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What if the person was a serial killer who just got released on a technicality? Would you all still save them?

Yes. God has not given us the authority to pass final judgment. If you can save them, then attempt to do so.

The Bible says 13because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment James 2:13

I would hope that if I were in the same situation, that someone would choose mercy over judgment.

I'm certainly glad that Christ chose mercy over final judgment for me! :bow::bow:
 
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Save her life. She did not make the choice for the those who decided on their own to leave Christianity. She is not ultimately responsible.

Regardless of how I view her ideals and what not, she has just as much a right to life as I do.

Totally agree. Human life no matter how confused is worth saving...period. I would tell her after she regains her breath, that I am a Christian and maybe, just maybe, it was God's Will for me to be right here, right now.

I would use the situation as an opportunity to tell her about my personal relationship with Jesus Christ. She would have to listen, wouldn't she?
 
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Of course you save her.

Everyone has a personal choice on whether they will believe in God or not, and to deny God because of what an atheist says is merely proof that you do not have Faith.

Everyone who has converted and everyone who will convert in the future deserve what comes to them for leaving the Faith as it was their choice.

We have free will and I encourage skeptics to criticize Christianity.

People who are strong Christians do not get deconverted, and people who do not put effort forth to become strong Christians ought to rather call themselves atheists anyways.

I'd rather Christianity got rid of our hypocrites - I encourage people to deconvert weak Christians who do not bother to read the Bible.

I'd like to put out as a note: I have never found an atheist argument after age 15 that I found 'surprising!' or 'shocking!' or 'eye opening!'

You'd have to be ignorant or youthful to be persuaded by atheism away from Christianity.

i sooooooo agree.

this is a pet peeve of mine.
 
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Jesus Christ IS the perfect man because He IS the perfect God, the only God, and He instills in each of us a perfect Spirit, His Spirit.

It is my flesh that is imperfect. Christianity has nothing to do with that...it is the opposite of it. So, every question of this nature is answered the same way.

Save the life. We as humans have the power at times to save the physical life. God can work through this when we give Him the glory instead of ourselves...but even that is not a prerequisite.
 
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One more thing and I will shut up. This thread really opened my heart back up. I was getting real sarcastic and even a little hateful with some folks in this forum and this thread made me stop and think again that we are all God's children, even those who are bound and determined to ignore God Almighty.

Thanks you guys and gals...even the OP for asking the right question at the right time.
 
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One more thing and I will shut up. This thread really opened my heart back up. I was getting real sarcastic and even a little hateful with some folks in this forum and this thread made me stop and think again that we are all God's children, even those who are bound and determined to ignore God Almighty.

Thanks you guys and gals...even the OP for asking the right question at the right time.

love this my brother in Christ......this has happened to me many times....

:)
 
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Where would we be if someone had let Paul die because he killed all those Christians.

In a world without militant Islam.

I would save her obviously.

Then I would use the Word of God to convince her to abandon her allegiance to Satan.

How do you propose to do that? And no allegiance to Satan was proposed, simply a lack of belief in God. Satan, presumably, believes in God.

You'd have to be ignorant or youthful to be persuaded by atheism away from Christianity.

It worked for me, and I am neither especially ignorant nor particularly youthful. You have implied that all former Christians who are now atheists have the mental capacity of a 15-year-old. That's a broad brush to paint for someone enjoined to "judge not lest ye be judged."

No real Christian can ever be deconverted so that atheist woman has effectively taken some counterfeits out of Christianity and concentrated us Christians into a more potent substance.

I was a Christian. Now I am not. Upon what basis can you claim that I was not a true Christian?

Your argument is guilty of the No True Scotsman fallacy. Here's how it works:

"Christians can't be deconverted."

"I was a Christian, and now I'm not."

"Well then, you were never a true Christian to begin with!"

The argument is a fallacy because it renders itself impossible to refute with a simple word trick. You put a new spin on it, though, by saying that not only was I a fake Christian, but that I was manufactured by Satan. Fair warning, all, I'm a Christian robot of the Devil's device!

