Quantum Immortality Test

[JohnEmmett]

If I remember correctly, I posted links

you don't remember correctly


memory is flawed remember

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

I'm sure you misremember all that


everything you said must be wrong


because that is your logic

And there we have it - if you don't have a reasonable argument, attack a straw-man...

 

[JohnEmmett]

And there we have it

I'm using your logic

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

you don't remember correctly

memory is flawed remember

It was a joke - as I said, the history of the thread tells the story.

Memory is unreliable in particular ways, it isn't useless. As I said before, if you spent a little time learning how it works, you might appreciate the difference.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

I'm using your logic

No, you're dishonestly misrepresenting it.

 

[JohnEmmett]

No, you're dishonestly misrepresenting it.

just to make a point

 

[Hans Blaster]

I'm sure you misremember


everything you said must be wrong


because that is your logic

That is *not* my logic, or my claim.

I didn't claim that *all* memories are false. Only that some memories are false.

 

[JohnEmmett]

I didn't claim that *all* memories are false. Only that some memories are false.

apparently the memories of the Mandela effect are always false


otherwise we remember correctly


about things that no longer exist

 

[Hans Blaster]

apparently the memories of the Mandela effect are always false


otherwise we remember correctly


about things that no longer exist

Given that a proper definition would involve a large number of people remembering something incorrectly, then yes, mandela effect memories are always false.

 

[JohnEmmett]

yes, mandela effect memories are always false.

this is just as misguided as racism

 

[Hans Blaster]

this is just as misguided as racism

Whoa, dude! Back off a bit there.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Whoa, dude! Back off a bit there.

our group's memories are not "always false"

 

[Hans Blaster]

this is just as misguided as racism

First. Don't distort my statements by quoting only a sentence fragment.

Second. The evidence that exists to date suggests and is fully consistent with all "Mandela effect" memory conflicts being common memory and cognition errors and the retransmission of those common errors.

 

[Hans Blaster]

our group's memories are not "always false"

That's not what anyone said. Your "Group" seems to be unwilling to accept that their common memory errors are errors and insist that reality changed instead. That's just "nuts". Get a grip.

 

[JohnEmmett]

The evidence that exists to date suggests and is fully consistent with

even the Wizard of Oz example is enough

recently in this discussion

 

[JohnEmmett]

our group's memories are not "always false"

That's not what anyone said. Your "Group" seems to be unwilling to accept that their common memory errors are errors and insist that reality changed instead. That's just "nuts". Get a grip.

well you said it now

 

[Hans Blaster]

even the Wizard of Oz example is enough

recently in this discussion

And there you go again, selectively editing my thoughts.

I'm done with this thread, John.

I'm done with you, John.

You are *not* a good conversationalist.
You are *not* a honest debater.
Your writing is so clipped as to often be incomprehensible.
You quote out of context and selectively with great frequency.
You don't acknowledge other peoples statements in your replies.
You are not willing to consider evidence.
You are not willing to accept friendly advice about improving these things.

You frequently attack based on non-relevant "religious" positions.
You do not take people at their word about their *own* experiences.
You *frequently* insist that you know anonymized strangers better than they know themselves.
You are not clever (though you seem to think you are).
You seem to have no ability to comprehend what other people feel or experience.

You are not worth talking to.

 

[JohnEmmett]

You are not willing to consider evidence.

You do not take people at their word about their *own* experiences.

I?

 

[JohnEmmett]

You are not worth talking to.

I forgive you for becoming emotional


that often happens with this effect

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

people are aware of what movies said

why is this difficult to accept

That's the thing - if you're already familiar with one version of a phrase, you're unlikely to change your use of it on a single hearing with a small difference (unless that difference is significant in some way, and so, memorable for being significantly different).

It's been shown experimentally that this happens, and also that people may even hear (or think they heard) what they were expecting to hear. so the 'glitch' can be a perceptual one too.

Ironically, this is a case where the original memory (correct or not) is robust through long repetition (like the 'Mirror, mirror' example). It's not so different from the experience that many people are familiar with, of having misheard the lyrics of a song (sometimes as nonsensical), then being surprised to hear the correct lyrics some years later, but rapidly forgetting what they were ("Gladly, the cross-eyed bear" is an exception here - many people just like the incorrect version better).