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[bhsmte]

Why would it become a priority in the first place?
And why not choose any of other reasonable ones? Millions of people ARE doing that right now.
Christianity should collapse long long time ago.

Become familiar with the "psychology of belief" and you will understand what I am referring to.

 

[bhsmte]

Why would it become a priority in the first place?
And why not choose any of other reasonable ones? Millions of people ARE doing that right now.
Christianity should collapse long long time ago.

Here is a fact.

When people are exposed to certain levels of education, Christianity tends to decline. Christianity has been declining, for many decades, in countries with high quality education and high qualities of life.

 

[popsthebuilder]

The Holy Spirit lives in me. It is very reasonable.
But I am not both a man and God. It is not a reasonable situation.
Christianity says: Jesus is both a man and God. Do you believe it?

Muslims, Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses represent groups of highly intelligent people. They do not believe that. So, do not be shamed to say no.

Read the first part of the post you quoted. Then the second. I am wall aware of the dangers of worshipping man as if utterly equal to the one creator GOD. At the same time, to proclaim that you know without a doubt (have faith) that the only pure son of man was not GOD in the flesh for our sake and understanding is limiting the abilities of the One Creator GOD in my opinion. Based on what God has shown me; I cannot justify that claim fully.

No other one man will be equivalent to Jesus the Christ. To be of Crist is to be in touch with or connected to the holy spirit that God may impart, and to follow that direction wholly, leaving the bindings of sin behind.

Peace

 

[popsthebuilder]

Why would it become a priority in the first place?
And why not choose any of other reasonable ones? Millions of people ARE doing that right now.
Christianity should collapse long long time ago.

That's a terrible thing to say. The Faith of those who have been mislead in some way severing connection to some extent are blessed in their Faith in God in regardless of circumstance. All Faith will change, not just traditional Christianity.

2¢
Peace

 

[popsthebuilder]

Here is a fact.

When people are exposed to certain levels of education, Christianity tends to decline. Christianity has been declining, for many decades, in countries with high quality education and high qualities of life.

Belief in God has strengthened within the scientific community lately. Are you really trying to say that believers are stupid? Do you realize how many faithful to GOD there actually are? What is the point in singling out Christianity in general?

Any can come to the knowledge of God by the will of God and faith in him.

 

[bhsmte]

Belief in God has strengthened within the scientific community lately. Are you really trying to say that believers are stupid? Do you realize how many faithful to GOD there actually are? What is the point in singling out Christianity in general?

Any can come to the knowledge of God by the will of God and faith in him.

There exists a strong correlation between; higher levels of education attained and less belief in religion.

There are some very intelligent believers, but this correlation is very clear.

 

[popsthebuilder]

There exists a strong correlation between; higher levels of education attained and less belief in religion.

There are some very intelligent believers, but this correlation is very clear.

Standardized "education" isn't synonymous with knowledge. Or things pertinent to reality other than the falsified sham man has made in his name.

Nonbelief for the sake of it is a fad brought on in part by cyclic, literal interpretation and understanding only on every level. Some otherwise quite capable minds adhere to the doctrine of the physical being the extent of existence even though the hypothesis of quantization and the theory of dark matter clearly show otherwise.

Anyway, saying that those whom believe in a singular creative force for all of existence as we know it, or rather don't, is very foolish indeed.

 

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Thanks. And there are more. (I listed one and it took a few pages here for Freodin to be confused about)
Christianity is so unique and so strange. It is "unbelievable". Human is not able to figure out this kind of doctrine.

Yes. The kenosis. What other faith would contain that.

 

[bhsmte]

Standardized "education" isn't synonymous with knowledge. Or things pertinent to reality other than the falsified sham man has made in his name.

Nonbelief for the sake of it is a fad brought on in part by cyclic, literal interpretation and understanding only on every level. Some otherwise quite capable minds adhere to the doctrine of the physical being the extent of existence even though the hypothesis of quantization and the theory of dark matter clearly show otherwise.

Anyway, saying that those whom believe in a singular creative force for all of existence as we know it, or rather don't, is very foolish indeed.

