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I don't get it.You must be an Atheist Liberal if you disagree on any of the fundamentals, you know!
These are called CULTS. They are not denominations. You pick and choose out of the Bible and don't believe that it's God's Word and is thus infallible because it was written by men.
If there is no spirtual standard of absolute truth in your life, you have no absolute measure of what is right and what is wrong. And when people lack this, they don't repent because they don't think they have done anything wrong.
And absent repentence of sin, there is indeed spiritual unhealthiness.
You're supposed to line up with what God says. I don't know why everyone thinks they get to be God. What you believe is irrelevant and this is why so many folks who call themselves Christians look NOTHING like Jesus Christ. Too many folks think that what they believe trumps what Jesus says just because they don't "believe" His Word is His Word.
Do you share the Gospel with others? Where does your knowledge of this Gospel come from?
Spoken like a child who does not listen. Once again, you haven't seen a single place where I've encouraged anyone to believe what I say, but rather what the Word of God says.
Ask TFD. She's the one who says she doesn't believe God's Word is infallible or inerrant so she apparently is believing what she wants and rejecting the parts she doesn't want.
You don't have to say something for it to be true. Many people speak indirectly because they think it hides how they truly feel, or they think so much of what they're saying that they don't even realize what they're saying. If you are not pushing that your beliefs are right and that you're not encouraging them, you wouldn't say denominations are cults and you wouldn't call me spiritually unhealthy.
Saying it's the Word of God doesn't make it true. The Pharisee's did the exact same thing and Christ Himself told them they were not always right.
Before you can efficiently debate with some of us you have to accept our beliefs.
I most certainly would call them what they are. And have it on authority of God's Word to do so. Likewise with you. Unrepentent sin leaves people spiritually bankrupt. It blocks the relationship with Jesus Christ. And if you have adopted a belief system that tells you that the truth of God's Word is anything other, then you're spiritually deficient.
That's right. It's the Word of God because it's God's Word.
Stop patting yourself on the back. I've told you before, I'm not here to debate with you. There is no debate over God's Word. I'm tasked to deliver His truth to you. You can reject it all you want.
Debates go back and forth and people add to their arguments. I'm repeating the same thing to you. If you're debating, you're doing it by yourself.
God's Word is His Word. You can debate that all you want, but it is what it is.
FD is quite alright, and I only question the parts that don't seem to make sense lined up against the rest of the Word. The Bible is mostly truthful. But as I've said, nothing created or touched or changed by man is perfect.
The Bible is mostly truthful.
But as I've said, nothing created or touched or changed by man is perfect.
If you were not here to debate than you wouldn't be here would you?
If you weren't trying to convince us your way is God's way then you wouldn't be so defensive.
You're repeating the same thing because I'm repeating the same thing because I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say.
So because it doesn't make sense to your very limited, seen nothing of the world 16 year old mind, you get to question an ALl KNOWING GOD? You sound as ridiculous as Job.
But as the Word says Then the LORD spoke to Job out of the storm:
7 "Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.
8 "Would you discredit my justice?
Would you condemn me to justify yourself?
9 Do you have an arm like God's,
and can your voice thunder like his? Job 40:7-9
or rather
1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the storm. He said:
2 "Who is this that darkens my counsel
with words without knowledge?
3 Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.
4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6 On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone-
7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels [a] shouted for joy?
8 "Who shut up the sea behind doors
when it burst forth from the womb,
9 when I made the clouds its garment
and wrapped it in thick darkness,
10 when I fixed limits for it
and set its doors and bars in place,
11 when I said, 'This far you may come and no farther;
here is where your proud waves halt'?
12 "Have you ever given orders to the morning,
or shown the dawn its place,
13 that it might take the earth by the edges
and shake the wicked out of it? Job 38:1-13
That little piece of Job should give you pause to check that prideful spirit of yours because you obviously have made the mistake of knowing that your belief means more than what an All Knowing God KNOWS.
