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Of course this is correct - until He appeared to them in human form.
Well he ain't human anymore, is he? Why would he appear to anyone as he isn't. Did you examine your vision for inconsistencies? Did Jesus look like the modern reinvention the Church has painted him in today? Did you reach out and touch him? Did anyone else witness what you witnessed along side of you? Shouldn't your testimony of these events be verified by two/three other witnesses?
 
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He is both human and divine. Thomas could put his his finger in the holes in His hands. At 8 you don't question what you see and I was alone. The experience has helped shape my life journey to Him - it is what it is.
 
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He is both human and divine. Thomas could put his his finger in the holes in His hands. At 8 you don't question what you see and I was alone. The experience has helped shape my life journey to Him - it is what it is.
"Flesh and bone do not inherit the kingdom of God" So what physical form appeared before you, Carl? You need much much more than experiences when understanding truth.
 
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Yes I agree, it has been a long journey.
I don't think it's worth talking to you anymore Carl. You don't seem interested in being prepared with answering any of my questions so far. I would certainly be a fool if I accepted the experience of an 8 year old boy as evidence for my saviour.

As it is written. "If the light you think you have is really darkness, then how deep that darkness will be"
 
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The light has no image. If you examine the Old Testament without bias, you will find that the Jewish people didn't create images of their God.
Daniel 7:9
“I kept looking
Until thrones were set up,
And the Ancient of Days took His seat;
His vesture was like white snow
And the hair of His head like pure wool.
His throne was ablaze with flames,
Its wheels were a burning fire.
10 “A river of fire was flowing
And coming out from before Him;
Thousands upon thousands were attending Him,
And myriads upon myriads were standing before Him;
The court sat,
And the books were opened.
.....
13 “I kept looking in the night visions,
And behold, with the clouds of heaven
One like a Son of Man was coming,
And He came up to the Ancient of Days
And was presented before Him.
14 “And to Him was given dominion,
Glory and a kingdom,
That all the peoples, nations and men of every language
Might serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion
Which will not pass away;
And His kingdom is one
Which will not be destroyed.


I dunno - sounds like a pretty clear image to me.
 
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Daniel 7:9
“I kept looking
Until thrones were set up,
And the Ancient of Days took His seat;
His vesture was like white snow
And the hair of His head like pure wool.
His throne was ablaze with flames,
Its wheels were a burning fire.
10 “A river of fire was flowing
And coming out from before Him;
Thousands upon thousands were attending Him,
And myriads upon myriads were standing before Him;
The court sat,
And the books were opened.
.....
13 “I kept looking in the night visions,
And behold, with the clouds of heaven
One like a Son of Man was coming,
And He came up to the Ancient of Days
And was presented before Him.
14 “And to Him was given dominion,
Glory and a kingdom,
That all the peoples, nations and men of every language
Might serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion
Which will not pass away;
And His kingdom is one
Which will not be destroyed.


I dunno - sounds like a pretty clear image to me.
John 4:24
24God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.
 
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The OP was looking for an OT reference to what "the Light" aka God looked like.
I hope he understands the Jewish mindset of those time's, because that will come in handy when arguing semantics.
 
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I am at a loss as to what is actually going on here. Aren't Intros simply a place to say hello and introduce yourself? This thread didn't just take a strange turn, rather it started there and quickly continued its descent. So odd.

Just sayin'.
 
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I am at a loss as to what is actually going on here. Aren't Intros simply a place to say hello and introduce yourself? This thread didn't just take a strange turn, rather it started there and quickly continued its descent. So odd.

Just sayin'.
Just saying? Or Just judging?
 
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Judging. You are right.

I will chalk it up to my not sleeping well lately. Filter's all but gone. Sorry.
I am living in psychoville at the moment, so I never know when I'll get sleep.
 
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You are for sure full of it.

And now we are on the same page.
Jesus teaches that I should return blessings for curses. But if I do that, will you just scoff at me more?
 
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I am done.

Play with the others.
I am not playing games here. I am trying to ascertain why you are being critical instead of turning the other cheek. Do you remember the parable of the seed that grew up to a point, but became choked out by some malicious weeds?

Well? Is that where you are now?

It's not the world that is dragging you down, it's people.
 
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