Now how can the Anti-Christ offer peace and Security if he is conquering in the first part of the last "week" of seventy sevens ? We can understand clearly when the Abomination happens, at exactly the Mid-way point. Israel is to flee Judea according to Jesus when the AoD happens. In Rev. 12 when the Woman (Israel) flees to the Wilderness, she is protected by God for 1260 Days. The same time-frame is given in Daniel chapter 12.
Who ever said he is conquering in the first half of the week? I don't remember reading that. However, since you mention it, I suspect it will be in the first half of the week where he takes down 3 of 10 nations as Daniel tells us. in Rev. 13, very close to the midpoint still, it is written "who is able to make war with him?"
Jesus was showing John visions of things in the future, why would you "assume" that the First Seal was during the Church age ? This is just not the case, nor is their any reason to think this is the case. What you seem to do is take Chapters 4 and 5 and over-interpret them. Chapter 4 is about the Glory of the Almighty God. It shows the Hosts of Heaven worshiping Him saying Glory to God. In Chapter 5 the Lamb/Jesus is given the same Treatment the Hosts of Heaven sing "Worthy is the Lamb"...........All this Vision is dong is setting up the facts as to WHY the Lord God and the Lamb are Just in their Anger and in the Wrath they are about to bring upon the Earth and Mankind..........No one was Found WORTHY to Open the Seals..............BEHOLD I saw a Lamb as it had been Slain. These visions are pointing out/testifying as to why the Holy God and the Worthy Lamb are Just and Righteous in their coming Judgment of man-kind. This Vision is not during the Church age. The Seals are not opened during the Church Age, Jesus is opening them in Heaven, as they happen, boom, boom, boom.
There is much explaining you have to do. First, WHY did John not see Jesus at the right hand of the Father? We have over a dozen verses telling us He should have been there. Second, why was Jesus NOT FOUND in the first search John watched? There has to be a reason, and there is: you have missed it. Third, why is the Holy Spirit still in the throne room in chapter 4? Jesus said He would send Him down as soon as He ascended?
You see, all this is telling us a story. Now I will be perfectly honest with you. When God was teaching me these two chapters, I did not get it. First He said, "it shows timing." Then He said, "It also shows the movement of time." I read and read, hundreds of times, and could not find "timing" or the "movement of time." I was SLOW! Then God spoke to me: I heard His words: "Son, I will ask you three questions about this part of John's vision, and until you can answer them correctly, you will never understand it." It was those three questions above. I was not smart enough to ask these questions. God asked them. So I read these two chapters many more times trying to answer these questions, but could not. Finally, after two intense weeks of study, hours each day, God said, "go study chapter 12." To make a long story short, He sent me to chapter 12 to notice that the first 5 verses were about the birth of Christ. God spoke these words to me about those first five verses: "History lesson." Once I had these two words in my mind, He said, "now you can go back and study chapters 4 & 5 again.
Within a few minutes I had the right answer to all three questions. It was not "over interpreting" them. It was answering God's three questions. Why was Jesus not seen immediately at the right hand of the Father? After all, Stephen SAW Him there. The answer is, in all of eternities past and future, there has been only a tiny 32 year span of time when the second person of the trinity was NOT at the right hand of the Father, and that was during those 32 years He was on the earth or under the earth. So the very fact that Jesus was not seen gives us a 32 year time span of the correct time of this vision.
Then John wrote, "no man was found." We can know from this that the timing of the vision was BEFORE Jesus rose from the dead - for the very moment He rose from the dead, He was found worthy, which we see if we read farther. So it is during those 32 years, but before He rose.
The Holy Spirit was still in the throne room in chapter 4 for the very simple reason that Jesus had not yet ascended to send Him down.
then we get into chapter 5 a little further and we find that suddenly Jesus WAS found as the one worthy to break the seals. this tells us that now in the vision Jesus has just risen from the dead. Then John turned and saw a NEW person in the throne room, that was not there a moment before. (Can you see the movement of time?) John got to see in vision form the very moment Jesus ascended, having just told Mary not to hold onto Him for He had not yet ascended. He sent Mary away and then ascended, and John got to see this moment of time in the vision. And as John wrote, at that moment the Holy Spirit was sent down. Again, this is not over intepreting, it is UNDERSTANDING the intent of the Author. So verse 5:7, when Jesus got the book out of the Father's hand, was around 32 AD. It can be NO OTHER TIME, or words mean nothing.
I did not "assume" anything. I understood the intent of the Author. John plainly SHOWS US the timing. Once we understand these two chapters, we can easily see the movement of time. John watched ONE search for one worthy end in failure. But then another search was started as soon as that one ended. And the next search paid off: Jesus was found worthy. So why was He not found worthy in the first search John watched that ended in failure (the very reason John wept much)? It was TIME: He had not yet risen from the dead during that first search.
