satanic music

[draper]

I will take The Grateful dead or Pink Floyd anyday, remember God gives secular musicians their talent as well......

Yeah, God mut have something to do with the Great Gig in the Sky, anyways

As for Satanic music, I wouldn't listen to anything directly praising Satan, for the same reason I wouldn't listen to anything directly praising the Christian God - I don't believe in either of them.

Besides as OR said, I've never heard a song praising Satan in the first place.

As for as song with 'negative messages' my scope of what a negative message is is a bit narrower than most on here, as I'm not a Christian....but I wouldn't do anything bad because I heard it in a song

 

[luc]

satanic musicians generally can run circles aound their christian counterparts

 

[Jakeskull]

I'm 28 and have been listening to bands like Slayer,Cannibal Corpse,Deicide, and Death for about 15 years now. My relationship with God couldnt be closer. I'm not the typical Chrisian,I dont even know if I am Christian but I know I was born Catholic and I feel very at peace despite the music I choose to listen to. There are so many misconceptions about heavy music as being "evil" and some of the extremist Christians even burn this music,but burning it wont solve anything. Heavy music is an important part of my life, it has really helped me trough some tough times. Much of my music honestly does have anti-christian lyrics.This doesnt mean I agree with it, I like to keep my mind open to anything. I have listened to Christian rock but it lacks the aggression of extreme music. If anything these negative lyrics have helped me see how dark the world can be but there is ALWAYS lights at the end. I choose to see the good in things,even if my music is contrary.

 

[megjesfai]

I don't find him repulsive, I find him convicting.

Marilyn Manson grew up going to Christian School and is the son of a Pastor, and still his entire understanding of Christianity comes down to "slaves" trying to earn their way into Heaven and crushing peoples' spirits.

I find this convicting because Manson is, in a very real way, a child of the american church. I think we need to look at him, and then take a look at what we're telling the world, and those young believers growing up among us, about Jesus. What he sings about is certainly what someone told him, directly or not.

Frankly, I'd welcome the chance to have a cup of coffee with the guy.

i find him repulsive. i saw him in concert the year before i was saved. and watched him sodomize himself with a water bottle and spray the water on the crowd. i watched masses of people (including my ex) get sprayed by water that came out of a bottle that was up mansons *ss.
he spoke out against God and Jesus. was so blasphemous that even though i did not believe in God at the time it made me cringe.
he glorifies a man who started a cult that murdered a pregnant woman and cut the unborn fetus out of her womb. and killed many people out of PURE EVIL (lord Jesus protect my mind and spirit after speaking of this. i rebuke the devil away from my mind and heart. in your precious beautiful name amen).

there are many people who have been sexually abused and treated like garbage in many other ways by churches, pastors,and so-called christian parents all over this country and all over this world. there is a lot of corruption and hypocrisy in churches but that doesn't mean that people should go out and glorfy and support what marilyn manson does. he is pure evil. i pray that he will be delivered. but until then...i pray more for those who follow his doctrine and listen to his music. Bad things happen to everyone. but its what we do with it. and there is NO excuse for marilyn manson being who he is and doing what he does. no excuse.

 

[megjesfai]

all right heres my two cents. There is power in the spoken word.anything that you speak with enough power will manifest itself in some way shape or form. that is the whole point to prayer and witchcraft.glorfying murder, death, decay, evil, corpses, blood, vampires, demons, and essential satan in music is not putting very good energy into the world. You must examine the reasons why this music is pleasing to you. For example, i was a HUGE doors fan for YEARS. Then after i gave my life to Jesus i stopped wanting to listen to them as much. Now i listen to the Grateful dead more. the reason why is because of the energy the music gives off. Alot of it has bad vibes to it. and is just plain out glorfying evil. I noticed that its not nessisarily listening to the Doors that has caused me to backslide...its more like when istart to backslide that is what i am drawn to listen to. because i feel in more of a negative mood.
I can't imagine what mood someone would have to be in to WANT to listen to Marilyn Manson, cannibal corpse or other types of evil music.

Come on guys, this stuff is serious. there really are people out there in this world that mutilate people and all sortsa horrible stuff. Its real. satan exists. and we must do everything we can to fight against him. and you aren't really fighting against him by listening to music by people who blantenly are blasphemous against our Lord and Savior and glorify satan.

In my personal opinion whether or not someone listens to the lyrics or not...anyone who listens to Marilyn Manson or such bands and claims to be a Christian needs to sersiouly examine who they are and their walk with Christ. and they need a reality check: go online and do a search on some of the stuff that manson and rob zombie and those types of bands sing about. it will probaly and should scare the hell out of you.
satan wants to desensitize us to the reality of what he does so we don't take him seriously. he uses these artists to do that through music. so don't fall into the trap. there is plenty of secular music that is not evil......

