Question about curse words?

[Sammy-San]

I'm not savvy to the many acronyms used today via text and email communications. What is OCD? From the many Scriptures that I've quoted to this posting, every true born again Christian knows the difference between right and wrong. When, in times past, that I found myself trying to justify some errant thought or behavior, I was quickly put back on track by The Grace of God. I think a general way to explain this wouod be to go back to John 1:9 and Romans 1. After praying about those Words of God, I believe that clarity on many issues can be achieved. God is not the author of confusion. We should all be very clear about what is right and what is wrong. I'm not the judge and I do thank God often that I'm not. Learning to live in the moment is a long term goal that some day I hope to be able to truly do without exception.

To make a long story short I fixate on things that aren't relevant to me as a person.

 

[Sammy-San]

I'm not savvy to the many acronyms used today via text and email communications. What is OCD? From the many Scriptures that I've quoted to this posting, every true born again Christian knows the difference between right and wrong. When, in times past, that I found myself trying to justify some errant thought or behavior, I was quickly put back on track by The Grace of God. I think a general way to explain this wouod be to go back to John 1:9 and Romans 1. After praying about those Words of God, I believe that clarity on many issues can be achieved. God is not the author of confusion. We should all be very clear about what is right and what is wrong. I'm not the judge and I do thank God often that I'm not. Learning to live in the moment is a long term goal that some day I hope to be able to truly do without exception.

Is Cursing a Sin? What the Bible Says About Profanity

2. God says cursing and filthy language is wrong because it lowers the beautiful relationship between a husband and wife to the level of animals. Animals do not properly love; they physically reproduce. It is impossible for humans outside the marriage bond to love one another in physical sex. God breathed into man the breath of life and man became a living soul (Genesis 2:7). Perfect love is reflected when a man loves another human being – his wife – as Christ Himself loved the church and gave Himself for it (Ephesians 5:25). For human beings, sexual relationships are beautiful and holy – in marriage. Hebrews 13:4, “Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.” To use vile words for the sexual relationship is a sin against God.

3. God says cursing is wrong because it destroys the sacredness of the human body. I Corinthians 6:19,20 says, “What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.” The body is so sacred that to look upon the nakedness of another is strictly forbidden (Leviticus 18). The Bible says, “But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks” (Ephesians 5:3,4). To use vile, filthy words to describe natural biological functions of the body also violates Scripture.

Why are certain words considered vile and filthy?

 

[WannaWitness]

If words such as "heck", "gosh", "gee", "darn", and "golly" are swear words, then cute little classic TV shows such as Leave It To Beaver and I Love Lucy would be filled with obscenities. Now doesn't that sound quite absurd? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure it's safe to say that it does.

Okay, what about words such as "crap", "butt", "fart", or "poop"? Well, those aren't bad either. I've actually heard a lot worse. But there are Christians (some may even be posting in this thread) who would equate them to swear words, or at least be borderline at best. Personally, I don't see an issue when it comes to these milder words, but I'm aware everyone has different convictions here. The line is drawn in so many places when it comes to this issue (and others like it) that it can prove to be confusing.

Read Romans 14; it doesn't mention this specifically, but it can certainly be applied, as verse 1 of this chapter refers to "doubtful things", and this is one of those things.

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

If words such as "heck", "gosh", "gee", "darn", and "golly" are swear words, then cute little classic TV shows such as Leave It To Beaver and I Love Lucy would be filled with obscenities. Now doesn't that sound quite absurd? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure it's safe to say that it does.

Okay, what about words such as "crap", "butt", "fart", or "poop"? Well, those aren't bad either. I've actually heard a lot worse. But there are Christians (some may even be posting in this thread) who would equate them to swear words, or at least be borderline at best. Personally, I don't see an issue when it comes to these milder words, but I'm aware everyone has different convictions here. The line is drawn in so many places when it comes to this issue (and others like it) that it can prove to be confusing.

Read Romans 14; it doesn't mention this specifically, but it can certainly be applied, as verse 1 of this chapter refers to "doubtful things", and this is one of those things.

We know a couple who considers all of those words you used swearing and offensive. They will see a kids G rated movie and make a list a mile long on whats wrong with it. I mean I get it when it comes to kids. But no adult saying "Gosh", seems a little weird to me. Its why I say there is a fine line between being smart/protective and being a "bubbled". I'm not referring to just kids mind you.

I think its great if someone wants to, even as an adult, not say things like heck. But when people tell me I shouldn't say it because its vile to God I ask them how do they live such amazing lives that they living like Jesus and never do anything wrong. More to the point one person can tell another "I don't swear and the fact you do is terrible!", but that person whos saying that may have a porn addiction, or vanity issues, material issues...ect. Not that it means we shouldn't live like Jesus since we mess up, but we have to be careful about being prideful when it comes to what we tell others.

 

[JackRT]

In English most of out four letter "potty mouth" words are actually perfectly normal old Anglo Saxon (Old German) words that were suppressed when the Norman's took England in 1066 and tried to impose French.

 

[WannaWitness]

We know a couple who considers all of those words you used swearing and offensive. They will see a kids G rated movie and make a list a mile long on whats wrong with it. I mean I get it when it comes to kids. But no adult saying "Gosh", seems a little weird to me. Its why I say there is a fine line between being smart/protective and being a "bubbled". I'm not referring to just kids mind you.

I think its great if someone wants to, even as an adult, not say things like heck. But when people tell me I shouldn't say it because its vile to God I ask them how do they live such amazing lives that they living like Jesus and never do anything wrong. More to the point one person can tell another "I don't swear and the fact you do is terrible!", but that person whos saying that may have a porn addiction, or vanity issues, material issues...ect. Not that it means we shouldn't live like Jesus since we mess up, but we have to be careful about being prideful when it comes to what we tell others.

