It need not be sexual assault to be indecent exposure.Defecation and changing clothes is not sexual assault.
isn't the movement essentially saying please consider my sexuality?
And no, it's not exactly your point. Quite the opposite. I'm denying the LGBT position at all. I personally don't have a problem with same sex bathrooms. Makes no difference to me at all. But I am saying those opposed shouldn't be railroaded by the current hot topic fueled by media whose first and foremost purpose is to find something newsworthy to fill their time slots and sell advertising. You, on the other hand, seem to be shaking your head with arms crossed at any counterpoint to your postition.
Nudity with like gonads is expected. Somebody with the wrong set is the definition of "indecent exposure."
Such incidents being repeated are the basis for a felony, even if you don't approve.
...where exposed penes do not legally belong with exposed vulvae (in a public venue).Again....it's a locker room.
It's not a big deal to me either. Other than the fact that I'm not as good looking as I used to be, I'd have no problem if we all walked around naked. But by your logic, a twenty-five year old school teacher should be allowed to teach her second grade class completely in the nude. And maybe there's nothing wrong with that, I dunno. But I'm wondering, If this occured say, tommorrow, would you be ok with it? And could you see how some people/ parents may object to this?I think we need to ask ourselves: is this truly the problem we're making it out to be, or are we just extremely delicate about seeing parts that probably should be familiar to mature, grown adults? Because whether we're talking about Trans individuals sharing bathrooms with women (the horror) or co-ed bathrooms, neither seems like a particularly major deal to me....at all.
Ringo
Of course they should be treated as equals. How is asking a man to use the men's restroom not equal?No. The "movement" is saying "Look past my sexuality and consider me as a person".
They're not being "railroaded". Gay people exist; get over it. They want to be treated as equals and they should be. If we waited around until every single "phobe", as you put it, was comfortable with LGBTQ+ we'd be waiting years until most of the Boomers died off.
I'm sure there were those who thought that they were being "railroaded" by Civil Rights sit-ins that took place in the early '60s, but Civil Rights leaders didn't wait for whites to become comfortable and not feel as though the media was finding a "hot topic"; they fought - and sometimes even died - for their rights.
Ringo
It need not be sexual assault to be indecent exposure.
assuming I am offended doesn't make anything you said valid. It did however help you avoid actually addressing anything I posted.The truth is not always what we want to hear unfortunately. Sorry if this offends you but it doesn't make it invalid.
you are just using it to promote hate and now violence against a minority.To be honest I would rather trust that God was right in his word than trust in my own 'facts' OR opinion because frankly you can find the scripture to back up.
This is the written word of God in the Holy Bible - "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.” (Leviticus 20:13 repeats this law, along with a punishment for those who violate it: “They shall be put to death; their blood is upon them.”)
I didn't write the Bible...
Maybe you should be asking SugarCookies to back up the claim about “Teaching Gay Sex to children as young as 5 in Schools as part of cirriculum”So what are you saying here, Silver Bear? I’m not entirely up to speed on the subject. Sounds like you’re saying some of @SugarCookies claims are not factual? Are they proposing “Teaching Gay Sex to children as young as 5 in Schools as part of cirriculum” or not? ‘Cuz I could see why a parent wouldn’t want this. In fact, I could see how a parent wouldn’t want any kind of sex taught at that age. I mean, I know kids are much more advanced these days but it seems to me that 5 years old would still be a time for learning how to count, and read, etc.. maybe round out the day with some coloring book time. And if they are teaching “gay sex” does this mean only gay sex? Seems to me there should be at least some “hetero” in the teachings just to make all options available.
Eating lobster is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. As are about 90 other things including Christmas trees, tattoos and poly cotton blend shirts.Why is Red Lobster an abdomination?
maybe you would do well to find out rather than assume.“Same sex toilets for children and adults. Your response “My house has two of these things....Your point?”
Yeah, but do you use it while your daughter is using it? I’m assuming the same sex bathrooms that are being proposed are similar to the dual public restrooms we currently have in that people will be entering the facility at once (I.e.- it won’t be a “wait in line” kinda thing like it would be at home).
are the reasons for opposing transgender individuals in a public bathroom reasonable? Are they any different from the reasons for racial segregated bathrooms?As I said in a previous post, I really don’t have a problem with same sex bathrooms, but it does pose the question as to why were there separate bathrooms in the first place, and whatever the reasons are, why should they suddenly now be invalid. I mean, if the reasons for separate bathrooms are reasonable, shouldn’t people who adhere to those reasons be allowed to voice their opinion on the matter?
If that were true you just lazy you wouldn't be typing out all these responses“actually when you toss around laughable claims like recruitment insensitive won't be what people are thinking about you”
So, not being up to speed on the subject (I know, I'm being lazy), I didn’t really question SugarCookies facts. You obviously disagree with SugarCookies post. Personally I don’t care if one is L,B,Q,T,G,F,R or whatever.
Was the post you saw accurate?But I saw a post with an article about how a Catholic Priest quit his parish over the idea that the LBGT flag be flown at the school (apparently there is such a flag). To me, that’s over the top. Nothing wrong with having a flag if you want to, I guess, but, imo, it really doesn’t belong on schoolgrounds any more than the local Grocery store’s flag belongs. Not the proper venue. I guess they could create a “hetero” flag (or is there one already?) to wave next to it, but that’s not really appropriate either. I’m kinda curious as to what your take on the “flag on the schoolgrounds” thing would be? I think some of these “movements” gain so much momentum via the media’s need to fill their time slot and sell advertising, that the needle at sometimes goes past the point of equality/fairness. You disagree?
Is there such a movement?If a persons sexuality is no one's concern, why is there an LGBT movement to promote same sex bathrooms?
Those, here, who claim that there is nothing wrong with coed nudity in public venues are denying that [indecent exposure*] laws exist, and that they reflect social mores at large.I mean, is this your main issue with it, a mismatch with existing laws? That can be the case when societal norms change. I doubt we would need new laws, just a clarification of existing ones? I don't know, but I don't get the sense this is the main reason for opposition to it, but maybe I'm wrong.
Of course they should be treated as equals. How is asking a man to use the men's restroom not equal?
It's not a big deal to me either. Other than the fact that I'm not as good looking as I used to be, I'd have no problem if we all walked around naked. But by your logic, a twenty-five year old school teacher should be allowed to teach her second grade class completely in the nude. And maybe there's nothing wrong with that, I dunno. But I'm wondering, If this occured say, tommorrow, would you be ok with it? And could you see how some people/ parents may object to this?
Uh-oh, wait a minute. You keep saying "transexual". Maybe we're not talking about the same thing here ( I'm not entirely up to speed on the terminology/subject). I need some clarification 'cuz I'm under the impression we're talking about non-gender locker rooms. Where men and women share the same locker room. Is this not the case?
I agree with you about non conforming, but in practice, would you take your child out of school who insists on this woke madness? If I had children I would.I agree that it's inevitable but because people are protesting against these issues the bills are not being signed faster. At the end of the day I just want to protect my offspring from the early teaching of homosexuality and no gender being acceptable. We don't teach it in churches, so it doesn't register to me that we should conform.
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