Listen, you can twist it however you like.

I am only stating this, which many studies support; the higher education one achieves, the less likely they are to be religious and or believe in Gods.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Listen, you can twist it however you like.

I am only stating this, which many studies support; the higher education one achieves, the less likely they are to be religious and or believe in Gods.

Twist this around however you like; man is not the highest power obviously. All existence follows order and direction observable through mathematics. The Universe is thought to have expands from a seemingly infinitely smaller source. Even if you decide in Your human understanding that all came from mere chance then surely you can ascertain. That something greater than us gave and or gives us that chance.

What is your personal stance if you don't mind?

 

[juvenissun]

Read the first part of the post you quoted. Then the second. I am wall aware of the dangers of worshipping man as if utterly equal to the one creator GOD. At the same time, to proclaim that you know without a doubt (have faith) that the only pure son of man was not GOD in the flesh for our sake and understanding is limiting the abilities of the One Creator GOD in my opinion. Based on what God has shown me; I cannot justify that claim fully.

No other one man will be equivalent to Jesus the Christ. To be of Crist is to be in touch with or connected to the holy spirit that God may impart, and to follow that direction wholly, leaving the bindings of sin behind.

Peace

Why do you label your faith as "other religion"? What religion?

 

[variant]

I'm interested to hear if any non-believers have seriously considered believing in God based on an argument or reason they heard from someone else, either on these forums or elsewhere.

I would think that those of you who have been on these forums for an extended period of time would have come across some argument or reason that has brought you close to believing in God, but maybe the opposite is true, maybe all the arguments just reaffirm your non-belief.

Do share if you want, thanks!

I think that pretty much all of the arguments for the existence of God are terrible, which is why I'm not a believer in the first place.

Could there be a God? Sure. Is there any reason to think there is one? No.

Once I got down to the actual reasoning for keeping religion in the first place religiousness was pretty much impossible to maintain for me.

 

[variant]

Twist this around however you like; man is not the highest power obviously. All existence follows order and direction observable through mathematics. The Universe is thought to have expands from a seemingly infinitely smaller source. Even if you decide in Your human understanding that all came from mere chance then surely you can ascertain. That something greater than us gave and or gives us that chance.

What is your personal stance if you don't mind?

Not believing in God doesn't mean that I think the universe is the result of random chance.

 

[variant]

Okay so you think there's is no evidence either way? So the truth of whether an eternal God exists or not will never be determined by anyone ever? Is that really a reasonable position to hold considering humans are pretty intelligent and capable of discovering amazing truths?

God isn't defined in such a way that we might be able to honestly investigate it's presence or absence. First you need to be able to make some observation that can help us differentiate between a universe that has a God and one that doesn't.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Not believing in God doesn't mean that I think the universe is the result of random chance.

For some it does.

 

[variant]

For some it does.

That was the implication of the post I replied to, It is incorrect.

 

[popsthebuilder]

That was the implication of the post I replied to, It is incorrect.

It's only implied towards those that indeed think that all arose from chance. If that isn't you the it wasn't for you and furthermore, if it doesn't apply to you then you are not in a position to judge it's veracity.

 

[variant]

It's only implied towards those that indeed think that all arose from chance. If that isn't you the it wasn't for you and furthermore, if it doesn't apply to you then you are not in a position to judge it's veracity.

Given that I don't think the person you were replying to mentioned that belief either I am going to go with the necessity of pointing out to you that it is not necessary to be an atheist.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Given that I don't think the person you were replying to mentioned that belief either I am going to go with the necessity of pointing out to you that it is not necessary to be an atheist.

Wow. I didn't say it was, and politely ask that you let people speak for themselves as opposed to stereotyping them as you accuse me of doing.

Thanks.
Peace

 

[variant]

Wow. I didn't say it was, and politely ask that you let people speak for themselves as opposed to stereotyping them as you accuse me of doing.

Thanks.
Peace

Didn't accuse you of doing anything, just pointed out a fact where I thought it was appropriate to do so.

Feel free to be as offended as you like.

"There is order in the universe that does not arise purely from chance" does not a theist make.