Saddam Captured

[datan]

I just KNEW that SOME people would be a little upset when our military caught up with Saddam.

and who might you be referring to?

 

[datan]

I think this quote from my pastor sums things up nicely for me.

your pastor has no business mixing politics with religion.

 

[datan]

I would like to thank all the Bush-bashers who have posted on this thread for revealing their true selves. They are so blind to their hatred of the president that they cannot bring themselves to celebrate the capture of one of the worst lunatics on the planet. Oh well, you don't need to apologize for this mistake. The joke's on you, because we're celebrating some of the best news that has come from Iraq in months, and you're not going to experience the fun!

how do you know what we think?

I'm glad he is captured, but I'm not going to pretend that this war was over human rights.

 

[MichaelFJF]

your pastor has no business mixing politics with religion.

If you believe in God, He belongs everywhere. M

 

[Phileo]

Hello. Just poking me nose in.

It is good that Saddam has been captured and arrested and will be tried in front of his countrymen which wihtout a doubt he has been found guilty already.

Although I don't agree with war, one of the things that disarmed me with the nature of the first post is that SOME americans tend to forget that in almost every major post war conflict ('cept Vietnam) the British have been right up there fighting along side. Indeed Tony Blair has in many respects - even to the detriment of his stance in the UK - been "evangelising" for the entrance into Iraq and in many respects has pursued a damage limitation exercise in a world that was increasingly becoming anti_American.

Personally I hope that like the other murderers before him like David and Saul that God can melt his heart, so that like all other sinners he can have a taste of true power and freedom, that only the Holy Ghost can provide. By all means I am sure that most people want to see him tortured, shot or whatever but just in my walk with Jesus I am sure that he wants, if he has not started yet, to see Saddam turn his twisted soul back to him.

To be honest it makes no difference if the UK or USA see themselves as Christian nations, which to be honest is a bit strange as they both pride themselves on nations which are founded on divorcing religion from politics, and as we know nations in the name of Christianity have twisted the gospel before, but we still have hope that now the people of Iraq can now move forward without the threat of the Baa'thist regime overshadowing them. Let us pray that the Christians also which enjoyed some of the best freedoms in the Middle East second only to Israel are now not subject to extreme Muslim fundamentalism in the majority Sunni's or Shi'ites which dominate the current post-war Iraqui landscape.

Just my thoughts. From the little country over the pond!

Praise God for this post! I agree! I do not think anyone is sorry that this man has been caught (what a ludicrous statement) I like you stand not democratic/republican/liberal/conservative.

Before all things I am a Christian... does Christ Love Saddam?... and if He does, must I?... and if I do will I pray for his salvation?

WWJD? (I gather He did it already... He laid down His life for this man and even the entire world.)

 

[Blemonds]

lets just say a lot more that saddam, but of course those deaths were in the name of freedom, peace, justice and the American way.

Any particular reason you never have any real answers. You always come up with "How Mnay", "a whole bunch" What if" but nothing of any substance. Just wondering why?

 

[Blemonds]

, but I'm not going to pretend that this war was over human rights.

Because you refuse to acknowledge the truths that I posted for you. I don't blame you because then you's have to eat your words

 

[Blemonds]

your pastor has no business mixing politics with religion.

You have no business telling his pastor what he can say

 

[datan]

Because you refuse to acknowledge the truths that I posted for you. I don't blame you because then you's have to eat your words

look--all you've posted are statements by Bush administration officials talking about Iraqi liberation.

But we know that actions speak louder than words.

Other than Iraq, what other countries are on the list for 'liberation'?

What happened to Liberia -- the one where Bush had such a great opportunity to show the world about freedom?

If human rights was really the issue, why was the main justification through the whole of last year about WMD?

 

[Blemonds]

look--all you've posted are statements by Bush administration officials talking about Iraqi liberation.

But we know that actions speak louder than words.

Other than Iraq, what other countries are on the list for 'liberation'?

What happened to Liberia -- the one where Bush had such a great opportunity to show the world about freedom?

If human rights was really the issue, why was the main justification through the whole of last year about WMD?

Here we go with the bob and weave routine again. You claimed that there was no talk about liberating the Iraqi people until after the war started and no WMD were found. I gave you QUOTES including links to prove you were wrong. And the best you can say is yeah but he didn't really mean it and what about Liberia. You've been bested again you should just admit you were wrong.

 

[The Story Teller]

And all God's Children can sleep better tonight...

 

[sedders]

Blemonds, the US has killed more people than Saddam. If you need some annonomous guy on the internet to 'prove' this to you then you really are ignorant to world events and history. Secondly, Saddams war with Iran that killed about 1 million people was with US support.

