Reconciled to God while enemies !

[Brightfame52]

do we continue to be enemies, instead of friends, when are we HIs friend (( and not HIs enemy)....


John 15:15
Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

John 15:14
Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

John 15:
12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

1 John 3:16
Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

Hi Post 418 did you read it and understand it ?

 

[Peacemaker1]

No conditions to be reconciled !

Not all men are reconciled to God by Christ's death while being enemies, and thats simply because Christ's death was not for everyone without exception. Thats why some are reconciled to God while being enemies and unbelievers Rom 5:10 and why some are under Gods wrath and condemnation while being enemies and unbelievers Jn 3:18,36 !

There is simply only one explanation for this, Christ died for some who are enemies and unbelievers and did not die for others who are enemies and unbelievers !

The enemies and unbelievers that Christ died for are reconciled to God by it, did not perform any conditions whatsoever, because they were actively enemies and unbelievers, So Christ fulfilled all the conditions necessary for them to be reconciled to God while being enemies and unbelievers !13

The action they did was to become believers, and the action they did was to become friends.

Just like if I did not know somebody, and they made peace with me, I accept their friendship, and both are friends.



Ephesians 2:15
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

2 Thessalonians 1:10
When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

 

[Peacemaker1]

So its scriptural to declare, those reconciled to God while enemies in Rom 5:10, have no sin imputed to them as Per 2 Cor 5:19, which declares them Righteous without works in Rom 4:6-8 ! To deny this is to deny scripture Truth. To deny that those reconciled to God by Christ's death while enemies as Per Rom 5:10 that they are Righteous and Justified before God while enemies, is to deny clear teaching of scripture and puts one in Unbelief ! 11

Faith is a work, Christ did works, the works Christ did are the faith we believe in, we do not believe in that faith of Christ without doing the same works, ( of faith) as they are love, love is God, to not abide in love is to deny God ( thats what the antichrist tries to do on the forum and world)

 

[Peacemaker1]

By Christ's Death we are accepted of God !

This is that Blessed Truth of Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

This teaches us a very blessed and gracious Truth, which the proud religionists cannot receive, and that is, even when those Christ died for are being enemies, unbelievers, ungodly, God has accepted them into His Favor, sees them as Just, and Righteous, and reckons them as if they never had sinned.

The word reconciled in Rom 5:10 is the greek word katallassō and means:

I.to change, exchange, as coins for others of equivalent value

A.to reconcile (those who are at variance)


B.return to favour with, be reconciled to one


C.to receive one into favour

And these have been Justified, which are reconciled while enemies because God will not impute sin unto them 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

So those reconciled here in 2 Cor 5:19 are the same ones of Rom 5:10 and so the reconciled enemies in Rom 5:10 dont have sin charged to them, even when they are unbelieving enemies, nor is faith and repentance required, no they are totally accepted of God without them,

So to teach, even suggest that any for whom Christ died[He did not die for everyone] must first come to Him in repentance in order to be accepted of God, saved or Justified before God, made right with Him, they are false witnesses, and scripture here Rom 5:10 condemns them as such !

Christ died for all, and all have to repent, they repent by not being hard hearted to the message of the meek lowly Lord, by being against the exalted serpent deceiver, its a simple message.

 

[Brightfame52]

Reconciliation by Christs death is not just unilateral !

The terrible mistake of false religion is to believe and teach that Christs death is only unilateral in its effect, but that is a grave
mistake. You see, that makes the death of Christ falling short of reconciling , bringing man to God, which the scripture teaches that it does. Peter writes of the death of Christ this fact 1 Pet 3:18

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

See, His suffering for our sins was for the purpose of bringing us to God ! He by it, leads us to God. It also :

1. to render one acceptable to God
   
   It does that which God told cain that if he did well he would be accepted Gen 4:7
   
   7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted?
   
   
   
   Well Christ death, for all whom He suffered and died for causes them to be accepted of God, without them doing anything !
   
   Christ's reconciling death will also cause us to come to God in being saved to the uttermost Heb 7:25
   
   25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
   
   Notice " them that come to God BY HIM ! Meaning His reconciling work which brings them to God 1 Pet 3:18 !
   
   Paul writes also Col 1: 21,22a
   
   21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled. How ?
   
