein that I've read, you should look at Arthur Fine's The Shaky Game.
 
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I do like to visit churches when I visit the Polynesia. For one thing they keep the churches full of flowers and open. Pictured below is the Catholic church at Bora-Bora and Tahiti. All of which has the images of Christ done up reverently along with crowns of flowers.

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To my knowledge Einstein spoke only ever metaphorically about God or spirituality. I highly doubt that he would ever have considered his equations to be pertinent to calculating how "spiritual" one is... What a weird concept...

All I was trying to do is to separate the spiritual virtue from the intelligence and the mass. Spiritual virtue is not mass, therefore it cannot be bought. It is not knowledge therefore it cannot be taught. It is something that flows through us and that has properties of its own.
 
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All I was trying to do is to separate the spiritual virtue from the intelligence and the mass. Spiritual virtue is not mass, therefore it cannot be bought. It is not knowledge therefore it cannot be bought. It is something that flows through us and that has properties of its own.

When I was a kid you could go the corner store and by a pound of knowledge for a nickel. Can you imagine it? Now knowledge costs a fortune.
 
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When I was a kid you could go the corner store and by a pound of knowledge for a nickel. Can you imagine it? Now knowledge costs a fortune.

Yes, knowledge can be bought... If your looking to attend nearby Virginia Tech university you are looking to pay roughly $40,000 a year just in tuition and fees. And in this day and time...

An Associates degree in now worth what a high school diploma was twenty years ago
A Bachelors degree in now worth what an Associates degree was twenty years ago
A Masters degree is now what a Bachelors degree was twenty years ago
 
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Yes, knowledge can be bought... If your looking to attend nearby Virginia Tech university you are looking to pay roughly $40,000 a year just in tuition and fees. And in this day and time...

An Associates degree in now worth what a high school diploma was twenty years ago
A Bachelors degree in now worth what an Associates degree was twenty years ago
A Masters degree is now what a Bachelors degree was twenty years ago

Luckily, making unfounded assertions on the internet is completely free of charge...
 
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Luckily, making unfounded assertions on the internet is completely free of charge...

At my factory managers, engineers, accountants, and electrical designers - Folk use to land these positions with bachelors degrees, now they require a masters.
 
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