 

[ascribe2thelord]

i dont get it... what is the problem with satanic music? i mean, if the music is good, can't you just ignore the message? i'd say that 95% of the music i listen to has a message that is completley irrelevant to me.. i still like it though, but couldnt care less about the lyrics...

What are you calling Satanic? All music that isn't Christian, or do you actually listen to real Satanists' music?

 

[ascribe2thelord]

satanic musicians generally can run circles aound their christian counterparts

 

[ascribe2thelord]

Why does all the good music worship satan?
*mr.cheese ponders*

It does not, unless you're calling punk rock Satan-worship music. Which if you are, then ---- your opinions! Haha, just playing with ya, a little punk rocker mentality there.

Gabba Gabba Hey!

 

[ascribe2thelord]

i find him repulsive. i saw him in concert the year before i was saved. and watched him ... [omit] ... he spoke out against God and Jesus. was so blasphemous that even though i did not believe in God at the time it made me cringe.
he glorifies a man who started a cult that murdered a pregnant woman and cut the unborn fetus out of her womb. and killed many people out of PURE EVIL (lord Jesus protect my mind and spirit after speaking of this. i rebuke the devil away from my mind and heart. in your precious beautiful name amen).

there are many people who have been sexually abused and treated like garbage in many other ways by churches, pastors,and so-called christian parents all over this country and all over this world. there is a lot of corruption and hypocrisy in churches but that doesn't mean that people should go out and glorfy and support what marilyn manson does. he is pure evil. i pray that he will be delivered. but until then...i pray more for those who follow his doctrine and listen to his music. Bad things happen to everyone. but its what we do with it. and there is NO excuse for marilyn manson being who he is and doing what he does. no excuse.

Amen!!! By the way I once witnessed to a person who liked Manson. Pray for him if you will. (I don't remember his name... he is a Turkish guy living in Lübeck, Germany, that's all I know.)

 

[Ceccia]

CAN YOU LISTEN TO CHRISTIAN MUSIC FOR ONE WEEK?
NOTICE THE CHANGE IN YOUR ADDITUDE... CAN YOU DO IT...? I KNOW YOU CAN!

I did it...and I felt like I was going insane. I'm not being sacrastic in the least. Because I HATE mainstream musical genres...and to me, the Christian pop/rock/rap/reggae/metal (but most of all the smarmy pop songs!) sound just like the secular songs, musically speaking.

I don't listen to cheesy, bland, generic secular music, so why would I listen to cheesy, bland, generic Christian music?

I don't think all music fits neatly into categories of "for God" or "against God". I don't think it's accurate to say that unless the lyrics are specifically praising God, that it's bad or wrong.

God gave me a taste for opera, Celtic music, etc. I cannot force myself to listen to music that I hate, no matter how holy the lyrics are. Songs can have lyrics that are not religious in nature without being blasphemous or wrong!

I'm listening to Josh Groban right now...his lyrics aren't about God (well, except for "Jesu, joy of man's desiring", lol) but things like this certinaly don't make me want to sin or cause my mind to dwell on unholy things...

Sometimes things can't be put into neat boxes and labelled as being right or wrong for everyone.

 

[Ceccia]

i listen to a lot of techno. almost no lyrics in any of those songs, but some people i talk to are taken aback by it, just because it's so radical. i think techno is one of the least potentially harmful genre's just because of the lack of any deep message, or meaning, just a shallow beat, that's all.

Ooh, this may not be relevant to the debate at hand, but do you like Sasha Lazard? or Operatica? (techno with added instruments and lyrics, actually...kind of hard to describe, but both make excellent music. Give them a listen one day if you haven't already )

 

[ps139]

Ooh, this may not be relevant to the debate at hand, but do you like Sasha Lazard? or Operatica? (techno with added instruments and lyrics, actually...kind of hard to describe, but both make excellent music. Give them a listen one day if you haven't already

I love electronic music and I think you have really good taste in music (I saw your post in the 'favorite bands/artists" thread ) and thanks for this recommendation, I think I'll like it!

 

[ps139]

satan wants to desensitize us to the reality of what he does so we don't take him seriously. he uses these artists to do that through music. so don't fall into the trap. there is plenty of secular music that is not evil......

I also have been feeling some bad vibes from the Doors lately. Some songs, not all of them though.