Again, the audacious pride of a jar of clay that uses less than 10% of the brain capacity God has given it, yet daresto think it can unilaterally determine what part of God's Word is true and what parts are not?
How exactly is your fallible knowledge gained from fallible men allowing you to make anything other than a fallible conclusion about what parts of the Bible are true?
God's Word was not created. God's Word is eternal. And the hand of man can't touch and change that which never changes.
Sure I would be. It's what prophets do. They witness God's truth. Go back and read your Bible. You're told what God's Truth is and that's that. You can debate it all day but it ain't gonna change what you're STILL REPEATEDLY being told.
I can cut and paste what the Christians have said in these forums.
I don't have a way. Jesus Christ IS the Way. I'm not called of Him to convince you or anyone else that He is Who HE says He is or that His Word is His Word.
You haven't seen me get defensive unless you call tellling you what God's Word says again and again is defensive.
I'm repeating the same thing because the truth doesn't change.
You're repeating the same thing because you're 16 and haven't developed a better defense for your need to live in disobedience.
But hang around here long enough. I'm sure some of the older folks will give you some pointers.
Man wrote the Bible, inspired by the Holy Spirit. I will not deny the prophets and disciples were near 100% accurate, but after so many years and so many translations and so many misuses, I would have to put more faith that I feel comfortable with in man to believe it's kept that accuracy.
I trust God. But God will never break that free will to make sure of something that we can so easily find out on our own if we just put a little more trust in Him. You don't need God's Word necessarily if you put faith in Him, whether it's infallible or not.
You learn a lot at 16 if you let yourself. Everyone grows differently, physically, mentally and spiritually.
I can see you get defensive when you question me based on something you know very little about. My age, my spirituality, the prophets didn't need to use these things to get their point across. If you were really so concentrated on just telling me God's word, then those things wouldn't matter to you.
I already know Jesus is the way. And I've said it time and time again. But what I hear here is not what Jesus has called us to do and I shudder to think about that judgment day when He'll show me all the times I tries to pass off my knowledge of anything Holy as right.
I don't try to say my way is right.
No way that is said by a regular human can be said as absolutely true because we all interpret in our own way. I'm just trying to make sure no one else makes that mistake.
Sure they would. You don't listen in part because your're 16 and already think you know it all. No defense. Just observant to what every teen goes through. Just wait tillyou get a year of college under your belt. You're really gonna think you know it all then.
And what you're being told is absent the Word of God, you lack the ability to KNOW what Jesus Christ has called us to do.
If you've got a way, I'll say it for ya: It ain't right.
would the blind lead the blind and they both end up in a ditch?
Without God's standard of absolute truth as your guide, you would do well to not advise ANYONE in these matters lest you have someone's blood on your hands for leading them into destruction.
It is rude to talk down to someone because of their age, Zaac.Sure they would. You don't listen in part because your're 16 and already think you know it all. No defense. Just observant to what every teen goes through. Just wait tillyou get a year of college under your belt. You're really gonna think you know it all then.
And what you're being told is absent the Word of God, you lack the ability to KNOW what Jesus Christ has called us to do.
If you've got a way, I'll say it for ya: It ain't right.
would the blind lead the blind and they both end up in a ditch?
Without God's standard of absolute truth as your guide, you would do well to not advise ANYONE in these matters lest you have someone's blood on your hands for leading them into destruction.
He gave us the Bible as a guidebook to Him, not as a rulebook. To find Him you do need something more, something to kick off your faith. But once you have it, you don't need it as badly.
It is rude to talk down to someone because of their age, Zaac.
You don't need to say it. I already know it's not exact. I already know I'll never be right on about what God has to say. But I know all this, and I know that no one else has the capacity of come close to predicting or determining what God has planned. I've said it, a thousand times, and yet you still think that I believe I know it all. Maybe you're just so caught up in my age to forget to listen.
Ask TFD. She's the one who says she doesn't believe God's Word is infallible or inerrant so she apparently is believing what she wants and rejecting the parts she doesn't want.
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