Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth

[Revealing Times]

There is no such thing as a FACTS AS YOU SEE THEM. This is a fact..........the wrath of God begins at the sixth seal.......just like God says.
Rev 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Whether you see it or not is not going to change Gods word. It's plainly written. The sixth seal is opened........the day of his wrath has come. I have no idea why you can't see what is plainly written.

Again, I need not explain it again. God said NO SUCH THING. I added verse 15 ABOVE. This shows who is saying what. God is saying NOTHING as you insist, John is repeating what he saw in the VISION. Nothing more, nothing less. They stated at that time that the Wrath of God is come upon us, they did not state the Wrath of God came with the Sixth Seal.

The day of the Lord is a 3.5 Year Period of time.

Listen brother, Jesus is not saying mankind would have wiped themselves out. When Jesus says no flesh would have been saved, he means no flesh would have been alive to be raptured. All believers would have been killed. If that had happened then it would only be the dead being raptured.

The Rapture of the Church happens before the 70th week of Jacobs Troubles. Jess is clearly saying the reason the plan was SEVEN YEARS is because if it had been 10 years no flesh would have survived. The Church is not on earth during this time period.

I don't know who is teaching you this stuff........but make them stop. The marriage supper occurs in heaven. It is not for the bride to eat the flesh of kings. That is for the fowl of the air. Come on use common sense. I'm not trying to insult you but I figure you have been studying Revelation no more than 4-5 years.

Its a METAPHORIC SUPPER. The Supper does not happen in Heaven, it happens on earth. These SCRIPTURES ARE SIMPLY Brother. Its not complicated.

Rev. 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses (THE Church see VERSE 8), clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; ( ON EARTH Jesus is coming to SMITE THE NATIONS !! The Marriage Supper is ON EARTH !! )

18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. ( So these MEN are on earth, thus the Marriage Supper is ON EARTH !! Do you not get this? Let the bible interpret itself brother. )

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

They are no Gathered in Heaven to make war with Jesus, they re Gathered at Armageddon !!

You are trying to teach me about Revelation and you do not understand the basics, and you do not even, IT SEEMS, understand the Rapture timing.

It directly says the sixth seal is open and then the day of His wrath is come. It can't get any clearer than that. What can't you see. If you would put things where God says they go you will have a much better time understanding revelation.

Wrong, that is just you misunderstanding the scripture as cited.

You will never understand Revelation until you put things as the scripture says. Scripture says wrath begins at the sixth seal. Why does it have to be anywhere else? What is the point of deciding something on your own without any scriptural backup.

Because you are WRONG doesn't mean I don't understand Revelation brother.

DING DING DING.... A RAPTURE happens before the seven year tribulation. There is no the rapture.

Ding, ding, ding, there is a Rapture PRE-TRIBULATION.

Try to keep up. When Paul is talking about....you are not in darkness that that day will overtake you as a thief.....he is referring to the day of the Lord..........the day of Gods wrath seen at the sixth seal....and right after we see a great multitude. A rapture happened. Exact same thing happens in Rev 14.....we have a harvest..........a rapture and there is the wrath of God. Same event.

Now as far as the church goes this applies:
Matt 24
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the GOODMAN of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
The church is the goodman. If the goodman had known when he was coming his house would not be broken up.
So He is coming for the Church........but the church will not know when He is coming. In such an hour as you think not, the son of man is coming.
He is coming again at the Day of the Lord. Church is already gone.
Remember the 10 virgins.

Paul is referring to those in Christ Jesus as not being in the DARK. Thus they will not be alive during the Tribulation because if they are alive when it comes they OF COURSE, being OF THE LIGHT will be Raptured first.

That Day overtakes those who SLEEP (are in Darkness) but not those of us who are WOKE (In Christ Jesus). Thus the THIEF will come upon the Wicked but not the Righteous, we will be in Heaven.

The Rapture is at an UNKNOWN TIME. The Second Coming is not, it will be known. Its a countdown of the Last Seven Vials. The Wrath of God starts at the very FIRST SEAL.

Wrath after tribulation..........just like it says.

Jacobs Troubles is a SEVEN YEAR EVENT (70TH WEEK.)

Gods Wrath is a 3.5 Year Event.

Happy Alabama won for you.

Almost TIRED OF WINNING like Trump said. It is just a game now, as a kid it was serious business. A loss meant the Radio might fly out the Window.

 

[BABerean2]

The Rapture of the Church happens before the 70th week of Jacobs Troubles. Jess is clearly saying the reason the plan was SEVEN YEARS is because if it had been 10 years no flesh would have survived. The Church is not on earth during this time period.

Once a person comes to understand that the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34 is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and is specifically applied to the Church in Hebrews 12:22-24, and 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, the Two Peoples of God doctrine and its pretrib removal of the Church falls apart.

The New Covenant has made the Old Covenant "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13, and the New Covenant is "everlasting" in Hebrews 13:20.

Therefore, there is no Plan B before the Second Coming of Christ.

The New Covenant "Church" is made up of all those who are saved by the Blood of the Lamb.

They are found in Revelation 12:11.

The term "tribulation saints" in a term invented to make the pretrib doctrine work.

A person cannot be under the Blood of the Lamb and not be a part of the New Covenant Church.

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[vinsight4u]

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[jgr]

Cuts no butter whatsoever.

True; if you're resolved to ignore it. But it's there for any who will accept it.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[Choose Wisely]

The appearing of Jesus Christ is the time of salvation for the church.

Hebrews 9:28

“So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”

appear_______unto salvation

Again you have proven a pre trib secret rapture.

Notice that it does not say that ALL EYES WILL SEE HIM COMING

Just more proof of a secret rapture.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[vinsight4u]

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[BABerean2]

Again you have proven a pre trib secret rapture.

Notice that it does not say that ALL EYES WILL SEE HIM COMING

Just more proof of a secret rapture.

The words "we" and "sleep" in 1 Thessalonians 5:10 prove that the event described at the end of chapter 4 is connected to the timing at the beginning of chapter 5 on "the day of the Lord", when He "comes as a thief".
Based on 2 Peter 3:10, and Revelation 16:15-16, it is clearly a Second Coming event.

The New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34 which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and specifically applied to the Church in Hebrews 12:22-24, and 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, kills the Two Peoples of God doctrine and also the pretrib removal of the Church that goes with it.

Based on Hebrews 8:13, the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant "obsolete".
In Hebrews 13:20 we find that the New Covenant is "everlasting".
Therefore the New Covenant Church cannot end before the Second Coming of Christ.

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[Choose Wisely]

LOL. We just proved again that there will be a secret rapture as the verses you quoted show that only those looking for the Messiah will see him. You are always saying that all eyes will see the coming of the Messiah. Well thats true for the rapture prior to wrath.........at the 6th seal. However we see that only those looking will see His appearance in another instance.

My only question is.........Do you want to know the truth or are you more interested in following a religion?

This is certainly nothing new........the irrefutable truth is presented.........and it goes right over your head.

 

[vinsight4u]

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