Question about the flood

[Bible Highlighter]

Of course, it's what YOU think it is, isn't it? Thank goodness I have a Christian here to tell me of the error of my ways!



So?

That is not required in order to answer the question.



First, testimonials are pretty bad as evidence.

Second, it's totally irrelevant to the issue at hand.

So please stop muddying the waters.

May the Lord bless you and may you come to know His love.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Total Reality - Physical Reality = Spiritual Reality
Total Reality - Spiritual Reality = Physical Reality
Physical Reality + Spiritual Reality = Total Reality

When we compare these equations with actual reality, the parameter "Spiritual Reality" seems to equal 0.

 

[Kylie]

May the Lord bless you and may you come to know His love.

Wow, that's really arrogant.

You don't wish me happiness, or health, or peace. You wish me to believe the same as you do. You pray for your beliefs to come onto me, as though I'm not entitled to find my own path? It's incredibly arrogant to conclude that your beliefs are the right beliefs for everyone just because you happen to think they're swell.

 

[AV1611VET]

You wish me to believe the same as you do. You pray for your beliefs to come onto me, as though I'm not entitled to find my own path? It's incredibly arrogant to conclude that your beliefs are the right beliefs for everyone just because you happen to think they're swell.

We just don't want to see you at the Great White Throne Judgment.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Wow, that's really arrogant.

You don't wish me happiness, or health, or peace. You wish me to believe the same as you do. You pray for your beliefs to come onto me, as though I'm not entitled to find my own path? It's incredibly arrogant to conclude that your beliefs are the right beliefs for everyone just because you happen to think they're swell.

If you come to know the Lord's love than you will know happiness, and peace. As for health, the Lord can bless us with health, but it is not always the major focus as a part of His Kingdom here. The body is just a shell and is temporary. Many believers are persecuted and killed for their faith all over the world. They are willing to risk their lives to tell their killers about the love of Jesus because they know that Jesus can change lives for the better. But what of atheism? What can that do for them? Nothing.

 

[Kylie]

We just don't want to see you at the Great White Throne Judgment.

There won't be anyone there, since it will never happen to anyone.

 

[Kylie]

If you come to know the Lord's love than you will know happiness, and peace. As for health, the Lord can bless us with health, but it is not always the major focus as a part of His Kingdom here. The body is just a shell and is temporary. Many believers are persecuted and killed for their faith all over the world. They are willing to risk their lives to tell their killers about the love of Jesus because they know that Jesus can change lives for the better. But what of atheism? What can that do for them? Nothing.

Wow, once again the arrogance of thinking that your way must be the best way just because you've decided that it's the best way for you.

And on top of that, you've played that, "It makes you feel good, so it MUST be true" argument as well.

You're not going very well.

 

[Ygrene Imref]

What was the purpose of saving the animals?

For sacrifice, genetic longevity and purity.

There was a lot more going on than a bunch of naughty entities on Earth upsetting God, and Him deciding to end the entire world because of it.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Wow, once again the arrogance of thinking that your way must be the best way just because you've decided that it's the best way for you.

And on top of that, you've played that, "It makes you feel good, so it MUST be true" argument as well.

You're not going very well.

Christians are persecuted (tortured) for their faith. So I do not see how that is an all feel good thing in this life. Atheism offers no solution to those who are hateful and bent on destroying others (like radical Muslims). But Jesus can change lives.

May the Lord's love be upon you in all manner of good things.
May the Lord bless you;
And may you please be well.

 

[Ygrene Imref]

Hitler wasn't a Christian. In fact, he was a type of the Antichrist.

He practiced eugenics (pre-transhumanism,) thought that the Jewish people (whether physical, spiritual or both) and ethnic persons needed to be eradicated from the planet so that he could set up a "Third Realm" in the image of Asgard (or, Pleiadians/Elves depending on who you speak to, and which "tree of life" you are studying.)

He is most certainly an archetype for an antichrist.