The fact is that Christians with faith as strong as yours are converted all the time, to other faiths and to atheism. It's not an instant process, and it often takes years, but it happens.

I would use the situation as an opportunity to tell her about my personal relationship with Jesus Christ. She would have to listen, wouldn't she?

Well, probably, but only because she would be gasping for air and recovering from shock.

But to be serious, if it were me, and someone chose to use the moments after saving my life to preach to me about their faith, I would do them the courtesy of listening. I would do that anyway, but it especially in this case, it seems to be a small thing to do to show thanks.

Notice that I said "listening," not "agreeing." I would still make all the usual demands for evidence, and I would still ask as many questions as my oxygen-deprived larynx would allow.

Save her. I'm guessing that a near death experience might give her a whole new perspective on life and what happens after death.

I had a near-fatal accident just last winter. It was one yard that separated me from certain death or disfigurement, and I walked away unharmed. The experience certainly gave me a whole new perspective on life. It was a powerful reminder that life is finite, that the number of years ahead can only go down, and that I had better figure out what it is I wanted from my time here and get after it.

It brought me no close to believing in God, though. Only seeing some evidence would do that.
 
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Save her. I'm guessing that a near death experience might give her a whole new perspective on life and what happens after death.
Er... or make her more cynical towards it. :sorry:
 
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It worked for me, and I am neither especially ignorant nor particularly youthful. You have implied that all former Christians who are now atheists have the mental capacity of a 15-year-old. That's a broad brush to paint for someone enjoined to "judge not lest ye be judged."

Mathhew 7:1 is followed by verses 2 through 5. :) It is a passage about how to righteously judge. It is not about NOT judging.:thumbsup:



I was a Christian. Now I am not. Upon what basis can you claim that I was not a true Christian?

I have been asked not to comment on these statements.^_^
 
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Mathhew 7:1 is followed by verses 2 through 5. :) It is a passage about how to righteously judge. It is not about NOT judging.:thumbsup:





I have been asked not to comment on these statements.^_^

LOL
 
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KILL HER!!!!!!!!

JUST KIDDING

save her!!!!

God knows who will be saved and who won't be it is all in his plan. she is also an important piece of his master plan, whether she knows it or not. I am glad that there is a group of people that attacks Christianity and I can see why God allows that. It prevents a lot of people from being lukewarm Christians, or being "Christians" by name only.

Satan loves to print counterfeit Christians in order to inflate the spiritual economy and make the Christianity look less valuable. No real Christian can ever be deconverted so that atheist woman has effectively taken some counterfeits out of Christianity and concentrated us Christians into a more potent substance.

I don't agree with the atheist message at all, and I believe there are many that are called to go and counter that message with the truth. however no matter who wins the debate it is part of Gods plan to shape his people by grows or pruning and in essence God wins every debate.
Since when do you know peoples' hearts as well as God does (assuming God exists, that is)? Whether or not people were once Christians is not for you to decide. It is for God to decide. So unless you want to argue with what the Bible says, I'd stop trying to say who is and is not a Christian, if I were you.
 
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Since when do you know peoples' hearts as well as God does (assuming God exists, that is)? Whether or not people were once Christians is not for you to decide. It is for God to decide. So unless you want to argue with what the Bible says, I'd stop trying to say who is and is not a Christian, if I were you.

Actually, Bible says we get to judge within the Church to settle our own debates. Sry.
 
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Since when do you know peoples' hearts as well as God does (assuming God exists, that is)? Whether or not people were once Christians is not for you to decide. It is for God to decide. So unless you want to argue with what the Bible says, I'd stop trying to say who is and is not a Christian, if I were you.

you have compassion, dear one....you are quite the advocate.....that's a priceless trait...

it's difficult sometimes for Christians to not attempt to show others the what believe is the folly of not believing in God. The positive thing is that the post-er you responded to WOULD save the person in question....

:hug:
 
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