MichaelFJF
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After the last couple of years, the UN is not a measuring stick of anything. The fact that they hesitated only shows they are incapable of action. M
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forgive me for being sceptical alonesoldier, but 3 million? sources. Are you sure that doesn't include the million children that died at a result of the US imposed UN sanctions?
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alonesoldier
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My flip flopping? I contend it was for all of the above, and only Saddam Hussein apologist try to dodge the numbers.
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when the war started was anyone thinking of this as a war to save iraq? all i heard were threats.
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MichaelFJF
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Hmmm - and what was the name of the operation again? I think they name 'em before they start 'em. Mwatt said:
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have you ever thought of what if they had passed the second resolution based on WMDs and invaded Iraq?MichaelFJF said:
And WMDs are never found?
Would the UN ever be able to pass another resolution in a similar situation again?
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The United Nations lost it's cred along time ago.. you think something else would have made it worse? They played the part of Saddams harlot for 12 years, what could have made that worse? What were they waiting for sweeps week to stop him. lol
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I'm sorry but very explicit in the UN charter is that the UN cannot infringe on the right of soveriegn nations to manage their own internal affairs.alonesoldier said:The United Nations lost it's cred along time ago.. you think something else would have made it worse? They played the part of Saddams harlot for 12 years, what could have made that worse? What were they waiting for sweeps week to stop him. lol
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In other words...
If anyone sincerly believes that then they don't deserve freedom.
If anyone sincerly believes that then they don't deserve freedom.
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alonesoldier said:
do you want to know why the UN was set up so it can't manage the internal affairs of sovereign countries?
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No, I don't care to hear for your reasoning for leaving Saddam Hussein in power. I'm not in the mood for your lawyering, but it's a free country, just don't expect me to respond to some inane reference to international law to justify genocide.
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alonesoldier said:
I thought we were discussing why it wasn't the UN's job to interfere in the internal affairs of a sovereign country?
How did it turn to I'm defending genocide and Saddam?
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It's typical of the pro-war psycos to ignore international law and discredit the body that makes decisions on it.
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oops sorry, i meant to say
It's typical of the pro-war, ex military, gun toten, trigger happy, but completely sane people to ignore international law and discredit the body that makes decisions on it.
It's typical of the pro-war, ex military, gun toten, trigger happy, but completely sane people to ignore international law and discredit the body that makes decisions on it.
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Except that to spend the 3.5 trillion, we have to suck every drop of oil out of the ground in Iraq. Is that what you insinuate we are going to do?sedders said:
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