Rejection of Mary as your mediator (2)

[beamishboy]

I see that Beamishboy is silent - hopefully he is at School now till about 4pm [ another 90 mins or so ] to give us time to marshall our thoughts to deal with his amaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing depth of knowledge about which he is sooooooooo humble

The beamishboy is not in school now. The beamishboy is a free spirit like Ariel. He does not sleep and he posts at all hours. Even in the middle of school time. Hehe.

Thanks for the compliment. You are at least more discerning than most of the others.

 

[Anhelyna]

So I have observed - and this makes me wonder even more about you.

Do you not go to School ?

 

[beamishboy]

So I have observed - and this makes me wonder even more about you.

Do you not go to School ?

Yes I do. But I'm not in school at this hour.

 

[Thekla]

No, the Apostles didn't teach that. Just as they didn't teach the prelates of the church to wear Santa Claus beards. But I'm sure the Anglican church will survive the end of monarchy in Britain as much as your church will survive even if all your priests decide to be clean-shaven.

Well, per your opinion, the tradition of beards is part of our "propoganda"; but per your claim that your Church contains only apostolic teaching, where does the Church of England locate its clear departure from apostolic teaching on the usurpation of the headship of Christ in the Church, and why is such an egregious departure not a matter of concern to you ?

 

[beamishboy]

Well, per your opinion, the tradition of beards is part of our "propoganda"; but per your claim that your Church contains only apostolic teaching, where does the Church of England locate its clear departure from apostolic teaching on the usurpation of the headship of Christ in the Church, and why is such an egregious departure not a matter of concern to you ?

The Queen is the Head of our Church only in the secular sense. She does not make the slightest pronouncement on religion nor does she make sermons or write religious opinions. The good thing about her being the Head of the Church is that Anglicanism becomes the State Religion. All schools in Britain, eg, must hold prayer sessions. This is required by an Act of Parliament. So the ugly situation that happens in America won't look its head in England - atheists insisting that schools cannot hold prayers etc. That's because in Britain, we have a State Religion. That's the only significance of the Queen being the head of the church.

If she were to make religious pronouncements, that would be seriously wrong.

The Apostles do not talk about whether to have a state religion so it's not anti-apostolic.

But praises be sung to a human being and prayers are said to her and idols of her are all over the church and also paraded in towns and her idols are kissed and fussed over, that in my humble opinion would be a serious incursion into religion. In my view, that would be anti-apostolic and must be opposed.

Monarchy may end tomorrow in England and the Anglican church will still continue. It may be bad for us because atheists will insist that prayers in school are stopped but the faith goes on. The Queen's position does not affect religion adversely; if anything, in a secular way, it defends the rights of Christians to do things on the State level because it makes our religion the protected State religion.

 

[Thekla]

it seems there is a great deal more speculation than substance in your assertions ...

 

[Anhelyna]

All schools in Britain, eg, must hold prayer sessions.

A common act of worship I believe

 

[beamishboy]

A common act of worship I believe
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Yes my dear, you are absolutely correct.

 

[ikonographics]

Hi,



If you have read my posts, you will know that the beamishboy is extremely mature in his thoughts. I normally talk about very serious things which is why you seldom find me in the Teens forums in CF (I do post there but not as much as I post in adult forums). You may say the beamishboy is a full grown adult trapped in a 13-year-old's body.

Because of my extreme maturity, I accept that there are times when I think and behave like an adult so much that I snap and react to a provocation like an adult too. It's very hard because of my inherent maturity. I do try to remind myself that while my thoughts and words may be no different from a 40 year old's, I can't deny the fact that I've only lived for 13 plus years. You can't imagine how many people actually think I'm older because of the things I say. I get PM all the time from people who think I'm much older. It's gratifying but it's becoming tiring. Hehe. So, adults always treat me like one of them and they don't deal with me with kid gloves the way they might with other 13-year-olds because they recognise the maturity in me. So I tend to reciprocate. That is when I breach social rules because although I think, speak, write and argue like an adult, I happen by an accident of birth not to be technically one.

I have never read anything sooooo IMMATURE!

 

[MamaZ]

Watch it - you are a child - nothing more than that . !

You are not a relative , nor someone in a special relationship with me.

Common courtesy harms no-one

Treat me like that again child, and I promise you you will face the consequences of your apparently condescending behaviour

Wow such love seeping out here. Because He is a child he is to be treated this in humane? Does not Jesus even say suffer the little children to come unto me? He may be a child in your eyes and in the worlds eyes but He is also a child of the King. So your swift speaking here could be considered a threat..Is that what this post was all about? A threat?

 

[Photini]

If my 13 year old son called me "my dear", he would lose privileges. It is not okay for a child to speak to an adult that way.

