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Religion cannot work with science.

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Science would prevent a miracle from occurring; but it's not strong enough.

I see it more like science describes the normal operation of the universe (orchestrated by God), whereas miracles are temporary suspensions/alterations of those principles, and thus outside the realm of (and irrelevant to) science.
 
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I see it more like science describes the normal operation of the universe (orchestrated by God), whereas miracles are temporary suspensions/alterations of those principles, and thus outside the realm of (and irrelevant to) science.

Just an observation, but you'd think two people claiming to have a personal relationship with the god of the universe and all creation, might have a better grasp on what a miracle really is and their place in the natural realm, because honestly, it sounds like you're both making up your own definitions to fit your personal narrative of god.
 
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Thats funny. Thanks for that.

The fact that you are still seeking proof is proof that you have defeated "science".

Your free, you long to discover the truth. All truth leads to the truth.

Not so much seeking as proof of god (because he doesn't exist), more like evaluating claims made by theists. Maybe then you'll pause to question your beliefs, and then maybe you can discover truth.

(It sets you free. ;))
 
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Just an observation, but you'd think two people claiming to have a personal relationship with the god of the universe and all creation, might have a better grasp on what a miracle really is and their place in the natural realm, because honestly, it sounds like you're both making up your own definitions to fit your personal narrative of god.

No.
 
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Meaning science can [temporarily] take a hike ... right?

If you want to phrase it that way. However, the reason I don't accept things like a literal special creation of each individual animal species or a global flood is because all of the physical evidence not only does not support them, but tells a story that something completely different happened, and I don't believe God would allow His creation to hold false evidence like that, it would make Him a liar.
 
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If you want to phrase it that way. However, the reason I don't accept things like a literal special creation of each individual animal species or a global flood is because all of the physical evidence not only does not support them, but tells a story that something completely different happened, and I don't believe God would allow His creation to hold false evidence like that, it would make Him a liar.

Will the new earth be a literal special creation?
 
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What about science? You stated he owned science and then you want to reject part of what he owns.

God is all truth and "science" is the pursuit of truth.

Instead of lifting a creation, "science", as a god, why not rather lift truth as God?

Is science the pursuit of discovering the truth? Let us go boldly to the truth for the solution.
 
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