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Because before today, I'd never heard of Nuna/Columbia.Continental drift, so, I guess broke apart? Pangea wasn't the first supercontinent containing the majority of the land mass on this planet. That would be Columbia (also called Nuna) which existed over a billion years ago. Not sure why people act as if Pangea was the only one.
Because before today, I'd never heard of Nuna/Columbia.
I use Pangaea because it is the most recognizable one, and people know what I'm talking about.There have been several. And Nuna/Columbia was not the one that was before Pangaea:
No, Pangaea is a name we have for the last supercontinent, Eden is a location in a myth. Pangaea existed roughly 200 million years ago. Eden never existed.I use Pangaea because it is the most recognizable one, and people know what I'm talking about.
That would make sense because the dinosaurs and primates require a totally different environment.-_- but you were talking about primates existing around the time of Pangea. Pangea broke apart 175 million years ago, so absolutely no primates on Pangea. Heck, the oldest mammal fossil is 160 million years old. Also, the oldest KNOWN primate fossil is 55 million years old, so no playing with dinos for those monkeys.
Your statement is not true. He believes that: "science does not rule out the possibility of a historical Adam and Eve,". Adam and Eve were historical people that lived around 6,000 years ago in the Tigris - Euphrates river valley now known as Ancient Mesopotamia. For 50 years I have extensively studied the ancient history from this period of time.Collins knows that the Adam and Eve story is a myth.
You seem to like to use the word "myth" but this is not a Bible word. We talk about allegories and in the Bible we read about shadows and type. If we were having a discussion about Greek Mythology then they use the word "MYTH". But they do not use the worth MYTH when you are having a serious discussion about the Bible. Jung used the word "archetype". In the Bible we talk about parables. It is popular to talk about allegories today and there is a new author using words like Harbinger and Paradigm. Perhaps you never studied Greek mythology so you do not know the difference. My son is studying Computer engineering and he is required to read the Iliad. When I was in High School I was required to read the Odyssey. Some people considered Troy to be a mythological city. Now archaeology has shown that Troy in Homers book was a real city. There is no reason to believe that Helen of Troy was not a real person. That either ran off with or was kidnapped by Paris. Then when Paris and his brother were killed Helen went back to her husband. Of course to show that Troy was a real city does not make the story of Helen and Paris a true story. We just have no evidence to show that they were not real people and the story was not true. In fact this is pretty much the way they told historical stories back then. Again this is clearly not your area of expertise. Still people need to be able to distinguish between the Hebrew people and the Greek people. That is why my son is required to study and read Greek Mythology so that he does not get confused as to what mythology is and how we can gain understanding from Mythology the way Jung does with archetypes.Eden is a location in a myth.
Your statement is not true. He believes that: "science does not rule out the possibility of a historical Adam and Eve,". Adam and Eve were historical people that lived around 6,000 years ago in the Tigris - Euphrates river valley now known as Ancient Mesopotamia. For 50 years I have extensively studied the ancient history from this period of time.
Only because you keep referring to obvious myths.You seem to like to use the word "myth" but this is not a Bible word.
We talk about allegories and in the Bible we read about shadows and type. If we were having a discussion about Greek Mythology then they use the word "MYTH". But they do not use the worth MYTH when you are having a serious discussion about the Bible. Jung used the word "archetype". In the Bible we talk about parables. It is popular to talk about allegories today and there is a new author using words like Harbinger and Paradigm. Perhaps you never studied Greek mythology so you do not know the difference. My son is studying Computer engineering and he is required to read the Iliad. When I was in High School I was required to read the Odyssey. Some people considered Troy to be a mythological city. Now archaeology has shown that Troy in Homers book was a real city. There is no reason to believe that Helen of Troy was not a real person. That either ran off with or was kidnapped by Paris. Then when Paris and his brother were killed Helen went back to her husband. Of course to show that Troy was a real city does not make the story of Helen and Paris a true story. We just have no evidence to show that they were not real people and the story was not true. In fact this is pretty much the way they told historical stories back then. Again this is clearly not your area of expertise. Still people need to be able to distinguish between the Hebrew people and the Greek people. That is why my son is required to study and read Greek Mythology so that he does not get confused as to what mythology is and how we can gain understanding from Mythology the way Jung does with archetypes.
As I said many times. The director and principal in my high school were educated in Germany. So I got more of a classic education compared to what people get in the public schools. Still I do not understand why you do not have a basic understanding of literature even if you did study Geology. This should have been one of your prerequisites.
