Sabbath was made for man

[Gibs]

I was referencing your commentary and not the irrelevant passage with it.

All passages are relevant when kept to the subject and some try to draw in ones that don't to draw folks away from the truth of the matter,

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

That verse is a Gem that all need heed!

 

[Gibs]

You can try to manipulate me with fear about the judgment all you want. I read this in my Bible and believe it -

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Believeth there runs much deeper in meaning than most have comprehended.

It must not be a superficial belief, it must be a belief that from the heart and of love that we put sin out of our lives.

The evil one knows when he sees Christ dwelling in one and that one is committed of heart to follow the LORD Jesus Christ, he knows he is a defeated foe.

The devils believe and tremble but that believe is not the believe that does His will.

His will for us must be our pleasure and that is faith that works from love.

Ro 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

 

[from scratch]

All passages are relevant when kept to the subject and some try to draw in ones that don't to draw folks away from the truth of the matter,

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

That verse is a Gem that all need heed!

Personally I couldn't put your commentary and the passage you quoted together.

I understand your intent of the above quote from Timothy and I ask you why don't accept the all the Bible as written? Genesis to Revelation is called the Scripture in Christian circles of influence and given by God if you believe your quote above.

 

[Gibs]

Personally I couldn't put your commentary and the passage you quoted together.

I understand your intent of the above quote from Timothy and I ask you why don't accept the all the Bible as written? Genesis to Revelation is called the Scripture in Christian circles of influence and given by God if you believe your quote above.

Goodness you should not have any trouble with that one. I do accept all the scripture and I know that all don't rightly divide and assemble passages rightly from the different Prophets and this is where His Spirit of Truth comes in and without Him we can do nothing, and that includes rightly Deciphering His Word.

This is such a wonderful promise all should make sure they have surrendered all that they are to Him that he may come in and take up abode in the soul temple.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Yes He even let's us know what is coming!

 

[from scratch]

Believeth there runs much deeper in meaning than most have comprehended.

What are you suggesting here?

It must not be a superficial belief, it must be a belief that from the heart and of love that we put sin out of our lives.

OK I'll buy that. Now I said I believe the verse. From both of your above statements I gather you're saying my belief is superficial or nothing more than mere acknowledgement. Essentially your saying that I don't believe the posted verse to be true. I think the fact is you don't accept the posted verse for yourself. I wager you believe in the IJ.

The evil one knows when he sees Christ dwelling in one and that one is committed of heart to follow the LORD Jesus Christ, he knows he is a defeated foe.

Swell

The devils believe and tremble but that believe is not the believe that does His will.

I'm guessing you're comparing me to the devils because I said I believe. Do you want to make a clear statement?

His will for us must be our pleasure and that is faith that works from love.

Ro 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Great, how does this verse apply to my statement of belief?

 

[from scratch]

Goodness you should not have any trouble with that one. I do accept all the scripture and I know that all don't rightly divide and assemble passages rightly from the different Prophets and this is where His Spirit of Truth comes in and without Him we can do nothing, and that includes rightly Deciphering His Word.

This is such a wonderful promise all should make sure they have surrendered all that they are to Him that he may come in and take up abode in the soul temple.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Yes He even let's us know what is coming!

Swell. Do you believe God gave the Sabbath to Israel or the whole world? If you say the whole world I want to know what passages you base this on. If you say Israel you deny that God gave the Sabbath to all mankind.

 

[Sophrosyne]

Swell. Do you believe God gave the Sabbath to Israel or the whole world? If you say the whole world I want to know what passages you base this on. If you say Israel you deny that God gave the Sabbath to all mankind.

Actually if the audience is ONLY Israel one could conclude mankind in that expression = Israel and NOT the world.

 

[from scratch]

Actually if the audience is ONLY Israel one could conclude mankind in that expression = Israel and NOT the world.

Exactly

 

[Sophrosyne]

Exactly

Now if we could only get those folks to realize that it is the only thing that makes sense so they would drop the idea the Sabbath is for more than Israel when the idea rejects it was for Israel only by their notions.

 

[Gibs]

Mercy sakes ye all, it is so straight out forward none need not understand the verse,

Mr 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

When He stated it "was made for man" that rules out just Israel or any specific peoples.

He did not specify any particular people it applies to at all!

He made it for ALL men to enjoy and to come at His feet and learn of Him and to worship Him in Reverence.

 

[disciple1]

1 John chapter 1 verse 8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
James chapter 2 verse 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.


1 Timothy chapter 1 verse7, 8
They want to be teachers of the law but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.

We know that the law is good if one uses it properly.

Galatians chapter 3 verses 24,25,23

So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law. Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed.

 

[VictorC]

12th July 2014, 07:03 AM

Above is the time in MDT you posted. Once again you violated the Sabbath. What does the Law demand for reconciliation?

 

[from scratch]

Mercy sakes ye all, it is so straight out forward none need not understand the verse,

Mr 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

When He stated it "was made for man" that rules out just Israel or any specific peoples.

He did not specify any particular people it applies to at all!

He made it for ALL men to enjoy and to come at His feet and learn of Him and to worship Him in Reverence.

Mercy sakes Gibs. When are you going to realize your opinion of the verse calls Moses and the prophets out right liars?

 

[VictorC]

Mercy sakes Gibs. When are you going to realize your opinion of the verse calls Moses and the prophets out right liars?

Exodus 31's statements regarding who was charged with the Sabbath are direct quotes from God. Gibs demands that we accept an argument wherein Jesus contradicts the Law that He codified before His incarnation - and the context surrounding Mark 2:27 demonstrates Jesus' claim to divinity, as He owns the Sabbath (is Lord of) because it was made for man, and not for Him Who made it.

 

[Gibs]

Mercy sakes Gibs. When are you going to realize your opinion of the verse calls Moses and the prophets out right liars?

Well now, Scratch, Moses and the Prophets all say the same of the Sabbath down to the last one.

Satan is the liar who beguiles man and this is one of his blatant outstanding ones.

 

[from scratch]

Well now, Scratch, Moses and the Prophets all say the same of the Sabbath down to the last one.

Satan is the liar who beguiles man and this is one of his blatant outstanding ones.

That's great! Now you're calling Moses and the prophets satan or ministers of satan.

 

[VictorC]

That's great! Now you're calling Moses and the prophets satan or ministers of satan.

I don't think you recognize the magnitude of Gibs' post. He's equating God with satan, much as Ellen White did with the Great Controversy theme.

 

[Gibs]

That's great! Now you're calling Moses and the prophets satan or ministers of satan.

Quite the opposite there Scratch as all are and were of God!

 

[from scratch]

Quite the opposite there Scratch as all are and were of God!

No Moses says the Sabbath was given to a limited group of people and even states why. You have Jesus saying this isn't so. One of them is lying according to your philosophy.

 

[from scratch]

I don't think you recognize the magnitude of Gibs' post. He's equating God with satan, much as Ellen White did with the Great Controversy theme.

Thought that's what I said.