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Originally posted by seekingtruth
There is way too much Flip Wilsonism around today IMO. "the devil made me do it" for those of you too young to remember Flip Wilson.
Originally posted by seekingtruth
Thanks for the welcome, guys. Why does preterism make some people so uncomfortable? I don't get that at all.
There is way too much Flip Wilsonism around today IMO. "the devil made me do it" for those of you too young to remember Flip Wilson.
Originally posted by RKF
You know there is something wrong when you split even yourself: Preterest, half and full
The Bible says that a house divided against itself can't stand! hmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!
Hi rpggal:Originally posted by rpggal
Well, to each his own views.
But as I said earlier, I am a futurist, and thus, I hold futuristic view. Although I love to read all your views, I will say that I think futurist view is the correct view.
No offence meant.
Originally posted by seekingtruth
Good post, GW,
It is right there in the scripture. You have to stretch the meaning of generation to mean race or some such nonsense in order to say He didn't mean what He said. Then you have the problem of the other passage where He said "some of you standing here". No way that could mean some future generation.
Universal Creeds and Calvinistic Confessions
The Nicene Creed says this about the final judgment by Jesus Christ:
He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He shall come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.
The Apostles Creed says this:
He ascended into Heaven, and is seated at the right hand of the God the Father Almighty. From there he will come again to judge the living and the dead.
The Athanasian Creed says this:
He ascended into heaven, is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty, and from there he will come to judge the living and the dead. At his coming all people will rise again with their own bodies to answer for their personal deeds. Those who have done good will enter eternal life, but those who have done evil will go into everlasting fire.
It adds this warning: "This is the true Christian Faith. Whoever does not faithfully and firmly believe this cannot be saved."
In these formulations, God's final corporate judgment of both the resurrected living and the resurrected dead is said to take place in the future. It cannot have been an event in A.D. 70. This eschatological affirmation is denied by all heretical preterists.
This is the official eschatology of the Christian church. It has been so from the beginning, when the New Testament's texts were written. This view extended through the first three centuries of the church until the earliest creeds were formulated. The men who formulated the judicial statements that have defined the Christian faith institutionally had no doubt about what the New Testament teaches regarding the last days. The church has been clear for almost two millennia that anyone who denies these views is a heretic. Therefore he who denies this view of the future and who remains voluntarily as a member of the church is a subversive. He remains in the institutional church in order to undermine the Christian faith and steal God's church, as surely as Arius and his followers were subversives who were trying to capture the church for the devil.
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