Question About Atonement Theories

[CalledOutOne]

If you deny the penal-substitution theory of the atonement, then do you believe a false Gospel?
What about Anslem's Theory which was very similar?

As of right now, I think that someone who denies both the penal-substitution theory and Anslem's theory is probably not saved.

 

[Calvinist Dark Lord]

If you deny the penal-substitution theory of the atonement, then do you believe a false Gospel?
What about Anslem's Theory which was very similar?

As of right now, I think that someone who denies both the penal-substitution theory and Anslem's theory is probably not saved.

Well, i'd prefer to leave the call of who is or isn't saved in God's hands. The accuracy of my doctrine didn't save me. God Saved me. i suspect that we'll all be surprised to see a few heretics in Heaven.

That said, all the theories of the Atonement have some measure of truth to them, even the so-called "Moral Example/Governmental Theory".

It is their primary emphasis that is the question.

 

[bricklayer]

Being born again is not too unlike being born the first time. As infants, our understandings of our perceptions were ... well, infantile. That doesn't mean that we weren't alive.

Some grow up; others just grow older. Live and let live.

 

[twin1954]

I am glad it isn't up to me who is saved and who isn't. If it were I wouldn't be saved because I couldn't meet the standard I set.

At the same time we must be aware that it is a compromise to allow that folks are not lost in religion but only misguided. I challenge anyone to show me one religious man in the Scriptures who was saved apart from truth. You can't believe what you don't know. Salvation come through faith in One whom to know is life eternal. If you know Him you have some knowledge of what He did and why. It isn't necessary to have all the details worked out but when you do hear the truth you do not deny it. You can't deny the Person and work of Christ and be saved.

I have little use for the philosophical musings of "theologians".

 

[bricklayer]

I am glad it isn't up to me who is saved and who isn't. If it were I wouldn't be saved because I couldn't meet the standard I set.

At the same time we must be aware that it is a compromise to allow that folks are not lost in religion but only misguided. I challenge anyone to show me one religious man in the Scriptures who was saved apart from truth. You can't believe what you don't know. Salvation come through faith in One whom to know is life eternal. If you know Him you have some knowledge of what He did and why. It isn't necessary to have all the details worked out but when you do hear the truth you do not deny it. You can't deny the Person and work of Christ and be saved.

I have little use for the philosophical musings of "theologians".

Wow, great pont. That's exactly where to draw the line.

 

[JM]

If you deny the penal-substitution theory of the atonement, then do you believe a false Gospel?
What about Anslem's Theory which was very similar?

As of right now, I think that someone who denies both the penal-substitution theory and Anslem's theory is probably not saved.

Found this quote helpful:

"This Reformed view says simply that Christ died for man, in man's place, taking his sins and bearing them for him. The bearing of man's sins takes the punishment for them and sets the believer free from the penal demands of the law: The righteousness of the law and the holiness of God are satisfied by this substitution."

I would say that is a good summation of the biblical Gospel. If someone believes something else...well, may God have mercy on them.

 

[JM]

I have little use for the philosophical musings of "theologians".

"As I cannot get a DD for the want of cash, neither can I get an MA for the want of learning; therefore I am compelled to fly for refuge to SS, by which I mean Sinner Saved; or, that I am made wise to salvation; or, as Luke expresses it, ‘I have had the knowledge of salvation by the forgiveness of my sins." - William Huntington

 

[Orange_County_Chopper]

I am glad it isn't up to me who is saved and who isn't. If it were I wouldn't be saved because I couldn't meet the standard I set.

At the same time we must be aware that it is a compromise to allow that folks are not lost in religion but only misguided. I challenge anyone to show me one religious man in the Scriptures who was saved apart from truth. You can't believe what you don't know. Salvation come through faith in One whom to know is life eternal. If you know Him you have some knowledge of what He did and why. It isn't necessary to have all the details worked out but when you do hear the truth you do not deny it. You can't deny the Person and work of Christ and be saved.

I have little use for the philosophical musings of "theologians".

Gee, do you mean the Bible and the Gospel isn't all about holding hands together singing "coombaya" let's just all agree in the name of love?