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Then that is a good reason it shouldn't be secret.
Is this a recovery forum or a social club?
It seems to me Moriah has a different intent for this forum than some of the others involved...
Somebody clear it up for me PLEASE...
Is this a recovery forum or a social club?
Was Constance consulted on this Forum and if so did she agree?
I've no idea, but I don know the Site owner was, and set it up.
Just a reminder, Lisa, that the pigs were raised to be sacrifices to Zeus. Believe me, Jesus didn't give a fig about them because the owner should not have been raising them in the first place.Again, I ask that you pray. Pray for all those who are suffering. Pray for all of those who are trying to minister on this site. Pray that our hearts will become more loving and more forgiving. Pray that we all overcome.
You guys are not seeing the forest for the trees. Please, take some time and pray about this. If you remember Scripture, Jesus determined that the young man was more important than the herd of pigs, or the owner of the pigs. (No, I am not calling anyone a pig.) I am just saying that maybe this one or even two or three precious souls are more important than them thar RULES!
Lisa
Just a reminder, Lisa, that the pigs were raised to be sacrifices to Zeus. Believe me, Jesus didn't give a fig about them because the owner should not have been raising them in the first place.
Yes, I was contacted over a month ago. I said it was a very bad idea and suggested creating a safe haven offsite.My question still stands.
Yes, I was contacted over a month ago. I said it was a very bad idea and suggested creating a safe haven offsite.
I wasn't contacted about the 3-day, 6 person decisionmaking thread. 3 other members of the pastoral team were not contacted.
Lisa, you know I adore you, but that isn't my point. What about all the other souls who would rather discuss their pain in private? Why is this the only forum that will be run this way? These are not the only souls suffering, and I am trying to figure out why they matter more than others. It seems to me that one has to be a bully to get help then. That doesn't seem right. If I start running around being horrible to others and claim I have no control over it, do I then get my own private forum? No, I get banned. It doesn't seem right to me, I am truly sorry. I so strongly disagree with this, it makes me want to cry. I would love to have a place where I could discuss my own past without tons of other eyes, it would help me so much. So why just THIS subforum. We keep being told it is because there is no secrecy here, but clearly that isn't true.Yeah, I know, but still...
It just seems we are more concerned with the legality of this new forum than we are about the souls within it.
Lisa
If ya ever need an ear, I'm around, if for some reason you can't find me on this site, google me I'm all over the netLet's face it. The ONLY issue here is that those who want to flame, lie, pass judgments and abuse certain people on this forum simply won't be able to do so here and that has them spitting mad and scrambling for anything and everything they can use as an excuse to try to pitch a fit over it. Bottom line is, anyone with true sight can see what's going on here. The rest have agendas. Awwww you're taking away our favorite game of bait and flame, gee what will we do for entertainment now. Enough already. The forum exists and all you have done here is given clear indication of (a) why it was desperately needed and (b) who will never be granted access.
carry on with your flame and blame and judgment and slander fest ... i have better things to do and MUCH more enticing Company awaiting me.
Yeah, I know, but still...
It just seems we are more concerned with the legality of this new forum than we are about the souls within it.
Lisa
none taken - just making sure the air is clear for folks here - some christians do beleive that alcoholism IS demon possession, not for what it really is."Demons" is a generalized term that many recovering alcoholics do use. If you're not one of them who uses that term, take no offense.
Lisa, you know I adore you, but that isn't my point. What about all the other souls who would rather discuss their pain in private? Why is this the only forum that will be run this way? These are not the only souls suffering, and I am trying to figure out why they matter more than others. It seems to me that one has to be a bully to get help then. That doesn't seem right. If I start running around being horrible to others and claim I have no control over it, do I then get my own private forum? No, I get banned. It doesn't seem right to me, I am truly sorry. I so strongly disagree with this, it makes me want to cry. I would love to have a place where I could discuss my own past without tons of other eyes, it would help me so much. So why just THIS subforum. We keep being told it is because there is no secrecy here, but clearly that isn't true.
But that is not true Lisa. The whole point to me is that we all care very much. We don't understand how having a secret and private forum can help people.
How can new members even find this forum if they are suffering in the same way as Moriah and others.
How come most of the Pastor Team didn't even know about this forum, when they should of been part of the planning.
How come the wiki founders of this forum only want to have particular members that they vote on accepted.
How can this kind of exclusion be good for them or anyone who wants to help them and pray with them with respect and kindness.
Who is qualified to really counsel them? How can the blind lead the blind. I mean, it's good that those who are suffering that they have a forum to receive support and comfort and words of hope and prayers... and hopefully some guidance based on the Word of God with the love of Christ?
You see, this isn't about beating up anyone or martyring anyone... this is sincere concern out of love...
You know. for someone tagging themselves "anti drama queen" you sure do like to stir the drama. Could we QUIT with the BASHING already..... ENOUGH of you singling me out for your filthy judgments STOP LYING ABOUT ME.
Seashale, I'm sorry, but many people have experienced abuse at the hands of a church and no longer trust churches, and likewise, trusting people has become very hard. I'm not saying this applies to your church, but many people who profess to be Christians are far from Christ-like towards members or former members of the occult, and that is exactly why this forum was created - to serve as a place of refuge.
How can new members even find this forum is they are suffering in the same way as Moriah and others.
How come most of the Pastor Team didn't even know about this forum, when they should of been part of the planning.
[How come the wiki founders of this forum only want to have particular members that they vote on accepted./QUOTE]
Because the founders are often attacked by people and want a safe haven from these attacks, hence the name City of Refuge. New members will be accepted if there are no significant objections and they have been shown be helpful and caring.
How can this kind of exclusion be good for them or anyone who wants to help them and pray with them with respect and kindness.
It is good for them because hostility and rage are very dangerous emotions, and it would be wise to keep these emotions out of Beth She'an as much as possible. I have no objection to non-members praying for the members, providing it is a helpful and considerate prayer done out of love.
Who is qualified to really counsel them? How can the blind lead the blind. I mean, it's good that those who are suffering that they have a forum to receive support and comfort and words of hope and prayers... and hopefully some guidance based on the Word of God with the love of Christ?
The blind aren't leading the blind here. There is pastoral and recovery team oversight as well as Christian members (like me) who will try to show God's love.
You see, this isn't about beating up anyone or martyring anyone... this is sincere concern out of love...
I have no objection to genuine concern from love. What I do have an objection to is a witch-hunt and people who have a desire to remove something that they do not fully understand.
Hopefully I have answered at least one of your questions.
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