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I care... along with millions of other women about my future small children growing up being exposed to this. That is the point in the post not to bash people but the truth is it's not right.

No, the point is to bash. That's why you're using baseless "But what about the children?!" scare tactics to equate Trans individuals with harming children.
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No, the point is to bash. That's why you're using baseless "But what about the children?!" scare tactics to equate Trans individuals with harming children.
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Truth is truth. God is clear on how he hates homosexuality. It is in scripture and it goes against his design for us as humans. It corrupts marriages. It brings divorce. It messes up families the list goes on. I am not the only one preaching the truth that people are too afraid to talk about because of the LGBT community.
 
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Truth is truth. God is clear on how he hates homosexuality. It is in scripture and it goes against his design for us as humans. It corrupts marriages. It brings divorce. It messes up families the list goes on. I am not the only one preaching the truth that people are too afraid to talk about because of the LGBT community.

Nope. None of these things is true, and a person's sexuality is neither your concern nor a reason to stop same-sex bathrooms.
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No, the point is to bash. That's why you're using baseless "But what about the children?!" scare tactics to equate Trans individuals with harming children.
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The children are not an excuse it's the reality for them and the Trans community and people who have de-transitioned have spoken publicly about the children being exploited in the industry.
 
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Nope. None of these things is true, and a person's sexuality is neither your concern nor a reason to stop same-sex bathrooms.
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Okay. Thats your opinion. I'll stick with mine. Thank you.
 
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Okay. Thats your opinion. I'll stick with mine. Thank you.
You're entitled to your own facts, and not your own opinion.

Trans individuals are no more likely to harm children in the way you seem to think they do than straight men. Your entire rationale is bigotry masked in "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but the children!" disingenuousness.
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You're entitled to your own facts, and not your own opinion.

Trans individuals are no more likely to harm children in the way you seem to think they do than straight men. Your entire rationale is bigotry masked in "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but the children!" disingenuousness.
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HIV is really a problem.
 
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So is ignorance, but I don't see false concern over children having to live with parents who watch OAN or Fox News. For some reason, the fault is always with "the gays".
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You're entitled to your own facts, and not your own opinion.

Trans individuals are no more likely to harm children in the way you seem to think they do than straight men. Your entire rationale is bigotry masked in "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but the children!" disingenuousness.
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To be honest I would rather trust that God was right in his word than trust in my own 'facts' OR opinion because frankly you can find the scripture to back up.

This is the written word of God in the Holy Bible - "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.” (Leviticus 20:13 repeats this law, along with a punishment for those who violate it: “They shall be put to death; their blood is upon them.”)


I didn't write the Bible...
 
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It is 12am here in the UK. We don't have fox news. I barely watch secular TV tbh.

I may remove the post on the basis of the energy may be used better elsewhere. As stated it was not an attack but a freedom of speech in which I stated the truth. I may not have addressed it gently (I said that at the start) but I would rather remove it if it is genuinely upsetting people who have a problem with homosexual sin.

The aim was to raise awareness of what is happening and the reality of it.
 
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It is 12am here in the UK. We don't have fox news. I barely watch secular TV tbh.

I may remove the post on the basis of the energy may be used better elsewhere. As stated it was not an attack but a freedom of speech in which I stated the truth. I may not have addressed it gently (I said that at the start) but I would rather remove it if it is genuinely upsetting people who have a problem with homosexual sin.

The aim was to raise awareness of what is happening and the reality of it.
I believe that I am not the only one who holds these views and I hope I find more people who I can group with to protect my children and keep my own rights to a private bathroom and safety for my family. That is the main thing.
 
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This may not be formed very well but I hope that whoever reads this can see that this is not an attack on homosexuality or the transgender individuals but it a strong concern that the movements that are taking place are corrupting our human nature.

We are living in a time where things are changing. Political correctness is more important than love. A majority of the world has become cold and clinical like a barking dog on a chain. The LGBT movement is advertised as 'Love, Peace and Acceptance' with bright colours and cotton candy, the allurement of glitter and freedom so that when the time comes for their agenda to play out we are unaware of it happening slowly lulled into a false sense of safety for our future generations. You may think I'm being overly dramatic or poetic but the truth is this is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord.