 

[MamaZ]

If my 13 year old son called me "my dear", he would lose privileges. It is not okay for a child to speak to an adult that way.

so you threaten them? .. What way did he speak that was so awful? It came across light hearted.

 

[Photini]

I don't threaten, I discipline and correct. There is love in discipline.

I CHILD should not disrespect an adult. I have worked very hard to instill respect of elders into my children.

 

[Anhelyna]

Thank you Damaris

Perhaps MamaZ should keep in mind that here in this thread it was 2 Brits exchanging a message on a messgae board .

The tone he used in English useage [ which he is ] is condescending in the extreme and used by a child to an adult is definitely insulting.

I trust his parents , school or carer are aware of his posting style and the way he addresses folk.

His mode of address and posting is not amusing - he is a child and needs to behave appropriately .

Why any 13yr old in the UK is able to have computer access that permits him to be posting at these times

12.21 am 16 Sept
2.44am same day
8.54 am same day
11.03 pm same day
11.45 pm same day

then as these are UK times , I feel it is perfectly reasonable to question things.

Does COPPA not apply to UK children ?

In his own words from post 201 he said

The beamishboy is not in school now. The beamishboy is a free spirit like Ariel. He does not sleep and he posts at all hours. Even in the middle of school time. Hehe.

Thanks for the compliment. You are at least more discerning than most of the others.

what 13 yr old child posts in such a fashion and uses such strange language ?

 

[prodromos]

DAVID TAKES ON GOLIATH

David is one of our prime examples of humbleness (after Christ). You would do well to at least try to emulate the one whose mantle you have been so bold as to take on.

My dear Prodromos,

How about if both of us go on a formal debate. Would you like that? Wow, I'd be trouncing someone more than three times my age!

Wasn't Goliath the one coming out with the proud boasts?

We can sign on one of those formal debates. Let me pick a suitable topic.

The beamishboy will then display from his arsenal all his ammunition.

What do you think?

As I only have the luxury of spending a few short moments a day on the Internet due to work and family commitments, I fear I would not be able to do the topic justice. It can hardly be an equitable debate if we do not have equal resources. I would prefer to continue as I have been, posting as opportunity presents.
I am surprised at your offer though. Surely if you have the time and resources to commit to a formal debate, you should be able to bring some of that 'substance' into these threads. We've seen little more than unsubstantiated opinion thus far.

John

 

[MamaZ]

I don't threaten, I discipline and correct. There is love in discipline.

I CHILD should not disrespect an adult. I have worked very hard to instill respect of elders into my children.

Yes your children. But because this young man is a child we are to still walk with Love.. Here is what love looks like.
1Co 13:4 Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant,
1Co 13:5 does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered,
1Co 13:6 does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth;
1Co 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.


This could have been handled with the Love of the Lord.. With kindness and gentleness instead of with arrogance and threats..

 

[prodromos]

Wow such love seeping out here. Because He is a child he is to be treated this in humane? Does not Jesus even say suffer the little children to come unto me? He may be a child in your eyes and in the worlds eyes but He is also a child of the King. So your swift speaking here could be considered a threat..Is that what this post was all about? A threat?

Would you seriously encourage your own children to behave towards adults in the manner demonstrated by beamishboy?

John

 

[MamaZ]

Thank you Damaris

Perhaps MamaZ should keep in mind that here in this thread it was 2 Brits exchanging a message on a messgae board .

The tone he used in English useage [ which he is ] is condescending in the extreme and used by a child to an adult is definitely insulting.

I trust his parents , school or carer are aware of his posting style and the way he addresses folk.

His mode of address and posting is not amusing - he is a child and needs to behave appropriately .

Why any 13yr old in the UK is able to have computer access that permits him to be posting at these times

12.21 am 16 Sept
2.44am same day
8.54 am same day
11.03 pm same day
11.45 pm same day

then as these are UK times , I feel it is perfectly reasonable to question things.

Does COPPA not apply to UK children ?

In his own words from post 201 he said


what 13 yr old child posts in such a fashion and uses such strange language ?
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Brit or not love is still the same. Love is gentle and kind. This is one of my passions is that children be treated with love and discipline not threats and unkindness..

 

[MamaZ]

Would you seriously encourage your own children to behave towards adults in the manner demonstrated by beamishboy?

John

Encourage them no. But if child spoke to me in a way that offended me I would still walk in the Love of the Lord and genlty tell this child that this was offensive to me and ask for them not to speak to me in this way. Not offer out threats.

 

[prodromos]

Yes your children. But because this young man is a child we are to still walk with Love.. Here is what love looks like.
1Co 13:4 Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant,
1Co 13:5 does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered,
1Co 13:6 does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth;
1Co 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
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So why are you not admonishing beamishboy for HIS failure to demonstrate love?

John