Scholastic Book Fairs accommodate state censorship efforts by segregating some titles (including "I am Ruby Bridges") into an optional collection

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Alot of librarians are Pro-LGBTQ+ activists. Hence, they probably did sneak them in to the library.


I don't see a question about activism there. This survey is about how confident librarians feel about being able to serve the needs of their queer patrons. Libraries and librarians have to serve their entire communities, helping all different kinds of people find the books relevant to their different needs.

The vast majority of respondents agree that they could benefit from additional training in meeting the needs of their queer patrons. So they are not (it would seem) coming from a place of knowledgeable activism.

But there are a few activists among them.

“The consciously chosen perversion of LGBT should not be promoted by libraries due to its historically and contemporary destructive impact on all aspects of society e.g. public health, economics, promoting personal immorality, and overall moral decadence and degeneration. Where this acute societal problem is concerned librarians should enhance their collections documenting the destructive consequences of this lifestyle. Librarians must direct users to resources such as epidemiological data, the increased occurrence of depression among LGBT populations, the dangerous consequences of raising children with confusion about appropriate gender role, the promiscuity of GLBT populations, the efforts of LGBT proponents and apologists to personally destroy those of us opposing their political objectives and personal degeneracy, point out the destructive historical consequences widespread LGBT lifestyles have had on nations throughout history, and show how accepting the reality that we are created by God and intended by him to live as monogamous heterosexuals [sic].
 
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Show us an example of this playing out. Activists pushing to add those books to a school library.
You need to read "After the Ball", written in 1989 by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen.
 
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Mysterious woman tells school board that Scholastic book sparked inappropriate content addiction

On November 14, a 20-year-old woman named Lanah Burkhardt appeared before the school board of the Conroe Independent School District in Texas. Burkhardt told the board that, when she was 11, she read a Scholastic book that introduced her to "a single kiss." According to Burkhardt, her exposure to this Scholastic book was directly responsible for her developing a debilitating addiction to inappropriate contentography.

[The offensive content:]
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Burkhardt went further [than just wanting that one book banned], arguing that Conroe should remove all Scholastic books from schools and stop hosting Scholastic book fairs. These steps were necessary, Burkhardt argued, to protect children from "sexual obscenity."

Burkhardt's appearance was promoted by SkyTree Book Fairs, a newly formed organization [with links to Brave Books] marketing itself as "an alternative to the sexually explicit content distributed in Scholastic's book fairs."

Burkhardt's appearance at the Conroe school board was also promoted by Brave Books. The company called it a "must watch" and a "powerful message that needs to be heard." Burkhardt's story was also pushed by Kirk Cameron, the former child actor who has several titles published by Brave Books and is an advisor to SkyTree Book Fairs.

Neither Brave Books nor Burkhardt disclosed that Burkhardt is an employee of Brave Books. According to her LinkedIn profile, Burkhardt is the company's "public relations coordinator."
 
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I’ll never understand why when it comes to sex, something 99% of people will do at some point in their lives, people freak out. But when it comes to violence, people are like “meh.”

Keeping in mind the above has about as much to do with sex as “Hunger Games” does to cookbooks.
 
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. School focus needs to be solely academic. Math, Science, Classics, History. Period.
My school day has a schedule that looks like this;

Language Arts
Math
Science
Lunch
Social
Art
Gym

Each class if 50 minutes.

My schedule is not
The Gay
How to be a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]
Propaganda injection time.
Find your child and turn them against
You
Drag Queen story hour
All them Alphabets
Spot the Pedo

You know what this "lack of focus" looks like?
*Half a dozen posters in our hallways reminding kids about resources for mental health and lgbtq support.
*one lesson a year in health exploring issues.
*Reading from, say 3 books a year that may highlight a gay character.
*navigating maybe 1 conversation a year in a different subject that gets on tbe topic in some capacity.
this is likely


If we wanted to indoctrinate your children on this stuff, rest assured, we would. For now we are struggling to indoctrination "don't be a jerk".
 
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My school day has a schedule that looks like this;

Language Arts
Math
Science
Lunch
Social
Art
Gym

Each class if 50 minutes.

My schedule is not
The Gay
How to be a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]
Propaganda injection time.
Find your child and turn them against
You
Drag Queen story hour
All them Alphabets
Spot the Pedo

You know what this "lack of focus" looks like?
*Half a dozen posters in our hallways reminding kids about resources for mental health and lgbtq support.
*one lesson a year in health exploring issues.
*Reading from, say 3 books a year that may highlight a gay character.
*navigating maybe 1 conversation a year in a different subject that gets on tbe topic in some capacity.
this is likely


If we wanted to indoctrinate your children on this stuff, rest assured, we would. For now we are struggling to indoctrination "don't be a jerk".

