Roman church errors and inventions

[E.C.]

How is Christmas or Easter pagan?

Don't you know?

The day that was set for Christmas is twelve weeks off of the Maya religion's greatest day of human sacrificing and when you convert that calendar to the Japanese calendar to the Chinese calendar and then to the Gregorian calendar than that day of massive human sacrificing just happens to be on December 25!

Sarcasm over.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Don't you know?

The day that was set for Christmas is twelve weeks off of the Maya religion's greatest day of human sacrificing and when you convert that calendar to the Japanese calendar to the Chinese calendar and then to the Gregorian calendar than that day of massive human sacrificing just happens to be on December 25!

Sarcasm over.

Not to mention it comes just before the start of the New Year and what better way to start it off than to celebrate the birth of JESUS just before it.

 

[E.C.]

Not to mention it comes just before the start of the New Year and what better way to start it off than to celebrate the birth of JESUS just before it.

And right in the middle of finals week in the FOX School of Sensationalism too!

 

[Montalban]

It IS all pagan, & I DON'T celebrate or bother with it.

For those that believe Easter is pagan they seem to be confused with the event, with the word.

The word derives from the German and has links with Oestrogen and other elements to do with re-birth which were pagan celebrations.

The event though is known to we (or is it 'us') Orthodox as Pascha. The word has not the same Germanic-pagan connotations then.

The event is clearly stated in the Bible as an actual event.

 

[Victrixa]

Hi friends

Wasn't Jesus' altar, a Cross, a Pagan symbol? Yet, He, a Jew, chose to die on a Pagan symbol...

 

[E.C.]

Hi friends

Wasn't Jesus' altar, a Cross, a Pagan symbol? Yet, He, a Jew, chose to die on a Pagan symbol...

Yet God is able to turn something that is evil into something good.

Thus, the Cross is now a symbol of hope.

Fascinating, ain't it?

 

[Rick Otto]

Chocolate Bunny Egg Sunday is Pagan?
How could that ever be?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Chocolate Bunny Egg Sunday is Pagan?
How could that ever be?

That's saved for dessert, after we have our "easter" bunny stew. Yummy......

 

[Victrixa]

That's saved for dessert, after we have our "easter" bunny stew. Yummy......

Now, you're making me soooo hungry!

 

[Rick Otto]

The event is clearly stated in the Bible as an actual event.

Does it mention the eggs & the bunny?

 

[Montalban]

Hi friends

Wasn't Jesus' altar, a Cross, a Pagan symbol? Yet, He, a Jew, chose to die on a Pagan symbol...

I'm not sure it was a 'pagan symbol' in the sense that pagans used it as part of their religious worship. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know much about this, but it seems to me that the Cross was a thing used by pagans as were everything else in their lives. Otherwise it's like saying 'the toga is a pagan symbol'

If anyone knows of pagans using the cross symbol for religion, please feel free to post here.

 

[Montalban]

Does it mention the eggs & the bunny?

No. But they're not universal to the commemoration of Pascha. They're pagan derived for sure, but that's like saying if I wear shoes made by pagans to church I'm being anti-religious.

 

[Montalban]

What I find most interesting though is that Peter chose to die on an inverted cross and yet in so much culture generated by Catholics the inverted cross is a symbol of evil.

Are they suggesting that the death of their first pope was not enough to sanctify this symbol?

 

[lionroar0]

What I find most interesting though is that Peter chose to die on an inverted cross and yet in so much culture generated by Catholics the inverted cross is a symbol of evil.

Are they suggesting that the death of their first pope was not enough to sanctify this symbol?

It's not culture generated by Catholics. It's culture generated by Hollywood.

Peace

 

[Rick Otto]

No. But they're not universal to the commemoration of Pascha. They're pagan derived for sure, but that's like saying if I wear shoes made by pagans to church I'm being anti-religious.

I don't think so, but only because the last church I went to had a "No Shoes, No Service" sign on the door.
Let me ask you this: Is Christianity anti-pagan?

 

[Rick Otto]

What I find most interesting though is that Peter chose to die on an inverted cross and yet in so much culture generated by Catholics the inverted cross is a symbol of evil.

Are they suggesting that the death of their first pope was not enough to sanctify this symbol?

As interesting to me is that his executioners allowed him a choice. And it seems to me that the cross didn't become a Christian symbol until Jesus died on it, so I think His death if anybody's would sanctify it, as if it realy needed that.
That is a core problem I have with there even being a "clergy class". The power of sanctification gets monopolized and its management appears to easily invite criticism at some points. I wouldn't even entertain the notion that Peter had the power to sanctify a symbol, especialy if it had previously established currency as pagan.

 

[lionroar0]

I wouldn't even entertain the notion that Peter had the power to sanctify a symbol, especialy if it had previously established currency as pagan.

Neither would I.

A person can not sanctify anthything. It is God who sanctifies.

Peace

 

[Rick Otto]

Cool. That is what "I hear my spirit telling me".
(I'm part Indian. I'm allowed to talk that way.)

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Cool. That is what "I hear my spirit telling me".
(I'm part Indian. I'm allowed to talk that way.)

How!

http://www.indians.org/welker/greatspi.htm

"Oh, Great Spirit, whose voice I hear in the wind, whose Breath gives life to all the world. Hear me; I need your strength and wisdom.

O Great Spirit of the North, who gives wings to the waters of the air and rolls the thick snowstorm before Thee,
O Great Spirit of the East, the land of the rising Sun, Who holds in Your right hand the years of our lives
O Great Spirit of the South, whose warm breath of compassion melts the ice that gathers round our hearts,
O Great Spirit of the West, the land of the setting Sun, with Your soaring mountains and free,

Ezekiel 37:9 Also He saying to me, "Prophesy! to the breath/07307 ruwach. Prophesy!, Son of 'Adam, and you say to the breath/07307 ruwach, 'Thus He says the Lord of me, YHWH: "From Four of Winds/07307 ruwach, come! the Breath/07307 ruwach, and breathe/blow/05301 naphach in the ones slain, the-these and they shall live." ' "

gotta listen to the trees, hoss...............["Thunderheart"]

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I don't think so, but only because the last church I went to had a "No Shoes, No Service" sign on the door.
Let me ask you this: Is Christianity anti-pagan?

Are sandals ok?