Quantum Immortality Test

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

just to make a point

It makes the point that you don't have an honest argument.

You ran away from the comparison of changing timelines and fallible memory as explanations, and now you've resorted to dishonest misrepresentation.

Sad, but not entirely surprising. What next, more deepities?

 

[JohnEmmett]

It's been shown experimentally that this happens

where does the phrase "Fly my pretties fly" come from?


why can everyone (except skeptics) remember the scene?


why can't skeptics admit their own memories?

 

[JohnEmmett]

What next, more deepities?

accusations are no sort of argument

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

where does the phrase "Fly my pretties fly" come from?


why can everyone (except skeptics) remember the scene?


why can't skeptics admit their own memories?

It's another misquote meme. In the Wiz of Oz, the witch calls Dorothy "My pretty!", and later sends out her flying monkeys with "Fly, fly fly!". These two were conflated by some people, perhaps deliberately, because diacope and anaphora are far more rhetorically attractive than simple repetition:

• Diacope: this is the verbal sandwich i.e. the structure is ‘one word/phrase / other word(s) / one word/phrase repeated’ in one sentence. In Henry’s Saint Crispian speech (Henry V), he motivates his men with this line ‘We few, we happy few, we band of brothers’; this is both diacope and anaphora! ‘Fly, my pretties, fly’ says the Wicked Witch of the West – only she does not actually say it; such is the measure of diacope’s success that so many people believe she does! [MR HENNEMAN'S ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND LITERATURE]
  

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

accusations are no sort of argument

Exactly.

The charitable goodwill is now exhausted, poster. Please insert one apology to continue.

 

[JohnEmmett]

It's another misquote … These two were conflated by some people, perhaps deliberately

there would be no debate if you would consider what we are saying


that reality has changed and we are quite sure

 

[JohnEmmett]

perhaps the Mandela effect is a kind of medicine

 

[Kylie]

Others are capable of checking their memories


So, you are capable

You can not use a potentially flawed tool to check itself, because if it is flawed, ALL the results you get from it will be flawed, including any results that say it is not flawed.

 

[JohnEmmett]

You can not use a potentially flawed tool to check itself, because if it is flawed, ALL the results you get from it will be flawed, including any results that say it is not flawed.

…

 

[JohnEmmett]

…

you need to speak for yourself and about yourself

your memory …

 

[Kylie]

you need to speak for yourself and about yourself

your memory …

Yeah, I haven't seen you post ANYTHING that can't be explained by flawed memories.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Yeah, I haven't seen you post ANYTHING that can't be explained by flawed memories.

you mean explained away

 

[Kylie]

you mean explained away

That implies that your position is the more rational one. You've provided precisely zero rational support.

 

[JohnEmmett]

That implies that your position is the more rational one. You've provided precisely zero rational support.

people know their memories


especially because of their stories about those memories


which indicate the memory is reliable

 

[Kylie]

people know their memories


especially because of their stories about those memories


which indicate the memory is reliable

It indicates no such thing. You are using a faulty tool to measure the accuracy of the faulty tool.

If I have a foot long measure that's only six inches long, how can I use it to show that it's faulty? I use the measure to mark out a line that it says is a foot long, and then I use the only measure I have - the faulty measure - to check it. It's going to show that it's a foot long, even thoughj it's still only six inches.

 

[JohnEmmett]

It indicates no such thing. You are using a faulty tool to measure the accuracy of the faulty tool.

your ability to accept is faulty

 

[Kylie]

your ability to accept is faulty

I am more than happy to accept. You just haven't given me a good reason to do so.

 

[JohnEmmett]

I am more than happy to accept. You just haven't given me a good reason to do so.

Suppose everyone agrees about the way things are.

And your memory agrees with theirs.

Are you going to doubt them? Does that make sense?

You know. Even if reality changed.

~

 

[Kylie]

Suppose everyone agrees about the way things are.

And your memory agrees with theirs.

Are you going to doubt them? Does that make sense?

You know. Even if reality changed.

~

Argument from popularity.

I do not know anything that does not have testable evidence to back it up.

 

[JohnEmmett]

I do not know anything that does not have testable evidence to back it up.

you can test upon yourself