Reminds me of an article I read recently...



Of course, the main premise is incorrect....it's not all indoctrination.

First let's look up the definition of "indoctrination".

-the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically

Right so all that talk about teaching children to think for themselves isn't indoctrination. The result of something like that would be a rather large set of viewpoints and individual beliefs.

That's not what we're seeing.
 
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Reminds me of an article I read recently...



Of course, the main premise is incorrect....it's not all indoctrination.

First let's look up the definition of "indoctrination".

-the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically

Right so all that talk about teaching children to think for themselves isn't indoctrination. The result of something like that would be a rather large set of viewpoints and individual beliefs.

That's not what we're seeing.
All education is not indoctrination, but all education involves ideology (for the most part)

Every nation and culture has norms, values, and traditions. These are imparted to students in our schools, either explicitly, or implicitly.

For most of our nation's history, we have embraced

Rationalism (X is X, truth is real)
Representative government, and some degree of democracy (republic)
The two-parent household, and a rejection of things like polygamy
The idea that immigrants should "assimilate" to our laws and customs and embrace our way of life and government
The Christian worldview and ethos --even those who claim to be atheists still operate on Christian moral principles.
The belief in private property and some degree of capitalism

And much of that can be found in our school curriculums

The Neo-Marxist worldview is contrary to much of this, and many teachers and professors embrace things like

Irrationalism (X is not X, truth is an illusion)
Authoritarian government
The dissolution of the nuclear family
the idea that immigrants and people from other cultures should not assimilate or embrace our way of life.
The materialist and pragmatic worldview --there is no foundation to ethics, only that which gets "results"
Rejection of property rights and the promotion of socialism/communism

People who write books promoting sexual relations between kids and adults, transgenderism, socialism, or Critical race Theory (stuff like the 1619 Project which falsely claims that the country was literally founded as a slave state and that the Constitution was written to enforce human bondage), and atheism, are in that second group of individuals above

Now there are degrees to all of this, and it is a simple explanation, but it is accurate.
 
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I’ll never understand why when it comes to sex, something 99% of people will do at some point in their lives, people freak out. But when it comes to violence, people are like “meh.”

Keeping in mind the above has about as much to do with sex as “Hunger Games” does to cookbooks.
That's a USA cultural thing. Over here in germany, it's pretty much the other way around.
 
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That's a USA cultural thing. Over here in germany, it's pretty much the other way around.
I lived in Germany when I was younger.

I agreed with the German attitude towards violence in media --they were pretty strict about keeping that stuff away from kids.

But the sexual content was not what we are talking about here. Germans were laid back when it came to sex and nudity, but they would not have supported books in schools about older men getting with kids. Nor did their attitudes extend to transgenderism in kids, or the promotion of homosexuality in class.

this isn't about sex, it is about what is appropriate when it comes to what texts and materials are included in school libraries and classes. And if the attitude is "anything goes--no censorship"!, then I return to my original question about school libraries carrying books like the Turner Diaries or the Anarchist Cookbook
 
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That's a USA cultural thing. Over here in germany, it's pretty much the other way around.
That I remember about my time there. I remember when I saw an ad on just regular TV, fully nude woman. Front and rear. She’s in the shower, and just… Naked. I ask my great uncle what it was an ad for… Apparently it was toothpaste. LoL!
 
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But the sexual content was not what we are talking about here. Germans were laid back when it came to sex and nudity, but they would not have supported books in schools about older men getting with kids. Nor did their attitudes extend to transgenderism in kids, or the promotion of homosexuality in class.
What if I told you those things don’t exist in American schools either…?
 
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My school day has a schedule that looks like this;

Language Arts
Math
Science
Lunch
Social
Art
Gym

Each class if 50 minutes.

My schedule is not
The Gay
How to be a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]
Propaganda injection time.
Find your child and turn them against
You
Drag Queen story hour
All them Alphabets
Spot the Pedo

You know what this "lack of focus" looks like?
*Half a dozen posters in our hallways reminding kids about resources for mental health and lgbtq support.
*one lesson a year in health exploring issues.
*Reading from, say 3 books a year that may highlight a gay character.
*navigating maybe 1 conversation a year in a different subject that gets on tbe topic in some capacity.
this is likely


If we wanted to indoctrinate your children on this stuff, rest assured, we would. For now we are struggling to indoctrination "don't be a jerk".
My comment stands. Not sure why you are attempting to spin this, especially if you are still in school...or are you a teacher?

Academics. Period. That's why the kids today cannot perform as they did decades ago.
 