I guess the 'substance' you are looking for is what I would assume most people already know. I guess they teach history different in the US, or perhaps your time in the military has taught you that when the US military kills someone, it is a good thing, because they are the enemy, if their a civilian, its just collatoral damage. You can probably name all the great battles in your civil war but cant tell me how many people died in hiroshima or vietnam.

 

[Blemonds]

Blemonds, the US has killed more people than Saddam. If you need some annonomous guy on the internet to 'prove' this to you then you really are ignorant to world events and history. Secondly, Saddams war with Iran that killed about 1 million people was with US support.

I guess the 'substance' you are looking for is what I would assume most people already know. I guess they teach history different in the US, or perhaps your time in the military has taught you that when the US military kills someone, it is a good thing, because they are the enemy, if their a civilian, its just collatoral damage. You can probably name all the great battles in your civil war but cant tell me how many people died in hiroshima or vietnam.

I guess you don't want to answer the question. Can't blame you I suppose

 

[the_malevolent_milk_man]

Sedders, I think he meant just in Iraq.

 

[sedders]

Why do you read posts and interpret them as though they said something completely different? If we purchased every drop of oil that Iraq could produce, it would cost less in dollars than it has cost us to operate the war. Moreover, it would have cost immeasurably less in the cost of lives. It's a simply math formula to check my claims.

112 billion barrels x $US32 per barrel = $3.5 trillion

 

[ddlewis86]

Blemonds, the US has killed more people than Saddam. If you need some annonomous guy on the internet to 'prove' this to you then you really are ignorant to world events and history. Secondly, Saddams war with Iran that killed about 1 million people was with US support.

I guess the 'substance' you are looking for is what I would assume most people already know. I guess they teach history different in the US, or perhaps your time in the military has taught you that when the US military kills someone, it is a good thing, because they are the enemy, if their a civilian, its just collatoral damage. You can probably name all the great battles in your civil war but cant tell me how many people died in hiroshima or vietnam.

What EXACTLY is the number of people the United States has killed since you seem to be such an expert on the subject? The United States has been the aggressor in HOW MANY WARS??? Last time I checked we were either defending ourselves or freeing OTHER nations. Talk about gratitude.

Why do you hate the United States of America? Is it the common "no body likes a winner" syndrome?

 

[sedders]

thanks milk man, but he asked "how many?" in response to my question "how many deaths has the US president, the CIA and US military been responsible for?"

The exact numbers are hard to find, especially for the CIA with their "covert operations" during the cold war. However we know that the US holds the world record for most number of deaths from one bomb - 155,200 died in Hiroshima according to Guinness. We also know that the Vietnam War, which would have been a small coup by the communist had the US not stepped, killed around 2 million people.

I know i cant answer blemonds question (how many?) thats why i asked it first, but these two events i think prove my point. That the US has commited despicable acts, perhaps even war crimes but it will never come to justice and will continue to evade international law.

So I ask again, When will the American people judge their own actions as much as they do everyone elses?

 

[sedders]

What EXACTLY is the number of people the United States has killed since you seem to be such an expert on the subject? The United States has been the aggressor in HOW MANY WARS??? Last time I checked we were either defending ourselves or freeing OTHER nations. Talk about gratitude.

Why do you hate the United States of America? Is it the common "no body likes a winner" syndrome?

take a chill pill dd. I dont hate America. I dont even hate people who think that America has such I clean histroy when compareed to Saddam, i just think they're wrong.

I dont know EXACTLY how many people the US has killed, just as you dont know EXACTLY how many people saddam has killed.

I do know that your definition of being an "aggressor" is different to mine (and international law). An aggressor is the one who throws the first punch.

The US was the aggressor in Iraq, Vietnam, Cuba, Panama... just to name a few. By saying that you are "freeing" them may make you feel good, but it doesn't hide the fact that you've thrown the first punch and that your reasons are more than for the concern for their people or your self defence.

 

[sedders]

One more thing DDLewis, I just noticed that you said you were at the 91 Gulf War and then go on to suspect what people are taught in history these days. I doubt that War History 101 is taught in the US military. I doubt that when you were marched into iraq that you were told about how the invation of Kuwait started.

Were you told that 8 days before saddam invaded Kuwait, US Ambassador April Glaspie met with saddam, and basically said that the US had no problem with Iraq invading Kuwait?

http://www.mideastfacts.com/saddam_glaspie.html

 

[Blemonds]

112 billion barrels x $US32 per barrel = $3.5 trillion

Are you seriously insinuating that Bush is going to go in and take 112 billion gallons of oil out of Iraq? Where do you think he plans to store it, in Crawford , Texas?