 

[megjesfai]

yeah i get really bad vibes off a lot of their stuff. some of it is really upbeat. none of it is really POSTIVE. I still read some books about the doors and i'll listen to one of my million doors cds once in a while but not like i used to. i'd still go see one of the remaining members in concert though. robbie was awesome in concert. b/c the band wasn't the problem it was Jim.
having a kid helps me to discern music better. even htough shes a little baby i find myself even tolerating some of my husbands sickenly sweet jam music. just b/c i know its good for her to listen to music that has good spirits behind it.

i can't see how someone could ever say that mansons music has "good spirits" about it. or with an in a million mile radius of it. and frankly i don't care what our "american churches" did to him. Blasphemy against the holy ghost is an unforgivable sin. thats what the bible says. that is what marilyn manson does.
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[jaimegerise]

What about Kiss? They used to be Knights In Satans Service, now they're just really old guys wearing spandex? My father always told me not to take any man wearing makeup seriously.

My husband has been a HUGE Kiss fan since they began, and I've heard him say that the whole "Knights in satans's service" thing was never something that the group Kiss itself condoned. Obviously made up by whoever. The same thing can be applied to practically ANY band out there....an acronym can be made from any word.

Oh, but I will say this....I like to joke with him that he likes men who perform in glitter and makeup....he doesn't take too kindly to that.

Gene Simmons is Jewish, btw.

 

[theSaved#1]

ok u don't pay attention to their lyrics, but somehow is gonna affect ur relation with God in a terrible effect.Satanic music may not take a bad effects on you imediately, but then after a while u may not want to pray, start doubting ur faith on God, or start questioning the Bible, or worse, u may not want to be a christian anymore. trust me i've seen so many cases of christian people listening to christian music

 

[theSaved#1]

about kiss that is just a dumb gossip

 

[GreenDragon]

i dont get it... what is the problem with satanic music? i mean, if the music is good, can't you just ignore the message? i'd say that 95% of the music i listen to has a message that is completley irrelevant to me.. i still like it though, but couldnt care less about the lyrics...

I agree 100% with this post. Almost all of the music I listen to is "satanic" or "bashes God", and I'm a Christian. Does it make me a bad Christian? I don't think so. I don't think God would even care if I listen to Marilyn Manson and Slipknot or <insert Christian band>. I've tried listening to Christian music before (I figure there have to be at least a few good bands that say something positive about God) but I really haven't found anything I like. Someone said (very early in this thread) that Christian radio music seems to just be remixes of "Jesus Loves Me"; I would agree with that. Everything I've heard on Christian radio is absolute ****.

 

[alli_boo]

Music has a profound and subtle effect on the minds of listeners. I believe that certain musical patterns and structures can affect people without them even knowing it. Plato, one of the world's greatest thinkers, said that music should be regulated by the state because of its powerful effects. While I totally disagree with state control over music, I believe that at some level he has a point. I don't agree with him on much, but lets face it, he wasn't exactly an idiot. Listening to music that praises Satan...lets examine this.
1. I'm sure the composer is satanist. (Why else would he write the song? If it were for money he'd sell out and write some crappy 3 chord pop song) Do you want to give his inner feelings the chance to enter your mind? I believe that music has that power....it can stir up and enhance any emotion.
2. Whether or not you try to "ignore" the lyrics, they are subconsciosly stored in your mind. Not Good.
3. When you play it, there is a good chance others will hear it. What if they love the message and become involved in satanism? Not good.

I dont think this is so. Some bands have even been quoted as saying "This is just stuff i was thinking about, its not like i actually believe this" You knever know what they are thinking when they right a song, which makes it so great. If an artists has a creative thought, sometimes it goes towards a satanic direction. I mean im an artist at heart, and several people have criticized me work, saying it was satanic and what not, but im a christian and always will be. So im guessing the question were really after hear, is what makes a christian a christian? Does their music tastes have any role in their faith of god? I dont believe this to be true. I mean the music you listen to doesnt dictate what you believe in. So i believe these questions are alot deeper than they appear. Its all a matter of faith, and your belief.

 

[alli_boo]

My husband has been a HUGE Kiss fan since they began, and I've heard him say that the whole "Knights in satans's service" thing was never something that the group Kiss itself condoned. Obviously made up by whoever. The same thing can be applied to practically ANY band out there....an acronym can be made from any word.

Oh, but I will say this....I like to joke with him that he likes men who perform in glitter and makeup....he doesn't take too kindly to that.

Gene Simmons is Jewish, btw.

Ok about kiss some more. My dad has loved them since before i was born, and i grew up listening to them, and ive even had the privelage of seeing them in concert. So It is my personal opinion that they are not satanic, they are far from it .