   22a 22 In the body of his flesh through death,
   
   So those who teach that Christ's death effected only a unilateral reconciliation, they teach lies, they teach ignorantly, and do Christ's death accomplishment a disservice !13

 

[Peacemaker1]

Reconciliation is Salvation !

If anyone tells us that Reconciliation is not Salvation, dont believe it, its a lie. The fact is reconciliation is Salvation in that its Peace with God. We read Col 1:20

20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

This peace through reconciliation by the blood of Christ is Preached as good tidings of Salvation, for we read again in Rom 10:15

15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Now Rom 10:15 is taken from Isa 52:7

7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!

The Gospel of Peace which is the result of reconciliation Rom 10:15

And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Eph 6:15

And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

Eph 2:17

And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

This is also the Gospel of Salvation Isa 52:7

How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!

Its the word of reconciliation established by the Blood of Christ 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

If anyone through the blood of Christ has been reconciled to God, they have with God Peace and Salvation, and it will be Preached to them !

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examples speak louder then words.

we see the pattern of apostle Paul to follow, why would anyone follow anyone who says to do nothing.



2 Peter 3:15
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;



1 Timothy 1:16
Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

 

[Brightfame52]

The action they did was to become believers, and the action they did was to become friends.

Just like if I did not know somebody, and they made peace with me, I accept their friendship, and both are friends.



Ephesians 2:15
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

2 Thessalonians 1:10
When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

This is error.

 

[Peacemaker1]

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening[life giving] spirit. That is His Life referred to in Rom 5:10 that they shall be saved by !

And so we know this is not true of all mankind without exception, hence Christ did not die for all mankind without exception , unless we come to embrace the heresy of universalism and make the false claim that all mankind without exception shall be saved by Christs Life !

Romans 5:18
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

 

[Brightfame52]

Christ died for all, and all have to repent, they repent by not being hard hearted to the message of the meek lowly Lord, by being against the exalted serpent deceiver, its a simple message.

More error and conditioning salvation on man

 

[Peacemaker1]

Men and Women whom Christ died for, they partake of His Saving Benefits, because Hes their Saviour, while they themselves are enemies and unbelievers. They, unlike the rest of mankind whom He did not die for, are reconciled to God, and abide in His acceptance and favor Rom 5:10, while others are under His Wrath and Condemnation while they are being enemies and unbelievers Jn 3:18,36 ! So thats how we know that some have taken part of Christ's Saving Death when enemies and unbelievers, and some have not while enemies and unbelievers, so how do you explain that ? 12

i explain that this is cult teaching, join my club or you are out, thats what the false prophets taught, but they are the ones out.


its right now apparent which is true, your version of exclusivity, or the one of an open door, which all can pass through.

in my version, i control nothing, they have their minds and hearts open to see that Christ is the way, not me, not anyone else, and we all follow together, now they can choose you, or not you.

 

[Peacemaker1]

More error and conditioning salvation on man

exactly, thats what I just said about your doctrine, mine is unlimited, yours is restrictive.

 

[Peacemaker1]

darkness is restrictive, exclusive, but light is open to all, see again..

where is your light evidenced brightfame.


Matthew 5:
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Matthew 5:16
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

 

[Peacemaker1]

God lets light shine to all, light cant not shine to all, now it is shining, how are you going to darken it.

 

[Peacemaker1]

and i say that Christ died for all, so that all believe in Him, not in man, who says that they must hear him, and not Christ who died for all.

1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

 

[Peacemaker1]

try extinguishing the light, it will be fun to see you try.

 

[Peacemaker1]

but, if you do speak, all will see the light speak too, and they will see which is better.


Ecclesiastes 2:13 Then I saw that wisdom excelleth folly, as far as light excelleth darkness.

 

[Peacemaker1]

we cant see in darkness, satan has us all under darkness, now we all turn to God.


Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

 

[Peacemaker1]

faith is in Christ, in the light, he healed all, that is evidence that Christ turns away from nobody. ( FREE GIFT)


Matthew 12:15
But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all;

 

[Peacemaker1]

i hope you dont mind a different way to the one you present, and the forum can decide if yours is heresy or my way is, as one must be, they oppose one another.

 

[Peacemaker1]

this is the challenge, does the so called Christian forum chose the righteousness, if i can decide what is righteousness, or it allows all, without having any evident belief at all.