I know what you mean. There are people that way. I also hear you on the pride issue; I've known plenty of people who have certain convictions - not that it's wrong to actually have them - and like to rub it in people's faces about how "holy" they think themselves to be. Reminds me of the parable about the Pharisee and the tax collector in Luke 18:9-14. Here, the Pharisee brags to God in so-called "prayer" how he did everything right unlike "everyone else", even judging the tax collector who meanwhile was pleading to God for mercy on his sins. I actually knew someone like that, and I've talked about him elsewhere on the forums. I went to church with this guy a long time ago, and I remember one day how he got up in church and bragged about how he and his family "dressed holy" (they dressed very plain and dowdy, which goes beyond mere modesty). On another day, he saw a lady walking down the street wearing a tasteful pair of shorts, and remarked that she needed to "put some clothes on". He was also strict when it came to music; he believed CCM was "not anointed", and he was very outspoken about it. This was very off-putting, and he had a way of making me (and possibly others) feel intimidated around him. So it's not just the issue of swearing (or what some think might be swearing). We all can think we're doing the right thing, but we should take care not to believe were always right while judging others.

I apologize for getting slightly off-topic; it's just that your post brought these things to mind that I believe ties in with this issue.

God bless you, NII.

 

[JackRT]

Just dismiss it as a power trip.

 

[Sammy-San]

Thank you for helping to strengthen my point. There are many people who find that word to be offensive. I do not use that type of language nor do those that I typically associate with. However, based on my extensive background, I've certainly heard much worse. Filthy conversation is not Christian. You might lookup all of the times in the New Testament the word "conversation" is used, a sample of which follows;

Eph.2

1. [3] Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Eph.4

1. [22] That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

Phil.1

1. [27] Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;

you dont agree with this quote?

Is Cursing a Sin? What the Bible Says About Profanity

Genesis 2:7). Perfect love is reflected when a man loves another human being – his wife – as Christ Himself loved the church and gave Himself for it (Ephesians 5:25). For human beings, sexual relationships are beautiful and holy – in marriage. Hebrews 13:4, “Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.” To use vile words for the sexual relationship is a sin against God.

 

[lsume]

i used to have a friend that would say 'john-doe it!' when he got mad instead of one of the more common 'curse' words that would normally be used in place of 'john-doe'; it bugged me worse than hearing the real thing - his heart was just as much in the wrong place, and there was an element of hypocrisy there as well - he was pretending to be 'righteous' by not using what most people would call a 'curse word', yet his anger was just as ungodly, as revealed by his need to use additional words to express his uncontrolled anger - God never lets His anger get out of control, so when we let anger get the best of us, we're acting 'un-Godly'...

Here's Jesus' definition of 'swearing':

Mat 5:33-37 KJV
(33) Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
(34) But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
(35) Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
(36) Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
(37) But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

same verse in the Amplified:

Mat 5:33-37 AMP
(33) "Again, you have heard that it was said to the men of old, 'YOU SHALL NOT MAKE FALSE VOWS, BUT YOU SHALL FULFILL YOUR VOWS TO THE LORD [as a religious duty].'
(34) But I say to you, do not make an oath at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God;
(35) or by the earth, for it is the footstool of His feet; or by Jerusalem, for it is THE CITY OF THE GREAT KING. [Psa. 48:2; Isa. 66:1]
(36) Nor shall you make an oath by your head, for you are not able to make a single hair white or black.
(37) But let your statement be, 'Yes, yes' or 'No, no' [a firm yes or no]; anything more than that comes from the evil one. [Lev. 19:12; Num. 30:2; Deu. 23:21]

and in the Bible in Basic English:

Mat 5:33-37 BBE
(33) Again, you have knowledge that it was said in old times, Do not take false oaths, but give effect to your oaths to the Lord:
(34) But I say to you, Take no oaths at all: not by the heaven, because it is the seat of God;
(35) Or by the earth, because it is the resting-place for his foot; or by Jerusalem, because it is the town of the great King.
(36) You may not take an oath by your head, because you are not able to make one hair white or black.
(37) But let your words be simply, Yes or No: and whatever is more than these is of the Evil One.

Here's God's definition of 'curse' when men do it:

Gen 12:3 KJV
(3) And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

same verse in the Amplified:

Gen 12:3 AMP
(3) And I will bless (do good for, benefit) those who bless you, And I will curse [that is, subject to My wrath and judgment] the one who curses (despises, dishonors, has contempt for) you. And in you all the families (nations) of the earth will be blessed." [Gal. 3:8]

and in the Bible in Basic English

Gen 12:3 BBE
(3) To them who are good to you will I give blessing, and on him who does you wrong will I put my curse: and you will become a name of blessing to all the families of the earth.

so it seems to me that when people use words that are traditionally offensive to many people today (but not to everyone as revealed at most construction sites ) to express anger or frustration, it isn't what God defines as 'swearing' and 'cursing'.

i heard about a gang member that got saved and gave her witness at a Christian meeting right afterward; every other word that came out of her mouth was a curse word; yet her witness moved the people there to worship God - i'll bet it didn't bother Him at all

Luke.6

1. 
   [28] Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

Matt.5

1. 
   [44] But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

2Pet.2

1. 
   
   [7] And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

I strongly believe that using The Name of The Lord in vain is wrong and I don't like to hear it. Fortunately, on television I just have to switch channels. Curse words don't bother me in the least but that doesn't mean that I use them since others find them to be offensive.

 

[lsume]

you dont agree with this quote?

Is Cursing a Sin? What the Bible Says About Profanity

I agree that using The Name of The Lord in vain is a sin.