Same sex toilets for children and adults.
Teaching Gay Sex to children as young as 5 in Schools as part of cirriculum.
Removal of 'Male' and 'Female' (Literally, there is a bill that has been made by the transgender movement to remove these words from the dictionary and change their meaning)
Pronouns made mandatory (Google pronouns Jordan Peterson, however you view the man he had some things to say about the topic)

Gender-Neutral Bathrooms: Pointless, Wasteful, and Sexist | National Review

This is from a post about a recent protest in Arizona "Senate Bill 1456 would require parents to opt their child into sex education classes, rather than the long-standing practice of having them opt out. It also would forbid any form of sex education before fifth grade."

Parents, LQBTQ supporters push Gov. Ducey to veto 'extreme' sex-ed bill

Anti-transgender bills are latest version of conservatives' longtime strategy to rally their base

Our biological makeup was designed to reproduce fruitful offspring. That's it, that is the main purpose of our existence. If 30-40% of the population start to become homosexual or bisexual or whatever name you want to put on it then the enemy knows this and his number one way to ensure that we don't re-produce is to corrupt the very nature of what our bodies were intended for. When you look at it from a spiritual perspective you see there is a much deeper thing going on.

If I seem angry in this post it's because I am. Right now there are legal battles all over the world taking place over new legislation against the transgender movement that is brainwashing our nations. Call me homophobic, call me trans-phobic but this is not a personal attack on the humanity of those people; it's the fact that it is removing our natural human rights and dehumanising our genders. It's just the beginning.

Those on the extreme left wing will see this post as hateful, conservative and cruel but the truth is the media and the government are nothing but wolves in sheeps clothing.


Gender neutral toilets now an option for new schools

Friends and relatives outside in all weathers in protests, public activism and groups coming together to stop the recruitment of children into the LGBT community. They are saying that we should have a choice in what happens to our children, to protect women's rights, protect men's rights and to stop the dehumanisation of our human rights. I feel strongly that we are slowly allowing this transition to happen while undermining the ability this movement has to harm our future generations. There are plans to have same gender sex taught in schools to children as young as age 5. The plans for same sex bathrooms are already being leaked out to the public and presented to see how we will react.

Most people who read this and have transgender relatives or even children will think I am insensitive but the fact is that this is not right.

I cannot accept the thought that my offspring will be soaking up this information like a sponge and I will sit there and do nothing about it? No. I will fight for my rights. I will fight to keep the bathrooms private. I am not an advocate of protesting against the government unless necessary but I will join the protest and I will support the cause if I have to.

We need to stand in the gap and we need to ask the Lord to help us. Things are going to get crazy real soon...

What do you do when you go to the bathroom? I use it and leave. There could be ten transsexuals in there and I would never know it. I don't care because I don't go to the bathroom to share moments with others. If you're afraid that bad people might do bad things, I can assure you they will. But that's true regardless of the image on the door of the bathroom. Bad people do bad things.

Did you say adults going to the bathroom with children! Aghast! Happens all the time. When I was a child my mother would take me in the woman's bathroom to pee. No shenanigans happened. I peed.

Sex and bathrooms. The prime concerns of Christians!
 
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Truth is truth. God is clear on how he hates homosexuality. It is in scripture and it goes against his design for us as humans. It corrupts marriages. It brings divorce. It messes up families the list goes on. I am not the only one preaching the truth that people are too afraid to talk about because of the LGBT community.

I understand your concern and agree that these sexual behaviors are sinful. I go back and forth with a friend who cannot even enjoy a beautiful rainbow anymore. I just try not to judge others who aren't in my circle. I recall Jesus asking whoever is without sin can cast the first stone at the prostitute. Everyone left. If you teach your kids right from wrong, they will learn. I think maybe the gay/trans issue tests our capacity to love and tolerate as much as it possibly teaches those who live alternative lifestyles. I love my gay nephew. I don't think he's any worse sinner than most of us. Yet it isn't for me to judge, only warn him to repent. I'm not saying it's true, but perhaps some are born that way. We are not made to understand God's plan for everything. This is an interesting subject and I agree with you that these issues need discussion. Thanks for sharing this thread and enjoy your weekend. Peace
 
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it sure reads like an attack

what agenda?



So is this

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My house has two of these things....Your point?

Yeah right

Can you cite the actual legislation?

i don't think you want to go there

its far more likely that 30-40% of white people will suddenly decide change their skin color

you do know that gay and bisexual people reproduce don't you?

Why?


