Sabbath was made for man

[from scratch]

The slaves needed mercy; so they were shown mercy. Why did G-d hate Esau? Did Esau do what you are trying to do Israel?

His choice since this was so from the womb.

 

[from scratch]

The church is the church.



G-d hates evil, contrary to popular oppinion, G-d did not create Satan. On which day did G-d create Satan?



Satan is like a bad tree that can not bear good fruit, so thus, G-d did NOT plant Satan in his garden.

Talk about hogwash.

 

[Gibs]

So if one doesn't worship on Saturday they're heathen without God. Any time you want to stop declaring your church is The Church is fine with me. Such activity is only evidence of being a controlling cult promoting itself.

You are assessing my statement wrong, His Church is not mine, I am only one of the living stones in it. The Church He built is His and His only and only He can build His Church and NO man can build Him His Church!

1Co 3:16 ¶ Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

 

[mercy1061]

Talk about hogwash.

Are you washing or cleaning unclean meat agin?

 

[VictorC]

No, EX 31:13 don't do nothing of the kind as they were mankind and it happened Moses was sent to Israel and the program was to go to all other groups of the posterity of Adam. It finally did but Satan keeps men from the truth of things.

Of course this is all made up conjecture, contrary to the testimony of the Law itself. Exodus 31:16 specifies the Sabbath as a covenant made exclusively with the children of Israel, and it doesn't exist outside that limited jurisdiction. You had already admitted the Sabbath depends on the Law to exist:

VictorC,

The new covenant did not take away the Sabbath from the law

Congratulations! The Sabbath remained firmly entrenched in the Law that ordained it.
You have now arrived at the conclusion wherein the Sabbath suffered the same disposition God determined for the Mosaic covenant (aka 'the Law'). It was taken away; The Judaic believers are delivered from the Mosaic covenant (Romans 7:6-7), and the Gentile believers were instructed to cast off the covenant from Mount Sinai (Galatians 4:21-31). We have entered into God's rest, and the periodic Sabbath has no further purpose after driving us to faith in our Redeemer.

Now you're contradicting yourself, adding to your practice of directly contradicting what God Spoke.

 

[VictorC]

Yes Scratch that is strange as I remember Jesus saying He did and I choose to believe Him!

You took one sound bite wherein Jesus expressed His divinity, and postulate a meaning that Jesus is in violation of the Law He spoke into existence. The meaning you want to affix to Mark 2:27 is obviously wrong, as Jesus doesn't contradict Jesus. What you choose to believe is not from Jesus.

 

[VictorC]

His Church, Eklesia, or "My Church" as He called it continue to this day keeping the Holy Sabbath day!

Well, after establishing your continued violation of the Sabbath, where does this leave you? Let's not forget your admission that your unholy rendition of the Sabbath doesn't exist:

I am glad that commandment don't exist because my God is Love and Good and requests nothing of us that is unholy!

That's what I told you in my very first post to you yesterday. I feel so... what's the word? ... vindicated. You have no reason to keep something noncompliant with the Law that ordained it, nor do you have any reason to rail on those of us grateful for God's redemption from the former code that estranged us apart from Him.

The content of your posts demand that we question your old-covenant pretense of "christianity", and your claim to even be a Christian. Denying Christ's redemption reenforces our questioning your claim to be a member of Christ's church.

 

[from scratch]

You are assessing my statement wrong, His Church is not mine, I am only one of the living stones in it. The Church He built is His and His only and only He can build His Church and NO man can build Him His Church!

1Co 3:16 ¶ Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

Nice confession with which I agree. Not many catch what you posted.

 

[from scratch]

Naw did washout my pea cup yesterday though.

 

[from scratch]

Well, after establishing your continued violation of the Sabbath, where does this leave you? Let's not forget your admission that your unholy rendition of the Sabbath doesn't exist:

The content of your posts demand that we question your old-covenant pretense of "christianity", and your claim to even be a Christian. Denying Christ's redemption reenforces our questioning your claim to be a member of Christ's church.

I thought he confessed that in his post about His Church.

 

[VictorC]

I thought he confessed that in his post about His Church.

Capitalizing 'His' denotes divinity, And Gibs' claim to be a part of His church is at best a pompous claim that is easily dismissed. Most of the posts have devolved into personal comments on members of the forum, which is a natural end when content isn't addressed. I pointed out what I saw in Gibs' posts last week:

Let me tell you what I see as the casual observer: I see someone who has gotten a notion and reduced the Bible to a small collection of sound-bites in an effort to insert your notion into the Bible. However, it doesn't fit at all once you gain a better knowledge of the Bible's contents and learn the Gospel from the inspired authors. You've contradicted more than you can find for support, and there isn't a first-year seminary student alive who couldn't shred you to kitty litter in twenty minutes flat. Old-covenant "christianity" remains a oxymoron inside your tortured imagination, and you didn't get it from Scrpture.