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Mysterious woman tells school board that Scholastic book sparked inappropriate content addiction

On November 14, a 20-year-old woman named Lanah Burkhardt appeared before the school board of the Conroe Independent School District in Texas. Burkhardt told the board that, when she was 11, she read a Scholastic book that introduced her to "a single kiss." According to Burkhardt, her exposure to this Scholastic book was directly responsible for her developing a debilitating addiction to inappropriate contentography.

[The offensive content:]
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Burkhardt went further [than just wanting that one book banned], arguing that Conroe should remove all Scholastic books from schools and stop hosting Scholastic book fairs. These steps were necessary, Burkhardt argued, to protect children from "sexual obscenity."

Burkhardt's appearance was promoted by SkyTree Book Fairs, a newly formed organization [with links to Brave Books] marketing itself as "an alternative to the sexually explicit content distributed in Scholastic's book fairs."

Burkhardt's appearance at the Conroe school board was also promoted by Brave Books. The company called it a "must watch" and a "powerful message that needs to be heard." Burkhardt's story was also pushed by Kirk Cameron, the former child actor who has several titles published by Brave Books and is an advisor to SkyTree Book Fairs.

Neither Brave Books nor Burkhardt disclosed that Burkhardt is an employee of Brave Books. According to her LinkedIn profile, Burkhardt is the company's "public relations coordinator."
So you trotted out an extreme example. someone who claims a single normal kiss was "obscenity", representative of no one but this person.

Ok. Not sure what your attempt is here, but so noted.

Well, everyone can speak up. The masses, and the extreme examples like this, I suppose.
 
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Ok. Not sure what your attempt is here, but so noted.
It should have been clear that she was denigrating Scholastic in the hopes of getting business for the company she works for. This was synthetic outrage on display for personal gain.
 
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My comment stands. Not sure why you are attempting to spin this, especially if you are still in school...or are you a teacher?
I'm not arguing that validity of your comment. I'm more trying to understand the point of it because there are a LOT of implications being made in that comment that are, in my opinion, not an accurate reflection of what is happenning in schools.

1) I am a teacher. It's not spin. That is a typical scheduled day at school and that is LITERALLY what is happenning in our schools in regards to "normalizing gays". Now I'm in Alberta Canada and NOT the US. BUT our province is notoriously Conservative (refered to as the Texas of Canada).
I'm not in every school in the US, but I would bet dollars to donuts that a LARGE chunk of schools are FAR closer to my school than what you are describing.

And to be clear, the only times we end up talking about homosexuality in class is when a bigot makes an obviously inappropriate statement that we need to unpack and clarify why it's hurtful, unnecessary and mean.

Academics. Period. That's why the kids today cannot perform as they did decades ago.
So, again, what SPECIFIC AND EXPLICIT content is eating up a teacher's day that is not academics? Are you referring to gym? Art? Music? Options?
Because the impression you are giving me (and I don't know if that's your intent) is that they are LITERALLY not teaching science AT ALL and are replacing it with studying gender theory or something to that effect.

Here are three reasons why I think that kids are underperforming in LA and Math.
1) There is a philosophy that went into favour amongst academics in the last decade or two that a LOT of teachers did not like and were not getting good results. Here is the only place where I would say schools have significantly failed. Luckily this is starting to get a new look in and folks are revert to some older strategies (whew!)
2) The "New Math" curriculum. I love it and see the point of it...but it pursues an understanding of that that can appear to be simply too difficult for very right brained thinkers. If you don't "Get" numbers and math, it's not helpful (IMHO) to bog down in terms and 4 different strategies to employ a skill.
I'd say something like 70% of students respond well to basic "here's the most common strategy. Practice". The remaining 30 are part EXCELLENT at math and need an extra challenge OR, struggle SO much with math that they need ONE alternative strategy that MAY work for them.
3) The ambivalence to knowledge and skill that parents and students have is disconcerting. I don't know if I would say MOST parents are like that but a shocking amount of parents ARE like that in practice. Yes they SAY "we want our kid to do well" but the hard fact is that they never hold their children accountable for....well, anything. Poor grade on a test; phone call home for huge amount of missed assignments; playing on phone in class (often all of the above) and a common response is "Yeaahhhhhhhhhh. it's so hard to get him to do stuff. He's just on his phone/playing video games all the time". That's the response....of a parent.

You can blame teachers but it truly IS a case of "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink".
Given that it is a teacher, a system, the student and the parents who are involved in educating an individual, it seems reasonable to suggest that no ONE person is at fault but that everyone bears responsibility for the slow slide down. And I think that each group would need to reflect on what could be better. To be clear, in regards to teacher's fault, I do think that can be on a person by person basis, very different. There are some teachers who are literally doing it all....and just UNBELIEVABLE at their craft....no kids (or old kids)....and just super hard workers. Kind friendly, smart all that stuff.