OK.
OK

I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that if someone was saying this stuff about you that you would call it a personal attack.
you put it in bold....must be true

is that because it is?

actually when you toss around laughable claims like recruitment insensitive won't be what people are thinking about you

soon?
So what are you saying here, Silver Bear? I’m not entirely up to speed on the subject. Sounds like you’re saying some of @SugarCookies claims are not factual? Are they proposing “Teaching Gay Sex to children as young as 5 in Schools as part of cirriculum” or not? ‘Cuz I could see why a parent wouldn’t want this. In fact, I could see how a parent wouldn’t want any kind of sex taught at that age. I mean, I know kids are much more advanced these days but it seems to me that 5 years old would still be a time for learning how to count, and read, etc.. maybe round out the day with some coloring book time. And if they are teaching “gay sex” does this mean only gay sex? Seems to me there should be at least some “hetero” in the teachings just to make all options available.

Why is Red Lobster an abdomination?

“Same sex toilets for children and adults. Your response “My house has two of these things....Your point?”

Yeah, but do you use it while your daughter is using it? I’m assuming the same sex bathrooms that are being proposed are similar to the dual public restrooms we currently have in that people will be entering the facility at once (I.e.- it won’t be a “wait in line” kinda thing like it would be at home). As I said in a previous post, I really don’t have a problem with same sex bathrooms, but it does pose the question as to why were there separate bathrooms in the first place, and whatever the reasons are, why should they suddenly now be invalid. I mean, if the reasons for separate bathrooms are reasonable, shouldn’t people who adhere to those reasons be allowed to voice their opinion on the matter?

“actually when you toss around laughable claims like recruitment insensitive won't be what people are thinking about you”

So, not being up to speed on the subject (I know, I'm being lazy), I didn’t really question SugarCookies facts. You obviously disagree with SugarCookies post. Personally I don’t care if one is L,B,Q,T,G,F,R or whatever. But I saw a post with an article about how a Catholic Priest quit his parish over the idea that the LBGT flag be flown at the school (apparently there is such a flag). To me, that’s over the top. Nothing wrong with having a flag if you want to, I guess, but, imo, it really doesn’t belong on schoolgrounds any more than the local Grocery store’s flag belongs. Not the proper venue. I guess they could create a “hetero” flag (or is there one already?) to wave next to it, but that’s not really appropriate either. I’m kinda curious as to what your take on the “flag on the schoolgrounds” thing would be? I think some of these “movements” gain so much momentum via the media’s need to fill their time slot and sell advertising, that the needle at sometimes goes past the point of equality/fairness. You disagree?
 
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What do you do when you go to the bathroom? I use it and leave. There could be ten transsexuals in there and I would never know it.
Not true for locker rooms, which is a down-played package deal.
 
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Not true for locker rooms, which is a down-played package deal.

Still, it's the same thing. What do you do in a locker room? I get changed to workout or participate in some sport. What I'm not doing is checking out everybody's particulars. I don't care if they're a man or a newly minted one. I don't care. Why do you?
 
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Nope. None of these things is true, and a person's sexuality is neither your concern nor a reason to stop same-sex bathrooms.
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If a persons sexuality is no one's concern, why is there an LGBT movement to promote same sex bathrooms? Again, I personally wouldn't have a problem with same sex bathrooms but also don't have a problem with those who are against it. Your comment seems one sided to me. I think you're correct on the surface in saying "a person's sexuality is not your concern", but when a group of people are essentially saying "please take note of my sexuality and here's the changes I want made to accomodate my sexuality" then it becomes a concern. Some people, for whatever reasons-some of them sexual I would guess- may not be comfortable with same-sex bathrooms. What's wrong with that?

Edit: Btw, I don't disagree with the "none of these things is true" portion of your comment. SugarCookies does seem to be professing the darkest of outcomes in this.
 
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Most trans-[people?] have not transitioned. Your point is academic.

Well, I've never really looked, so you might be right. I just don't think this is the bane and downfall of human existence that it's put out as. We're talking about using the bathroom. There's nothing decent about it. It's crappy business, so let's just do it wherever the designated spot is and get on with things that truly matter.
 
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Still, it's the same thing. What do you do in a locker room? I get changed to workout or participate in some sport. What I'm not doing is checking out everybody's particulars. I don't care if they're a man or a newly minted one. I don't care. Why do you?
I dunno, if there's some good looking women in there I might sneak a peek. Might even see if I can get a locker next to one of 'em.
 
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