Reconciled to God while enemies !

[Brightfame52]

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.


All for whom Christ died, have been reconciled to God, by His death alone, not by their obedience, not by their faith, not by their repentance, but even while they were being enemies, unbelievers, children of wrath as others BY NATURE, now if this be the case, their being reconciled, they cannot be under condemnation and wrath as others Jn 3:18,36 even while being unbelievers !

You see, they cannot be both condemned and under wrath as enemies and reconciled to God as enemies at the same time !

 

[d taylor]

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God took away people's sin, but that still does not give everyone the Life of God. Which is required to spend eternity with God on the new earth and the only way to receive The Life of God is by belief in Jesus.

So an unbeliever is condemned not because of their sin, which has been taken away. But because they never received God's free gift of Eternal Life by belief in Jesus.

 

[bling]

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.


All for whom Christ died, have been reconciled to God, by His death alone, not by their obedience, not by their faith, not by their repentance, but even while they were being enemies, unbelievers, children of wrath as others BY NATURE, now if this be the case, their being reconciled, they cannot be under condemnation and wrath as others Jn 3:18,36 even while being unbelievers !

You see, they cannot be both condemned and under wrath as enemies and reconciled to God as enemies at the same time !

Not sure what you are trying to teach/tell us here?

God does not need anything to be reconciled to man, but man needs something to be reconciled to God.

 

[Brightfame52]

@Aaron112

Repentance from all sin is necessary to be reconciled.

Are you saying Christs death alone didn't reconcile them he died for to God as stated in Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

 

[Brightfame52]

I'm saying sinners who continue sinning, unsaved, remain unsaved.

I dont see how this comment is even relevant. This is about the death of Christ reconciled to God them He died for while being enemies. You either believe it or you dont.

 

[Brightfame52]

I believe there are multitudes unforgiven, unrepentant, not reconciled to God,
they are still living in sin and subject to the penalty of death for their sin.

Sure there are, but Christ didnt die for them.

 

[Unqualified]

Christ died for all men, all sin. But they haven’t accepted it. Christ did it but the have not made the decision to be reconciled to Him.

 

[d taylor]

For some as noted in Scripture "there NO LONGER remains a sacrifice for their sin(s)"...
i.e. sin not taken away, nor forgiven.

The verse in Hebrews you are referencing is not addressing unbelievers.

A Punishment Worse Than Death — Hebrews 10:26-31 – Grace Evangelical Society

 

[Brightfame52]

Christ died for all men, all sin. But they haven’t accepted it. Christ did it but the have not made the decision to be reconciled to Him.

False witness, Those whom Christ died for were reconciled to God by His death, so they are legally saved.

 

[Unqualified]

False witness, Those whom Christ died for were reconciled to God by His death, so they are legally saved.

John 3:18

 

[Brightfame52]

John 3:18

Those whom Christ died for were reconciled to God by His death, so they are legally saved.

 

[Clare73]

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
All for whom Christ died, have been reconciled to God, by His death alone, not by their obedience, not by their faith, not by their repentance, but even while they were being enemies, unbelievers, children of wrath as others BY NATURE, now if this be the case, their being reconciled, they cannot be under condemnation and wrath as others Jn 3:18,36 even while being unbelievers !
You see, they cannot be both condemned and under wrath as enemies and reconciled to God as enemies at the same time !

They aren't. You are treating eternity and time as though they are the same, which they are not.

 

[Unqualified]

Those whom Christ died for were reconciled to God by His death, so they are legally saved.

But not actually. Nobody is saved by the law, and nobody is saved until they believe in Jesus. God came our way with this but we have to come his way and believe it, take part in it. You can’t take that scripture alone because there are others that limit it. The ones he died for are the believers. He died for the sins of the world, but you have to repent to take advantage of it or you are still in your sins and not saved. John 3:16

 

[Unqualified]

Christ died that all men and women could be saved. Are you a Calvinist or something?

 

[Brightfame52]

They aren't. You are treating eternity and time as though they are the same, which they are not.

They are, you are denying Truth !

 

[Brightfame52]

But not actually. Nobody is saved by the law, and nobody is saved until they believe in Jesus. God came our way with this but we have to come his way and believe it, take part in it. You can’t take that scripture alone because there are others that limit it. The ones he died for are the believers. He died for the sins of the world, but you have to repent to take advantage of it or you are still in your sins and not saved. John 3:16

Yes they are actually legally saved, sins forgiven, in the favor of God, reconciled to God

 

[Brightfame52]

One of the reasons why everyone Christ died for are reconciled to God by His Death only, even while they are enemies or unbelievers , is because there is no sins against God's Law imputed to them, Christ's death has paid in full for them, and God has nothing against them, even while they themselves are enemies and unbelievers.

So its impossible for unbelievers whom Christ died for, to at anytime be considered one of the unbelievers pointed out here Jn 3:18 or Jn 3:36 !

Those are only unbelievers Christ did not die for and did not reconciled to God by His Death !

 

[Clare73]

They are,

Can't help you with that.

 

[Brightfame52]

All those reconciled to God by the Death of His Son, even while they were experientially being enemies in and of themselves by nature, even children of wrath as others by nature, yet through being reconciled to God, and accepted in His Favor, they must therefore be Perfect in His sight, because God accepts no one or thing less than Perfection, for His Holiness demands it. Whatever, if its not absolutely Perfect, Cannot be accepted with God ! But that Death of Christ, by which all for whom Christ died, and did reconcile to God thereby, even while being enemies, that Death of His or His Offering of Himself for them, made them Perfect before God ! Heb 10:14

14 For by one offering[His Death] he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

 

[fhansen]

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.


All for whom Christ died, have been reconciled to God, by His death alone, not by their obedience, not by their faith, not by their repentance, but even while they were being enemies, unbelievers, children of wrath as others BY NATURE, now if this be the case, their being reconciled, they cannot be under condemnation and wrath as others Jn 3:18,36 even while being unbelievers !

You see, they cannot be both condemned and under wrath as enemies and reconciled to God as enemies at the same time !

Being reconciled with God means obedience, or else there’s either been no reconciliation-or we’ve trampled upon and forfeited it.