But, like all of humanity, not every teacher is like that. And there are certainly some bad teachers. Having two teacher parents my daughter has become ....very good at spotting bad teachers. Luckily, she would say she's only had one really bad one (and he has improved immensely this year which is great!) and one not so good when she was younger.
 
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So you trotted out an extreme example. someone who claims a single normal kiss was "obscenity", representative of no one but this person.

Ok. Not sure what your attempt is here, but so noted.

Well, everyone can speak up. The masses, and the extreme examples like this, I suppose.
So when does an example become "extreme"? What is the line where it goes from reasonable to extreme? Because it seems, in my sources, there have been a LOT of "extreme" examples.
 
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So when does an example become "extreme"? What is the line where it goes from reasonable to extreme? Because it seems, in my sources, there have been a LOT of "extreme" examples.
Pointing out something entirely normal in every story - and home- (mom and dad kissed!) for hundreds of years is odd.
Pointing out graphic sexual passages or drawings in childrens' books is another thing. That does not belong in schools, places of academic - not sexual - instruction.

If you want your kids to have these books with the graphic passages, go borrow or buy them.
 
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What if I told you those things don’t exist in American schools either…?
I would say that you are wrong

There are a good dozen books with very questionable themes and content, including "Lawn Boy"

I am not going to mention the others or even look them up, because I don't need that in my browsing history, and people here don't need to view them either

Ron DeSantis did a press conference where he walked through the content on a number of these titles, and it wasn't Judy Blume stuff --it was Robert Mapplethorpe stuff. You can go do a little research for yourself if you want to get informed on this
 
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All education is not indoctrination, but all education involves ideology (for the most part)

I guess I'd agree with your statement since you included the qualifier "for the most part". A cookbook doesn't seem to hold ideological maxims for example, yet can still be educational. If you're talking about an evangelical Sunday school....I'd guess it's rather heavy on ideology.


Every nation and culture has norms, values, and traditions. These are imparted to students in our schools, either explicitly, or implicitly.

Well...again since you added the qualifier "implicitly" and obviously you won't have any way of proving that...anynore than I'll be able to disprove it...I'll just state that I disagree that education has to do these things.



For most of our nation's history, we have embraced

Rationalism (X is X, truth is real)

I don't know of any belief system that doesn't. I suppose it's possible such a belief system exists....but I don't know what it could possibly describe or what it could possibly say.

Representative government, and some degree of democracy (republic)

When you say we "embraced" this concept...you mean...what exactly?

The two-parent household, and a rejection of things like polygamy

Never came up in my public education.

The idea that immigrants should "assimilate" to our laws and customs and embrace our way of life and government

The melting pot and salad bowl concepts of US society were explored some....

But I honestly don’t know if the melting pot example was given preference.


The Christian worldview and ethos --even those who claim to be atheists still operate on Christian moral principles.

That, quite plainly, didn't happen. The opposite did...and I can recall multiple examples of Christian teachers and children attempting to sneak Christian teachings into their schools...which widely failed and received condemnation from the left.


The belief in private property and some degree of capitalism

I've only ever met one real communist. He was a friend of a friend...with almost no possessions and was couch surfing when I met him. Friendly and kind guy.

Every other socialist or communist was of the sort that wanted everyone to be forced into socialism or communism before they would begin living accordingly.

Which doesn't give me confidence they truly believed in the economic possibilities they espoused.


And much of that can be found in our school curriculums

Well....I'm sure you can find some of that in some curriculums. I think I would need some evidence to believe it's so widespread though.


The Neo-Marxist worldview is contrary to much of this, and many teachers and professors embrace things like

I think we can summarize it as "contrary to reality". Regardless of the many ways it can be attempted...it's requirements for success aren't yet attainable and if they ever were, immediately become morally questionable.


Irrationalism (X is not X, truth is an illusion)
Authoritarian government
The dissolution of the nuclear family
the idea that immigrants and people from other cultures should not assimilate or embrace our way of life.
The materialist and pragmatic worldview --there is no foundation to ethics, only that which gets "results"
Rejection of property rights and the promotion of socialism/communism

I think the two fundamental flaws are...

1. The requirement for the complete and dramatic alteration of all human consciousness.

2. Utopian degrees of abundance which simply don't exist.


People who write books promoting sexual relations between kids and adults, transgenderism, socialism, or Critical race Theory (stuff like the 1619 Project which falsely claims that the country was literally founded as a slave state and that the Constitution was written to enforce human bondage), and atheism, are in that second group of individuals above

Well I'm an atheist, but I'm not a Marxist. I would suggest that you consider atheism as an absence of belief instead of a belief system or worldview.



Now there are degrees to all of this, and it is a simple explanation, but it is accurate.

Well I appreciate your perspective.
 
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