 

[AV1611VET]

There won't be anyone there, since it will never happen to anyone.

Everyone will go to Heaven?

 

[Kylie]

Christians are persecuted (tortured) for their faith. So I do not see how that is an all feel good thing in this life. Atheism offers no solution to those who are hateful and bent on destroying others (like radical Muslims). But Jesus can change lives.

May the Lord's love be upon you in all manner of good things.
May the Lord bless you;
And may you please be well.

Christianity is by far the largest religious belief in the USA. Christians in virtually every western country are free to worship as they please, and can freely wear symbols of their faith without being persecuted. The number of Christians who are attacked for their beliefs is tiny compared to other faiths, like Islam. A person running for public office can proclaim that he is a Christian, and is not going to lose votes. But if he proclaims he is an atheist, he will lose a huge number of votes. So stop pretending that you are victimized, because you aren't.

 

[Kylie]

He practiced eugenics (pre-transhumanism,) thought that the Jewish people (whether physical, spiritual or both) and ethnic persons needed to be eradicated from the planet so that he could set up a "Third Realm" in the image of Asgard (or, Pleiadians/Elves depending on who you speak to, and which "tree of life" you are studying.)

He is most certainly an archetype for an antichrist.

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2

Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 5

Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 1

The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 10

To do justice to God and our own conscience, we have turned once more to the German Volk.

- Adolf Hitler in speech about the need for a moral regeneration of German, February 10, 1933

May divine providence bless us with enough courage and enough determination to perceive within ourselves this holy German space.

- Adolf Hitler, Speech, March 24, 1933

We don't ask the Almighty, 'Lord, make us free!" We want to be active, to work, to work together, so that when the hour comes that we appear before the Lord we can say to him: 'Lord, you see that we have changed.' The German people is no longer a people of dishonor and shame, of self-destructiveness and cowardice. No, Lord, the German people is once more strong in spirit, strong in determination, strong in the willingness to bear every sacrifice. Lord, now bless our battle and our freedom, and therefore our German people and fatherland.

- Adolf Hitler, Prayer, May 1, 1933

I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work.

- Adolf Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936

The Catholic Church should not deceive herself: if National Socialism does not succeed in defeating Bolshevism, then Church and Christianity in Europe too are finished. Bolshevism is the mortal enemy of the Church as much as of Fascism. ...Man cannot exist without belief in God. The soldier who for three and four days lies under intense bombardment needs a religious prop.

- Adolf Hitler in conversation with Cardinal Michael von Faulhaber of Bavaria, November 4, 1936

Tell me again that Hitler wasn't a Christian.

 

[Kylie]

Everyone will go to Heaven?

Nope.

Want a hint?

 

[Ygrene Imref]

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2

Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 5

Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 1

The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 10

To do justice to God and our own conscience, we have turned once more to the German Volk.

- Adolf Hitler in speech about the need for a moral regeneration of German, February 10, 1933

May divine providence bless us with enough courage and enough determination to perceive within ourselves this holy German space.

- Adolf Hitler, Speech, March 24, 1933

We don't ask the Almighty, 'Lord, make us free!" We want to be active, to work, to work together, so that when the hour comes that we appear before the Lord we can say to him: 'Lord, you see that we have changed.' The German people is no longer a people of dishonor and shame, of self-destructiveness and cowardice. No, Lord, the German people is once more strong in spirit, strong in determination, strong in the willingness to bear every sacrifice. Lord, now bless our battle and our freedom, and therefore our German people and fatherland.

- Adolf Hitler, Prayer, May 1, 1933

I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work.

- Adolf Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936

The Catholic Church should not deceive herself: if National Socialism does not succeed in defeating Bolshevism, then Church and Christianity in Europe too are finished. Bolshevism is the mortal enemy of the Church as much as of Fascism. ...Man cannot exist without belief in God. The soldier who for three and four days lies under intense bombardment needs a religious prop.

