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Roy Moore compared to Mary and Joseph

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by Golfing Gator, Nov 10, 2017.

  1. Golfing Gator

    Golfing Gator New Member

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    No matter what your political point of view is, I hope we can agree this sort of thing is not goo for Christians and Christianity in general.

    From Alabama State Auditor Jim Zeigler

    "Take the Bible: Zachariah and Elizabeth for instance," Zeigler said. "Zachariah was extremely old to marry Elizabeth and they became the parents of John the Baptist. Also take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus. There's just nothing immoral or illegal here. Maybe just a little bit unusual."

    Do, we want people using the bible to justify a 32 year old man trying to have sex with a 14 year old? Is this how we want Christians viewed?
     
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  2. jazzflower92

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    This is really pathetic.
     
  3. Basil the Great

    Basil the Great Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Well..... all I can say is that when I think of the AL GOP Primary voters nominating a man who had twice been removed from the bench, I am reminded of the old saying, "Beware what you wish for".
     
  4. bekkilyn

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    Because our current culture is obviously *exactly* like it was back in those days with no valid reasons whatsoever for anything to have changed since then.

    This is a result of what happens when people put political ideology ahead of God. Rather than demanding and expecting ethical behavior and good moral character from our leaders, we will give free passes for all sorts of reprehensible acts provided we can convince ourselves that "the other side" is worse.
     
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  5. jazzflower92

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    You are right. And that needs to stop.
     
  6. LadyKay

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    Wow! Did he really say that? That is like, well....wow! :screamcat:
     
  7. Golfing Gator

    Golfing Gator New Member

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    Can't make these things up.
     
  8. SoldierOfTheKing

    SoldierOfTheKing Christian Spenglerian

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    Muslims and Islamophiles routinely use that argument when confronted with Mohammed's marriage to a 9 year old girl. It's a bad argument when they use it, and when used by Jim Zeigler, it's still a bad argument - mainly because it relies on the authority of ancient Christian tradition in a selective manner.
     
  9. Christie insb

    Christie insb Well-Known Member

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    Well and - - did this girl's parents approve of her dating a man more than twice her age? The guy who's running for office and his rationalizer both make me want to throw up. He can't even give a fake apology like the Hollywood guys.
     
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  10. FireDragon76

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    As a traditional/liturgical Christian, I find the comparison between Moore and Joseph to be sacrilegious. Contrary to the perception of some evangelicals, the traditional Christian belief was that Mary and Joseph's relationship was exceptional and involved betrothal, but not the substance of marriage. Certainly not somebody with power and influence pressuring a minor into sexual behaviors.
     
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  11. Stormy

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    I assume you are aware of the reasons Moore was removed twice?
    Once for keeping the ten commandments in his office and once for not agreeing with same sex marriage. Jesus did not promise our path would be smooth.
     
  12. Basil the Great

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    Yes, I am aware. While his intentions were good, we are still a nation of laws and he refused to follow the law. Hence, he was removed. Yes, some laws might well go contrary to God's laws. However, we still live in the U.S. and must follow the laws or pay the price. His price was the loss of his duties as a judge.
     
  13. Christie insb

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    Yes, but why was he removed from the mall?
     
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  14. jgarden

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    Roy Moore compared to Mary and Joseph

    For the Alabama State Auditor to compared Judge Roy Moore's relationships with underage girls as analogous to "Mary and Joseph" is a betrayal of his oath of office to uphold the laws of his state - to safeguard children who have not reached the age of consent!
     
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  15. SoldierOfTheKing

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    Only one claims to have been underage. Remember the age of consent in Alabama is 16.
     
  16. jgarden

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    Only one - how many underage girls does it take?

    The woman who was 14 at the time has stated that Moore took her to his home, without her parents' knowledge, underdressed her and instructed her to engage in sexual acts!

    For the "Mary and Joseph" analogy to apply, Roy Moore would have to claim that he was emulating the Holy Spirit!
     
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  17. SoldierOfTheKing

    SoldierOfTheKing Christian Spenglerian

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    You used plural terms "relationships with underage girls". That implies at least two.

    I've already stated that I agree it's a bad analogy.
     
  18. Gracia Singh

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    ...
     
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  19. Stormy

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    Fine... Then you also understand that in the United States a person is to be considered innocent until proven guilty? If accusations alone can destroy a person, then we are all in danger.

    Moore is not new to the scene, he has been vetted time and time again. Democrats are in great need to win seats in a republican controlled congress.. perfect timing?
     
  20. Sketcher

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    I'll need a source linked before I'll believe he said that.

    As to the content of the message, it was a different culture entirely, where matches like that were more normal and not against any laws. The way that Moore allegedly pursued them would have been improper in that culture, however. If he's guilty, he is a far worse man than either Zachariah or Joseph.
     
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