How can I know the difference between a test and a curse?

[Muhan]

What is very disturbing about this case is that I kept me safe. All this beating around the bush with the jobs kept me safe, and healthy, and greatly increased my knowledge and wisdom. The latter is because from a distance you observe many things that you would not have observed if you were in the middle of them.
Through this, God gave me seeing and knowing things by observation and not by doing.

The main concern is the job. For a very long time I could not find work. But God never let me die. Right in the last moment He showed up with solutions. But, eventually this "game" will be over.

Death does not frighten me, neither the next world, regardless of what it is. But I don't know what God is planning. This may be the final test where He kills me. Or it may be just another test. If He's going to kill me, why the wait? It's a long wait even jobless. I don't get the situation.
If He wanted something from my side He would've let me know. He doesn't let me know, would imply He doesn't want anything. I can assume what, the intent is death or torture?
And you the ironic part, you know what it is? I'm actually better off than most. Blessed in many ways that even myself cannot comprehend (others see the blessings, but not me).

I just wish it was faster. Whatever He's planning, just to get it over with. I Spent my entire life in study, for what? If I'm right, all will be useless.

I am sure that approach is certainly going to work for you with the living God.
Really, I would be very careful what I said and thought about the living God.
Your fate might depend upon it

 

[prudent_commenter]

I am sure that approach is certainly going to work for you with the living God.
Really, I would be very careful what I said and thought about the living God.
Your fate might depend upon it

It's the investment that is curious. He wouldn't have made me such if He planned to let me die. Great efforts are taken to stay away from the corruption of the world, to preserve the body and mind, and to gather knowledge, and form wisdom from it. All this.. is His doing.
And the life is holy. But why, that's the question.

 

[Muhan]

It's the investment that is curious. He wouldn't have made me such if He planned to let me die. Great efforts are taken to stay away from the corruption of the world, to preserve the body and mind, and to gather knowledge, and form wisdom from it. All this.. is His doing.
And the life is holy. But why, that's the question.

If you had the light of life, you would know these things.

 

[prudent_commenter]

If you had the light of life, you would know these things.

I tell the same to those that think they walk in the spirit. I give them my example, and they don't take it very well.

 

[Muhan]

I tell the same to those that think they walk in the spirit. I give them my example, and they don't take it very well.

What I said to you came from the Holy Ghost. He is the Spirit.
You fancy yourself a wise soul. I think that is wonderful.
You walk in it daily.

 

[prudent_commenter]

The one thing that never occurred to me is the environment. (What happens to highly religious people in a wicked and degraded environment?). I've been fearing this corruption for some time. Because what I am, I did it myself (with God), and no one else. When there is no one to look up to, and no one to guide you, then.. whatever the environment provides, that's what you'll become.

If I take the example of a bad soil; whatever I plant in that soil will not grow, and will eventually die. Which what i mentioned in the post. If I take that example, I'm trying to grow in a place where nothing grows.

Make no mistake, there is no faith here. Whatever faith is here, is fear. They fear God, but not actually love Him. If they had everything they wanted in this life, they would forget about Him in a heartbeat. ... Some days, i am surprised I managed to hold out this well over here, where nothing is a good example. Bad ones, sure.. but good? Never.

 

[Unqualified]

The one thing that never occurred to me is the environment. (What happens to highly religious people in a wicked and degraded environment?). I've been fearing this corruption for some time. Because what I am, I did it myself (with God), and no one else. When there is no one to look up to, and no one to guide you, then.. whatever the environment provides, that's what you'll become.

If I take the example of a bad soil; whatever I plant in that soil will not grow, and will eventually die. Which what i mentioned in the post. If I take that example, I'm trying to grow in a place where nothing grows.

Make no mistake, there is no faith here. Whatever faith is here, is fear. They fear God, but not actually love Him. If they had everything they wanted in this life, they would forget about Him in a heartbeat. ... Some days, i am surprised I managed to hold out this well over here, where nothing is a good example. Bad ones, sure.. but good? Never.

you and Jesus make an army. Your environment can be prayer the Bible, church, in extreme cases. Don’t conform yourself to this world. It may have some effect, but don’t be ruled by the flesh. Go against the current like a trout. May be rough going, but then fuel up at prayer and reading. We are not victims, but Christians.

 

[prudent_commenter]

you and Jesus make an army. Your environment can be prayer the Bible, church, in extreme cases.

We don't live in a hermetically sealed box. We interact with the environment. Your job, your free time, you interact with people, whether you want to or not.

