Question about Genesis, Adam and Eve.

[ewq1938]

Whether she added it on her own, or Adam told it to her this way, one of them added to God's Word.

Or no one added to anything and this is what God told to Eve, a conversation not recorded but only repeated by Eve at a later time. Never does God charge with adding to his commands regarding the tree and it's fruit.

 

[Doug Melven]

Or no one added to anything and this is what God told to Eve, a conversation not recorded but only repeated by Eve at a later time. Never does God charge with adding to his commands regarding the tree and it's fruit.

God told Adam what the law was.
I don't believe God would have told Eve something different from what He told Adam.
Man is the head of woman.
Christ is the head of man.
God is the head of Christ.

 

[ewq1938]

I don't believe God would have told Eve something different from what He told Adam.

That's fine but personal belief is not evidence.

 

[Doug Melven]

That's fine but personal belief is not evidence.

How did your statement of an unrecorded conversation have more weight than what I said?
Y

 

[ewq1938]

How did your statement of an unrecorded conversation have more weight than what I said?
Y

Because I have not made the claim that, "one of them added to God's Word". There is no evidence that anyone added anything to God's word. We have what God told Adam, then we have what Eve says God told both given to a writer by inspiration of the Holy Spirit. There is zero evidence to suggest what Eve said is not what she was told.

 

[mmksparbud]

Like it matters??! You can't eat it without touching it!

 

[Doug Melven]

Like it matters??! You can't eat it without touching it!

Satan made Eve doubt God's word, saying she wouldn't die if she ate.
Now she was doubting what God said and then she took the next step, she handled it.
And then when she touched it, and she didn't die, she then started to examine it.
She saw it was pleasing to the eye - lust of the eyes
She saw that it was good for food - lust of the flesh
she saw that it could make one wise - exalting herself would be the pride of life.

Now look at James 1
1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Eve was drawn away of her own lust when she took that first step.

 

[tz620q]

In Christian theology sin has three requirements:
1. it must be an evil --- I think we can agree that disobeying God is an evil
2. it must be known to be an evil --- without having eaten of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, Adam and Eve were incapable of sin --- of making a mistake? certainly!
3. it is done anyhow in the full knowledge that it is an evil

If there was an original sin it must have been something after this event. I regard this story as a "coming of age story" in which humanity graduates from a totally naïve and childish status into mature self reflective adulthood able to make free moral and ethical decisions.

I've always been taught that 3. is that you do it of your own free will. In other words, someone isn't holding a shotgun to your head making you sin.

 

[tz620q]

When God says "do" or "don't do" there is law.

There were 2 laws at that time: Be fruitful and multiply and do not eat from the tree of the knowlege of good and evil.

Then, since there is no record in the Bible of Adam and Eve having children before the fall, they must have eaten of the tree of knowledge of good and evil on a Tuesday (two sins for the price of one).

 

[JackRT]

I've always been taught that 3. is that you do it of your own free will. In other words, someone isn't holding a shotgun to your head making you sin.

Yes, that should have been a part of my post. Thank you.

 

[omega2xx]

Then, since there is no record in the Bible of Adam and Eve having children before the fall, they must have eaten of the tree of knowledge of good and evil on a Tuesday (two sins for the price of one).

The did fulfill God's first law, so they did not sin about it.

 

[dreadnought]

Genesis 3:22 And Jehovah God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever-

Hello,
So my question might sound a bit dumb but here it is : Since Adam and Eve didn't know about good and evil before eating from the tree of knowledge, does that mean they used to sin without realizing it ?


Thank you for the response.

My own personal interpretation is that "knowing about good and evil" refers to our passing judgment on people. We are advised to resist doing that, though sometimes, such as in a court of law, I don't see how it can be avoided.