Radioactive dating

[Paul of Eugene OR]

That depends where the vacuum IS!

Not in real science.

 

[dad]

Not in real science.

Exactly. Science has not ventured to the stars. The idea that light moves at the same speed there is not known.

 

[Loudmouth]

Dream on. You have none, and never had and and will never have any proof for your godless state past. Trying to pretend that gives you a victory of some sort simply shows how defeated you really are.

Then please show me what the ratios of isotopes should really look like for a same state past. If you claim that the evidence is not consistent with a same state past, then show us how the evidence should be different.

 

[dad]

Then please show me what the ratios of isotopes should really look like for a same state past. If you claim that the evidence is not consistent with a same state past, then show us how the evidence should be different.

The ratios we have presumably were in the past. The real past. It seems trying to invoke your same nature and laws in the past is mostly an attempt to explain where these created things came from, by devising an imaginary way they could create themselves.

 

[Loudmouth]

The ratios we have presumably were in the past. The real past. It seems trying to invoke your same nature and laws in the past is mostly an attempt to explain where these created things came from, by devising an imaginary way they could create themselves.

I am asking you how the ratios in rocks are inconsistent with a same state past. You claim they aren't evidence, so this would mean that you can demonstrate how they are not consistent with a same state past. So, let's have it.

How are the ratios in rocks inconsistent with a same state past?

 

[dad]

I am asking you how the ratios in rocks are inconsistent with a same state past.

You are not allowed to ask anything about some unproven fantasy! 'How would the world be different if Tinkerbell did not make it'? FIRST you prove there was a same state past, or we shove the fantasy in a fable drawer. Capice?

You claim they aren't evidence, so this would mean that you can demonstrate how they are not consistent with a same state past. So, let's have it.

No one cares what is supposedly consistent to a foolish pipe dream. This is about what we know, not about some shell game where you try to pull a fast one.

How are the ratios in rocks inconsistent with a same state past?

Because to fit that unproven fantasy one would have to leave off reason and soundness of mind and God and creation and Scripture...all for a sad little unproven godless circular belief based worthless smoke and mirror game.

 

[Loudmouth]

You are not allowed to ask anything about some unproven fantasy!

You aren't the thought police. If you can't answer the question, just say so.

How are the ratios in rocks inconsistent with a same state past?

FIRST you prove there was a same state past, or we shove the fantasy in a fable drawer.

So how does one go about proving something, in a general sense? Isn't the first step figuring out what type of evidence would be consistent with what you are trying to prove?

No one cares what is supposedly consistent to a foolish pipe dream.

You don't care what the evidence is? You don't are if the facts are consistent with a same state past?

When you ask for evidence, what are you asking for?

 

[dad]

You aren't the thought police. If you can't answer the question, just say so.

How are the ratios in rocks inconsistent with a same state past?





So how does one go about proving something, in a general sense? Isn't the first step figuring out what type of evidence would be consistent with what you are trying to prove?



You don't care what the evidence is? You don't are if the facts are consistent with a same state past?

When you ask for evidence, what are you asking for?

Tell us what would evidence look like for a same state past? History shows it was different. It seems you are in denial that you have no evidence for your claimed same pasta state past.

 

[Loudmouth]

Tell us what would evidence look like for a same state past? History shows it was different.

How do stories in books determine what history was like?

It seems you are in denial that you have no evidence for your claimed same pasta state past.

I am asking you to define what you are asking for so that we can figure out what you are asking for. Define evidence. Describe what it is.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Exactly. Science has not ventured to the stars. The idea that light moves at the same speed there is not known.

The idea that light moves at the same speed there is known and exists throughout academia. You have no evidence to dispute it.

 

[dad]

The idea that light moves at the same speed there is known and exists throughout academia. You have no evidence to dispute it.

False! No one from that cult has been to the stars. We are not talking about on earth or near here.

 

[dad]

How do stories in books determine what history was like?

What, they should toss out old records and ask you what really went down?

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

False! No one from that cult has been to the stars. We are not talking about on earth or near here.

Which explains your lack of evidence against the common assumption among the scientists.

 

[dad]

Which explains your lack of evidence against the common assumption among the scientists.

Ever notice almost everything you utter is an appeal to blind faith and trust in man over God's word?

 

[Loudmouth]

What, they should toss out old records and ask you what really went down?

Where is the evidence that they are records?

Also, are you saying that we can't use observations in the present to determine what happened in the past?

 

[dad]

Where is the evidence that they are records?

What would you call the record of history, as flawed as it may be in some cases..a tomato??

Also, are you saying that we can't use observations in the present to determine what happened in the past?

Science can't, not when it comes to the far past, and telling us the way it really was. They might be able to tell us a few things, but the intricate alternate creation dream deceptions are total bunk.

 

[Loudmouth]

What would you call the record of history,

How do you determine what does or doesn't belong to the record of history?

Science can't, not when it comes to the far past, and telling us the way it really was.

Why not?

Are you saying that you will never accept any observation as evidence for a same state past?

 

[dad]

How do you determine what does or doesn't belong to the record of history?

Does is agree with God's history? All the rest I take with a huge grain of salt, but I do not doubt real people wrote it and that it contains useful info in many cases.

Why not?

Are you saying that you will never accept any observation as evidence for a same state past?

No. I am saying I accept it all! What I reject is the godless dreaming and unholy prognostications of so called science about what it means.

 

[Loudmouth]

Does is agree with God's history?

How do you determine what God's history is?

All the rest I take with a huge grain of salt, but I do not doubt real people wrote it and that it contains useful info in many cases.

How is it useful?

No. I am saying I accept it all! What I reject is the godless dreaming and unholy prognostications of so called science about what it means.

Then what observations would a real same state past produce? What ratios would rocks have if there was a same state past? If you claim I am dreaming, then show me how I am wrong.

 

[dad]

How do you determine what God's history is?

Same way Jesus did.

How is it useful?

Sumer talked of long life spans. The poor pagans can't be counted on to say how long, but it is useful to know it was a lot longer than today. Egypt noted spirit or god kings in the early years....etc.

Then what observations would a real same state past produce?

We are not discussing fantasies here. Show real observations. You might as well ask what observations would a tooth fairy made world produce?

If you claim I am dreaming, then show me how I am wrong.

Make a claim and maybe I will.