Don’t conform yourself to this world. It may have some effect, but don’t be ruled by the flesh. Go against the current like a trout. May be rough going, but then fuel up at prayer and reading. We are not victims, but Christians.

I am going against the current. And have done that since I remember. But its much harder for me that anyone else (for some reason). And what this environment teaches is that its much better on the other side.

I just don't see the logic behind it: you take a person, and faithful one at that, and place it in a bad environment. For what? I've been here for 30 years and more, and they couldn't corrupt me. So, at least, I managed that. But going forward, without even a glimpse of light...
If it's a test, 40 years worth of succeeding must count for something, although i see nothing.

 

[Unqualified]

We don't live in a hermetically sealed box. We interact with the environment. Your job, your free time, you interact with people, whether you want to or not.

I am going against the current. And have done that since I remember. But its much harder for me that anyone else (for some reason). And what this environment teaches is that its much better on the other side.

I just don't see the logic behind it: you take a person, and faithful one at that, and place it in a bad environment. For what? I've been here for 30 years and more, and they couldn't corrupt me. So, at least, I managed that. But going forward, without even a glimpse of light...
If it's a test, 40 years worth of succeeding must count for something, although i see nothing.

pits there, but you are not seeing it? All im suggesting is to not be changed by it. Jesus is the light, you are the light.

 

[prudent_commenter]

pits there, but you are not seeing it? All im suggesting is to not be changed by it. Jesus is the light, you are the light.

The more you struggle, the worse it becomes. And it's much bigger for me because I don't give in.

What I observed all this time, is that people fall and get back up. It's a continuous struggle in this life. But I never saw people that are kept from sinning. What about those that are not part of this loop?

 

[Unqualified]

You’re right it is a struggle. I don’t give in either if that helps. People do fall and get back up you’re right again..
other people are not tempted by God either. We all have to use our will with the help of the Holy Spirit to not sin. Gods love is unmistakable and it’s hard to kick against the goads. Gods love holds us in such a way that we don’t want to sin against Him. Just his people really.

the world if that’s what you mean is at the mercy of its own flesh and the world and the devil. It’s also hard to make good choices with that much working against you. You fall and it’s hard to get up. So they stay up by other means. I don’t know how people not in this loop do it without the lord to tell you the truth.

the righteous man, it says in the Bible falls seven times and gets back up and goes on with the help of repentance. It’s really more than that but we just keep getting up in the power and grace of God.

 

[prudent_commenter]

Some with the Holy Spirit are never tempted. Their flesh is fully controlled by their minds. There is no enforcement, it's just a lack of desire for whatever it is being offered to you. I never had any problems with anything of the world. The only way to tempt such people is from the inside (they need to tempt themselves). Normal people are corrupted from the outside (flesh). The very few, can only be teared down by themselves.

I do believe that if the Holy Spirit chooses a home to live in, that should be clean. And it should also be something fortified. As with anything inn the world, whatever is broken, can be repaired, but will never be as strong as before the breakage. It's like trying to glue a broken cup. Compare with a never broken cup.

I'll restate: if you are not part of the loop (fall-get-up-fall-get-up..) then, what are you?

 

[Unqualified]

Just looking for some good clean fun. And you get a hug. If you are not part of the loop you are a new man,
regenerated. But that is is in a completed state only when we reach heaven. Some don’t have desire for sinful things, but we all at least fall short of perfection. Like Job.

 

[prudent_commenter]

There has to be a reason for all of this. Nothing is random. I just don't see it.

These people can only be corrupted by their own will. Exterior interference is impossible. If I don't see a point, there's no reason to continue. Life is that loop. If so, I can do that as well. No point in furthering this beyond the common level (which is very low, i trust you can agree).

 

[Unqualified]

We may not see the purpose but God has a purpose. We are the object of His love. The Bible is His statement to man. Learning about God and giving it to others is our purpose in these last days. The world is perishing without God. Don’t perish.. are you that leveled out? No ups and downs, no sin and no repentance?

God made us in His goodness so He would have worshippers forever. It’s a test of endurance, of faithfulness.
remember love the lord your God with all your heart soul, mind and strength. And your neighbor as yourself. And the great commission, take the gospel into all the world, make disciples of every nation. You can’t be the only one with faith there.

 

[prudent_commenter]

I secure the mind at all times, blocking all forms of corruption.

I don't know. 4 pages on this topic and I still have no idea what this is. It could be a test of endurance but even that doesn't make much sense. I endured, and endure much more than others. And during this endurance, I did not fail.