He myth-understands.You seem to like to use the word "myth" but this is not a Bible word.
On his website. He does not claim to have all the answers because ever answer creates 10 more questions. Also he has some questions he answers on belief net. As a Christian we have more answers then Scientists have apart from the Eternal Word of God. I have always said science and religion are like a left and right hand. We need both working together in symphony and in harmony.Where did he ever make this claim?
I have always said science and religion are like a left and right hand. We need both working together in symphony and in harmony.
"Well, as a scientist who's also a believer, the chance to uncover the incredible intricacies of God's creation is an occasion of worship. To be able to look, for the first time in human history, at all three billion letters of the human DNA--which I think of as God's language--it gives us just a tiny glimpse into the amazing creative power of his mind. Every discovery that we now make in science [is], for me, a chance to worship him in a broader sense, to appreciate just in a small bit the amazing grandeur of his creation. It also helps me appreciate though that as a scientist, there are limits to the kinds of questions that science can answer. And that's where I have to turn to God and seek his answers."
Read more at 'God Is Not Threatened by Our Scientific Adventures'
On his website. He does not claim to have all the answers because ever answer creates 10 more questions. Also he has some questions he answers on belief net. As a Christian we have more answers then Scientists have apart from the Eternal Word of God. I have always said science and religion are like a left and right hand. We need both working together in symphony and in harmony.
"Well, as a scientist who's also a believer, the chance to uncover the incredible intricacies of God's creation is an occasion of worship. To be able to look, for the first time in human history, at all three billion letters of the human DNA--which I think of as God's language--it gives us just a tiny glimpse into the amazing creative power of his mind. Every discovery that we now make in science [is], for me, a chance to worship him in a broader sense, to appreciate just in a small bit the amazing grandeur of his creation. It also helps me appreciate though that as a scientist, there are limits to the kinds of questions that science can answer. And that's where I have to turn to God and seek his answers."
Read more at 'God Is Not Threatened by Our Scientific Adventures'
On his website. He does not claim to have all the answers because ever answer creates 10 more questions. Also he has some questions he answers on belief net. As a Christian we have more answers then Scientists have apart from the Eternal Word of God. I have always said science and religion are like a left and right hand. We need both working together in symphony and in harmony.
"Well, as a scientist who's also a believer, the chance to uncover the incredible intricacies of God's creation is an occasion of worship. To be able to look, for the first time in human history, at all three billion letters of the human DNA--which I think of as God's language--it gives us just a tiny glimpse into the amazing creative power of his mind. Every discovery that we now make in science [is], for me, a chance to worship him in a broader sense, to appreciate just in a small bit the amazing grandeur of his creation. It also helps me appreciate though that as a scientist, there are limits to the kinds of questions that science can answer. And that's where I have to turn to God and seek his answers."
Read more at 'God Is Not Threatened by Our Scientific Adventures'
There were lots of people ON the earth. There were lots of males and lots of females. Adam and Eve was the first man and the first women. They were the first husband and the first wife. They were the first farmers and the beginning of Civilization. The list of firsts just goes on and on. To many firsts to list in a single post.If not you could simply tell me that you take the flood of Noah seriously. You could say that you believe that there were only two people at one point in the Earth's history.
The point of the interview is that Collins does not see any conflict between Science and Faith: "I don’t believe there is an inherent conflict, but I believe that humans, in our imperfect nature, sometimes imagine conflicts where there are none."The ’Evidence for Belief’: An Interview with Francis Collins
Francis collins: If Augustine, who was one of the most thoughtful, original thinkers about biblical interpretation that we’ve ever had, was unable to figure out what Genesis meant 1,600 years ago, why should we today insist that we know what it means, particularly when the interpretation chosen contradicts a wide variety of data that God has given us the chance to discover through science.
That is why I started off saying "on his website". I do not think he would have anything on the site that he does not support or believe.Actually the original quote about Adam and Eve was from Daniel Harrell (guest author on Biologos) not Francis Collins.
I didn't say it was the one before Pangaea. I said Nuna was the first one, and that Pangaea wasn't the first one. In fact, if I recall correctly, Pangea was one of if not the last... for now.There have been several. And Nuna/Columbia was not the one that was before Pangaea:
Supercontinent - Wikipedia
This is good news. The Bible student can study their Bible. The Scientist can study science and they do not have to worry about any conflict because Science confirms that the Bible is 100% accurate and true.
By Francis Collins being wrong.Francis Collins believes that Gen 1 and 2 give contradictory accounts. How can one contradict the other and still be 100% accurate?
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