- Adolf Hitler in conversation with Cardinal Michael von Faulhaber of Bavaria, November 4, 1936

Tell me again that Hitler wasn't a Christian.

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.​

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?​

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

Matthew 7:21-25​

 

[Ygrene Imref]

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2

Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 5

Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 1

The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 10

To do justice to God and our own conscience, we have turned once more to the German Volk.

- Adolf Hitler in speech about the need for a moral regeneration of German, February 10, 1933

May divine providence bless us with enough courage and enough determination to perceive within ourselves this holy German space.

- Adolf Hitler, Speech, March 24, 1933

We don't ask the Almighty, 'Lord, make us free!" We want to be active, to work, to work together, so that when the hour comes that we appear before the Lord we can say to him: 'Lord, you see that we have changed.' The German people is no longer a people of dishonor and shame, of self-destructiveness and cowardice. No, Lord, the German people is once more strong in spirit, strong in determination, strong in the willingness to bear every sacrifice. Lord, now bless our battle and our freedom, and therefore our German people and fatherland.

- Adolf Hitler, Prayer, May 1, 1933

I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work.

- Adolf Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936

The Catholic Church should not deceive herself: if National Socialism does not succeed in defeating Bolshevism, then Church and Christianity in Europe too are finished. Bolshevism is the mortal enemy of the Church as much as of Fascism. ...Man cannot exist without belief in God. The soldier who for three and four days lies under intense bombardment needs a religious prop.

- Adolf Hitler in conversation with Cardinal Michael von Faulhaber of Bavaria, November 4, 1936

Tell me again that Hitler wasn't a Christian.

In all of these, never does He mention Christ, or His real name (if he was so enlightened spiritually.) Moreover, we do not know which "almighty creator" he is worshipping. We know the name of the Most High: it is in the canon spoken to Moses. We know the name(s) of Christ.

Hitler is spiritually nebulous at best in these excerpts. Don't people like to troll others by claiming to worship the flying spaghetti monster? To them (in jest, or reality,) that is the almighty.

Christianity doesn't mean someone believes in the Most High, or Christ only.

 

[Kylie]

In all of these, never does He mention Christ, or His real name (if he was so enlightened spiritually.) Moreover, we do not know which "almighty creator" he is worshipping. We know the name of the Most High: it is in the canon spoken to Moses. We know the name(s) of Christ.

Hitler is spiritually nebulous at best in these excerpts. Don't people like to troll others by claiming to worship the flying spaghetti monster? To them (in jest, or reality,) that is the almighty.

Christianity doesn't mean someone believes in the Most High, or Christ only.

Whatever it takes for you to justify what you want to believe.

 

[Kylie]

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.​

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?​

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

Matthew 7:21-25​

What's your point? You think quoting the Bible is going to prove something to me? You do realise I consider the Bible to be mythology, don't you?

 

[Ygrene Imref]

Whatever it takes for you to justify what you want to believe.

It is your own quotations. These sentiments are a projection of your own methodology.

You are the one who gave me a list of quotes, then challenged me to say Hitler wasn't a Christian. Yet, not one of those excerpts mention Christ singularly, in context or by extension. The "almighty" is never specified like He is in the biblical canon.

Your own evidence fails to support your assertion aforementioned.

 

[Kylie]

In all of these, never does He mention Christ, or His real name (if he was so enlightened spiritually.) Moreover, we do not know which "almighty creator" he is worshipping. We know the name of the Most High: it is in the canon spoken to Moses. We know the name(s) of Christ.

Hitler is spiritually nebulous at best in these excerpts. Don't people like to troll others by claiming to worship the flying spaghetti monster? To them (in jest, or reality,) that is the almighty.

Christianity doesn't mean someone believes in the Most High, or Christ only.

I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.

- Adolf Hitler, to General Gerhard Engel, 1941

Yeah, he's so vague here. Catholic could mean anything...

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.” –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

Who is he speaking of here if not Jesus?