Scripture remains the Standard for determining what we should retain, and what we should discard when comments are made which are irreconcilable with Scripture. Take for example the points several of us have shown Gibs, wherein Exodus 31 specifies who the Sabbath pertained to. Gibs has never addressed his penchant to contradict the Law, and can't provide any defense for his beliefs. Consider him kitty litter.

 

[from scratch]

Capitalizing 'His' denotes divinity, And Gibs' claim to be a part of His church is at best a pompous claim that is easily dismissed. Most of the posts have devolved into personal comments on members of the forum, which is a natural end when content isn't addressed. I pointed out what I saw in Gibs' posts last week:

Scripture remains the Standard for determining what we should retain, and what we should discard when comments are made which are irreconcilable with Scripture. Take for example the points several of us have shown Gibs, wherein Exodus 31 specifies who the Sabbath pertained to. Gibs has never addressed his penchant to contradict the Law, and can't provide any defense for his beliefs. Consider him kitty litter.

Normally when one says what Gibs said they are saying they're not part of a particular church. Being he capped His in the statement this would mean to me he isn't part of God's Church. If it weren't for Gibs posting history I might say it was plain just sloppy writing without thinking about what he wrote. I see no correction either by edit (which is to late) or by some explanation.

 

[Gibs]

Normally when one says what Gibs said they are saying they're not part of a particular church. Being he capped His in the statement this would mean to me he isn't part of God's Church. If it weren't for Gibs posting history I might say it was plain just sloppy writing without thinking about what he wrote. I see no correction either by edit (which is to late) or by some explanation.

Yes I do always use a capital letter when writing Him or His when in reference to God or Christ. That I do in Reverence to the one so great us little finite ones cannot come close to fathoming how Great the Infinite One is!

And on the point of His Church any can come and be in it, the only requirement is the worship must be in Spirit and in Truth. If any error is entertained He will not be in it and then it is just a social gathering.

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him MUSTworship him in spirit and in truth.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Naw did washout my pea cup yesterday though.

How often do ya use it?


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[BobRyan]

No, EX 31:13 don't do nothing of the kind as they were mankind and it happened Moses was sent to Israel and the program was to go to all other groups of the posterity of Adam.

That is true.

Israel was to evangelize the world.

And Israel was part of "mankind" so anything for mankind - was also for Israel.

Yet that is not enough for God - he tells us outright "The Sabbath was made for MANKIND" Mark 2:27 and "From Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship" Is 66:23.

I think we all knew that by now.

Certainly the pro-Sunday groups listed below - knew it.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[from scratch]

Yes I do always use a capital letter when writing Him or His when in reference to God or Christ. That I do in Reverence to the one so great us little finite ones cannot come close to fathoming how Great the Infinite One is!

And on the point of His Church any can come and be in it, the only requirement is the worship must be in Spirit and in Truth. If any error is entertained He will not be in it and then it is just a social gathering.

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him MUSTworship him in spirit and in truth.

What are you calling worshipping in spirit and truth?

 

[from scratch]

How often do ya use it?


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At least twice a week.


















pea cup is a mispronunciation of pick up. I picked the local vocalization in New Mexico where they say you drive a nice pea cup, man.

I just washed out the back of it a couple days ago and woke up to 4 inches of rain. Gotta wash it out more often. No I ain;t gonna wash the whole thing. Might get 8 inches of rain.

 

[from scratch]

That is true.

Israel was to evangelize the world.

And Israel was part of "mankind" so anything for mankind - was also for Israel.

Yet that is not enough for God - he tells us outright "The Sabbath was made for MANKIND" Mark 2:27 and "From Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship" Is 66:23.

I think we all knew that by now.

Certainly the pro-Sunday groups listed below - knew it.

in Christ,

Bob

On what do you base Israel was to evangelize the world?

And from ....to still doesn't mean on.

 

[VictorC]

You took one sound bite wherein Jesus expressed His divinity, and postulate a meaning that Jesus is in violation of the Law He spoke into existence. The meaning you want to affix to Mark 2:27 is obviously wrong, as Jesus doesn't contradict Jesus. What you choose to believe is not from Jesus.

And on the point of His Church any can come and be in it, the only requirement is the worship must be in Spirit and in Truth. If any error is entertained He will not be in it and then it is just a social gathering.

When you devote your posts to error, do you think this encourages others to approve of your social gathering?

BTW, I saw that you contributed a post to the traditional Adventist congregational forum. According to the rules governing that subforum, only Adventists are allowed to participate on it. You may as well drop the pretense.

 

[VictorC]

That is true.

No, that is false. If you don't believe what the Law states in clear language spoken by the Living God, it follows that you certainly don't abide by it.