Quantum Immortality Test

[JohnEmmett]

he comes from a different world, a world where he didn’t have an affair?

I don't recommend lying

 

[Vap841]

I don't recommend lying

But with the Mandela Effect there’s no such thing as knowing if something is a lie or not. Mandela Effect says that he could be someone different who didn’t have an affair…or he could not be someone different. It’s not even possible for the person themself to be able to verify truth…hmm did I legitimately remember that phone number incorrectly, or did I world hop again??

 

[JohnEmmett]

Mandela Effect says…

If you're not sure… it's not possible to count…

It's just… don't know.

 

[Vap841]

If you're not sure… it's not possible to count…

It's just… I don't know.

There’s no such thing as being allowed to say to yourself “Wait, did I remember that correctly?” if the proof for Mandela Effect is memory, and if every person in the room has relative memories of what has always been vs what has changed.

How do you tell the difference between you remembering something wrong vs you having gone through another world hop?

 

[JohnEmmett]

How do you tell the difference?

Must have good reason for the memory.

Associated memories. Perhaps a history…

 

[Vap841]

Must have good reason for the memory.

Associated memories. Perhaps a history…

But the “Associated Memories” undermines itself once the theory goes on to say that every person’s memories could be different from each other because different people world hop at different times, and with different frequencies. There’s no foundation of group memory to rely on anymore after you add that elusive factor into it.

 

[JohnEmmett]

There’s no foundation of group memory to rely on …

The known examples are shared by a majority …

 

[Vap841]

The known examples are shared by a majority …

The only people who will be leaving comments in agreement with you are those who agree with you, it’s an echo chamber not a majority. But you’re contradicting yourself, you can’t talk about confirmation via majorities, but then turn around and say that everyone’s memories are relative based on when and how often each person world hops.

 

[JohnEmmett]

echo chamber not a majority.

what I find is memories about the examples

taking the form of stories…

youtube.com/watch?v=ZxNjRZ4dJ6M

 

[Vap841]

what I find is memories about the examples

taking the form of stories…

youtube.com/watch?v=ZxNjRZ4dJ6M

She was 3 years old. It’s not uncommon to have more than one legend floating around, there could have been 100 possible follow up conversations in front of her about that statue, or about the other legend, that she doesn’t remember. And from many different people besides her aunt. There could have been something as random as one conversation with the mailman at the front door about the other legend, and the memory stuck.

I can’t count how many times I have been shocked at what a toddler said, having no idea how they would know to say such a thing, and even the mom or dad will say that they have no idea where they picked it up from.

 

[JohnEmmett]

She was 3 years old.

She was familiar with the statue for about 30 years

 

[Kylie]

God would not make our memory unreliable

But he has.

 

[Vap841]

She was familiar with the statue for about 30 years

She was wrong for 30 years, no different than it not being extremely uncommon for me to find out that I have been singing a song wrong for 30 years. There obviously are two legend stories. This is anecdotal, she says “I looked over and all the sudden it was a man!” How do we know how observant she is, or how far off it is, or if on that particular day she noticed something very tiny that she never noticed before and it caused her to pull over and walk up to it for a better look, and that was when she realized that she was WAY off? A bunch of unknowns from one person telling a story. There’s also a person wanting something to be true so much that they over exaggerated. There are attention seekers. There’s poor eyesight, etc.

 

[JohnEmmett]

But he has.

You remember who you are without fail…

 

[JohnEmmett]

She was wrong for 30 years

Her memory is in the context of this effect.

 

[Kylie]

You remember who you are without fail…

No you don't.

 

[JohnEmmett]

No you don't.

Your identity is memory.

You never forget…

 

[Kylie]

Your identity is memory.

You never forget…

You really gotta start giving more than soundbites and unsupported claims. You're providing nothing of value that I can see. Your claims have no evidence to back them up, they are merely your repeated assertions.

 

[JohnEmmett]

You're providing nothing of value that I can see.

Perhaps if your mind was open…

 

[Kylie]

Perhaps if your mind was open…

You would have me open my mind so far that my brain falls out.

Provide evidence and I will listen. If all you do is make claims that are easily explainable by naturalistic things, then I don't see any reason why I should believe your position is true.