This Vision is not during the Church age. Sorry, but the very words in the verses tell us the truth: It was the very moment Jesus ascended. Perhaps you should spend a little more time meditating on these two chapters.
When did the church begin? Of course, officially on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2, around 32 AD. This was shortly after Jesus rose from the dead and was found worthy as John shows us. There is no way around this: John has pinpointed the time to the time Jesus ascended and sent the Holy Spirit down. Of course, you can do as many have done, and just IGNORE the context. I cannot do that.
Yes, at the midpoint, chapter 11, and the 7th trumpet sounds in heaven to mark that event.
Israel Flees from the Anti-Christ,
Yes, as we see in 12:6 which is mere seconds from when the man of sin declares he is god. Is he really the "antichrist" or beast yet at this moment? He will enter the temple as the "man of sin." How soon after he becomes the Beast is not known.
the Anti-Christ starts Conquering and forcing all to worship him. Many will not and they will be beheaded/Killed and many will die because of War, Famine, Sickness and Murder (2 Billion people) This is Seal #1 through #4,
Sorry, you are a mile off and chapters off here! The people flee in chapter 12, and you are talking about the seals? What kind of exegesis is this? I know: it is IGNORING CONTEXT. The abomination will not take place until after 6 trumpets have sounded!
The truth is, the first seal was broken around 32 AD and is to represent the CHURCH taking the gospel to the world. Because Satan rules the world, OF COURSE there will be overcoming and conquest. Rulers of the darkness, principalities and powers must be conquered.
The next three seals, the Red Horse, the Black horse, and the Pale horse all ride together (NOT including the white) and are to represent the devil's feeble attempts to to stop the advance of the church with the gospel. But God has limited them to 1/4 of the surface of the earth.
and this is how it happens. Seal #5 is the Christians who were Beheaded during this period of time called the Day of the Lord/Day of Gods Wrath, Great Tribulation
You are two thousand years off! It is what happens when you IGNORE CONTEXT. Sorry, but the 5th seal are the martyrs of the CHURCH AGE. there is NOTHING there about beheading. And the Day of the Lord has not started yet. STEPHEN was part of this group. Those that Paul put to death were a part of this group. They are church age martyrs. And they have no idea how long the church age will last. They are told they have to WAIT for judgment time. Looking back, we understand now that for the most part God has held off judgment until the DAY of judgment. In the book, written in black and white, we find that the day of the Lord (the day of His wrath) begins AFTER the 6th seal has been broken.
The church has been waiting now almost 2000 years at the 5th seal, waiting on the rapture of the church that will END the church age and usher in the Day of the Lord. (It is my belief that the great earthquake at the 6th seal is Paul's "sudden destruction." It is no mistake that John shows us the raptured church in heaven in chapter 7.
..as never seen before nor since etc. etc. Those murdered/beheaded during this period want vengeance on THOSE ON EARTH, but they are given White Garments and told to wait until the week is up, or until their fellow servants have perished like they did.
You are talking really, about events between chapters 14 and 15, not the seals. Your imagination has gone wild. NONE of this takes place during the seals. Stop and think: any martyr killed during the 70th week will KNOW they have only a short time to wait, only 7 years at the MAX. So it makes no sense that these are 70th week martyrs or Day of the Lord martyrs. On the other hand, as John has clearly shown us, these are church age martyrs and they have NO IDEA how long the church age will go. So they ask.
What makes Seals 1-4 the Lambs Wrath is HE ALLOWS THIS TO COME UPON THE EARTH, because of disobedience. Jesus opened the Seals, he decreed the order. In Seal #5 God/Jesus sees the beheaded, and He is Angry, thus comes forth the Great Earthquake in Seal #6.
Sorry, No wrath of God in the seals. Not until the 6th seal, which is future to us today. I believe the great earthquake will be caused by the dead in Christ rising. Study Matthew 27. (The earth did quake...and the graves were opened)
Rev. 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the
face of him that sitteth on the throne, and
from the wrath of the Lamb: (God and Jesus are bringing forth the Wrath of the Seal.) Read Isaiah chapter 2, which has almost word for word what John wrote here at the 6th seal, It is the start of the Day of the Lord, still future to us today. The 6th and 7th seal are still sealing the book, and it cannot be opened to reveal even the first trumpet judgment until they are opened. This will be FUTURE, but I think not very long now.
I showed why this can not be the case above.
In your opinion. I don't buy it because you ignore the context or just don't consider it.