Faith is putting mildly. People here fast based on doctrine, and during the yearly fasting periods. They are not pure, nor are their minds clean, and their bodies are whacked. Churches are filled with heathens. And I'm starting to believe that my inside and outside is cleaner than a priest. And that's not good, at all. if that's true, it means the end of times are here. Of everything else, I keep very long beard and hair for God, but these priests, when you see them so groomed, it screams "I have nothing inside", and unfortunately, most of time is true.

 

[peter2]

I secure the mind at all times, blocking all forms of corruption.

I don't know. 4 pages on this topic and I still have no idea what this is. It could be a test of endurance but even that doesn't make much sense. I endured, and endure much more than others. And during this endurance, I did not fail.

Faith is putting mildly. People here fast based on doctrine, and during the yearly fasting periods. They are not pure, nor are their minds clean, and their bodies are whacked. Churches are filled with heathens. And I'm starting to believe that my inside and outside is cleaner than a priest. And that's not good, at all. if that's true, it means the end of times are here. Of everything else, I keep very long beard and hair for God, but these priests, when you see them so groomed, it screams "I have nothing inside", and unfortunately, most of time is true.

i sometimes laugh at Peter's reactions.
I see him like the "buffoon" of Jesus (Please Saint Peter forgive me !), for he frequently believes something false, and is corrected afterwards
I love Saint Peter for however frequently corrected, he keeps loving Jesus, and righteousness
It seems to me he stops suffering from his "buffooneries" after Paul 'd corrected him (see Gal 2), and at his contradictive reply to the request of a group of Pharisees disciples to have heathens disciples circumcised. (see Act 15).
Peter might likely have particularly suffered from the latter correction by Paul, since he was he that Jesus had called "Peter" to be the rock on which His church would be built, and it was not Jesus that was correcting him but Paul, whom he could have thought as one of his sheep, and not as someone that would correct him
I don't know if my writting would have support you. You see : Peter seems to me to have been waiting long for stopping being like a "buffon" if i however didn't mistook

 

[Unqualified]

I secure the mind at all times, blocking all forms of corruption.

I don't know. 4 pages on this topic and I still have no idea what this is. It could be a test of endurance but even that doesn't make much sense. I endured, and endure much more than others. And during this endurance, I did not fail.

Faith is putting mildly. People here fast based on doctrine, and during the yearly fasting periods. They are not pure, nor are their minds clean, and their bodies are whacked. Churches are filled with heathens. And I'm starting to believe that my inside and outside is cleaner than a priest. And that's not good, at all. if that's true, it means the end of times are here. Of everything else, I keep very long beard and hair for God, but these priests, when you see them so groomed, it screams "I have nothing inside", and unfortunately, most of time is true.

things are not as they should be. the earth is cursed, it is a test. that’s how it is. thanks for keeping yourself unspoiled from the world. but be careful of those traps. those who would live rightly will have persecution. do not be conformed to this world’. You have only been tested as what is common to man’. lot was vexed by the evil in sodom. But Jesus loves you and though you are different from them He will make a way and provide for you. I like different people. I will pray for you, Father please provide for this Christian man. Help him to get a long in life there in Romania and keep him following you and obeying you. Please strengthen his hold on reality and give him his answers. Thank you lord, bless him in Jesus Name. Amen

 

[prudent_commenter]

things are not as they should be. the earth is cursed, it is a test. that’s how it is. thanks for keeping yourself unspoiled from the world. but be careful of those traps. those who would live rightly will have persecution.

Why are those persecuted?

Would you say the righteous are persecuted more than fallen ones?

I get the impression that, the more detached from the world you are, the more you are punished for it.

I had a two dreams about this subject a while back, the only ones of their kind I ever dreamt. I dreamt of God telling me to keep my word to Him. And a few months apart, I also dreamt of the devil asking me what has God ever done for me.

 

[Unqualified]

Why are those persecuted?

Would you say the righteous are persecuted more than fallen ones?

I get the impression that, the more detached from the world you are, the more you are punished for it.

I had a two dreams about this subject a while back, the only ones of their kind I ever dreamt. I dreamt of God telling me to keep my word to Him. And a few months apart, I also dreamt of the devil asking me what has God ever done for me.

because Jesus was.

yes the righteous more

yes the world punishes us because we are a witness that their deeds are evil, like Jesus did to the people, the Pharisees, and those who were convicted of His truth were saved. We are to take that truth at times to the people and see if they want forgiveness, salvation, blessing from Him.