Sorry, but humans tend to be rather subjective creatures with various subjective beliefs. That's the problem with free will.
Do you agree that God is truth?
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Religion cannot work with science.
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Do you agree that God is truth?
Yes. I believe however that we as humans aren't always all that great at detecting "truth".
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Yes. I believe however that we as humans aren't always all that great at detecting "truth".
Hence the Holy Spirit. Truth itself.
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The Holy Spirit is certainly our direct connection to truth. We as humans however do subjectively interpret all of our life experiences, even our experiences of/in the Holy Spirit.
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bhsmte
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Sorry, but humans tend to be rather subjective creatures with various subjective beliefs. That's the problem with free will.
No doubt but that wasnt my point.
The poster stated God is truth and God owns science, yet the poster decides to reject portions of science, that they claim God owns.
Seems to be a significant contradiction to me.
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Not really. I essentially do the same thing. I reject Lambda-CDM outright, and yet I believe that God essentially "owns" science. Over the whole of eternity, he's certainly mastered it better than mere humans.
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I think there's a "motive" and an "empirical physics" aspect you need to look at.
I don't for instance reject any form of what I would call "empirical physics", my computer and cell phone being great examples of empirical physics.
I do lack belief in some types of hypothetical "science" based on a lack of laboratory evidence to support such a claim. String theory would be a great example.
I don't for instance reject any form of what I would call "empirical physics", my computer and cell phone being great examples of empirical physics.
I do lack belief in some types of hypothetical "science" based on a lack of laboratory evidence to support such a claim. String theory would be a great example.
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That is the beauty, and some might perceive as a pitfall, of unconditional love.
That happens a lot in string theory too by the way.
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bhsmte
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That is the beauty, and some might perceive as a pitfall, of unconditional love.
That happens a lot in string theory too by the way.
I wouldnt call it unconditional love. I would call it unmitigated need to see what you want to see. I know, I know, parts of science you disagree with do this as well.
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Don't be modest. God is all truth and all who reject God reject truth.
None the less, science that claims to be for truth and rejects truth, isn't really for science.
God owns science.
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Is Lambda-CDM a part of 'scientific truth' as God perceives it, or just a part of "human theory"? IMO God owns everything that I see, everything that exists, absolutely everything, including religion and science.
Some religion and 'scientific theory' just don't square well with what God might perceive as 'truth science' from the perspective of an ancient being that may have existed for eternity. Our human concept of 'science' probably seems pretty primitive and quite laughable to God IMO, particularly as it relates to "how did humans get here" type questions.
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I think a lot depends on how one practices their "science" as well as their religion. IMO there doesn't *necessarily* have to be a conflict between religion and science. Furthermore, they can both be in agreement at various points in history and still both be wrong as the Ptolemaic astronomy model demonstrates.
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I think a lot depends on how one practices their "science" as well as their religion. IMO there doesn't *necessarily* have to be a conflict between religion and science. Furthermore, they can both be in agreement at various points in history and still both be wrong as the Ptolemaic astronomy model demonstrates.
Religion? What is that? Visiting the fatherless and widows?
The truth will remain, those that profess science will confess that the truth is good or they won't.
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bhsmte
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Is Lambda-CDM a part of 'scientific truth' as God perceives it, or just a part of "human theory"? IMO God owns everything that I see, everything that exists, absolutely everything, including religion and science.
Some religion and 'scientific theory' just don't square well with what God might perceive as 'truth science' from the perspective of an ancient being that may have existed for eternity. Our human concept of 'science' probably seems pretty primitive and quite laughable to God IMO, particularly as it relates to "how did humans get here" type questions.
Much of the reality of the world doesnt square well with the christian description of God. You dont agree with the direction of parts of science and you are entitled to your opinion in that regard.
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