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Excellent point.p.s.s. For those who understand typology. Remember the Israelites who were enslaved in Egypt (representing slavery to sin in the NT) and then their escape through the wilderness (representing our faith's journey toward the "Promised Land") unto the land of milk and honey (representing heaven). Escaping sin by following Christ is the beginning.
Your adding on,it says how he sees us.No .. he sees you as you are...
How could we be allowed in,unless we are totally pure?It is a daily, life-long process. Once we accept the Passover lamb we are allowed free access into the Heavenly Sanctuary!
So true...Your adding on,it says how he sees us.
Ephesians 1:4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love
Colossians 1:22
But now he has reconciled you by Christ's physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation
Point proven,under law,no one ever feels good enough.Condemnation personified!
Paul was talkiing about walking in ressurection power.He also said we are free from sin 3 times in Romans 6.Something,or someone is free,is he not?Paul is clear that the perfection achieved via sanctification is not done at conversion:
Philippians 3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.Another passage regarding the need for believers to have further sanctification is Hebrews 12:7-10. In that passage God is said to chastise those who are already His "sons" so that they may attain proper "holiness."
p.s. My take on Hebrews 10:14 from back when.
1 Thessalonians 4:4
That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour
Here is an interesting verse.. Possessing his vessel in sanctification... almost sounds like keeping it pure..
Amen! And it was God at work in us! (phil 2)1Co 1:30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
Christ Jesus is my sancitification. When He died, I died with Him. When He was buried, my sins were buried with Him. When He arose, I arose with Him, sinless and perfect!
In the Father's eyes I am already perfect because I am in Christ Jesus. He is my wisdom, my righteousness, my redemption and my sanctification. (my perfection)
Now, as a result of that and only because of that, I am able to ~ work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure ~ (Phil 2: 12-13 )
If the Father had not already done that magnificent work in my heart at the Cross and resurrection of Christ, I would not even desire to live for Him...i.e. work towards a practical santification....
This is rest of heart, this is the true Sabbath rest, this is peace...
How could we be allowed in,unless we are totally pure?
Also,I though you said something not done till 1844,as far as when Jesus went into the Holy Place,on another thread?
I have the wrost flesh on the forum!are you saying you are pure? You don't sin or have temptations?
I disagree with you on this one. I believe that God meets us where we are in life when we come to him but loves too much to leaves us in that state- his spirit works with in us changing our hearts and minds the process of sanctification cannot come from within us by our strength but only by our willingness to allow the spirit to do His sanctifying work.
that verse from Hebrews doesn't ,as you have interpreted it, take into account men and women who at the point of conversion still struggle with their sin; such as drug addiction or pornography addiction or anything else that would be a hindrance from us to follow God.
This is how I understood it too.IF sanctification is not a one time event, then it dictates that non-sanctification continues over and over and one must be RE-sanctified...continually, over and over again.
This places sanctification SOLELY in the hands of the individual.
Sanctification is a past tense ONE TIME event:
Hebrews 10:14
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
We cannot 'make ourselves' more PERFECT than what the ONE TIME offering has already performed. The only thing that chages is our individual 'realizations' of such a thing...which technically 'never ends.' We are ALREADY PERFECT while in the process of realizing BEING PERFECTED...individually.
1 Corinthians 6:11
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Are does not change at the hands of the individual. We ARE all of the above BY THE SPIRIT of our God, and not of ourselves.
enjoy!
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This is how I understood it too.
Sanctification meaning "set apart" iirc
Or am I mistaken?
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