Quantum Immortality Test

[Kylie]

For memories we are not sure of… we are not sure.

For memories we are sure of… we have a good reason for being sure.

And how sure we are about a memory has no connection to how accurate it is.

 

[JohnEmmett]

The wealth of scientific evidence supports my claim. Memory is not reliable, and there's nothing special about your memory.

If you want to find memory unreliable, you can find this out.

If you want to find memory reliable, you can find this out.

Both are true, neither is true.

 

[JohnEmmett]

And how sure we are about a memory has no connection to how accurate it is.

Mere skepticism.

 

[Kylie]

If you want to find memory unreliable, you can find this out.

If you want to find memory reliable, you can find this out.

Both are true, neither is true.

So you just pick and choose what you want to believe? That's not how reality works.

Mere skepticism.

Nah, evidence-based science.

 

[JohnEmmett]

So you just pick and choose what you want to believe? That's not how reality works.

You find memory reliable quite often.

Sometimes you don't.

Nah, evidence-based science.

The observer changes the outcome of the experiment.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

For memories we are not sure of… we are not sure.

For memories we are sure of… we have a good reason for being sure.

If your memory is correct, you are different and special. If your memory is false you are no different to everyone else, so you are not special.

Your desire to be special is not "a good reason for being sure". It is just egocentricity.

 

[JohnEmmett]

If your memory is correct, you are different and special. If your memory is false you are no different to everyone else, so you are not special.

Your desire to be special is not "a good reason for being sure". It is just egocentricity.

Luke 6:37

 

[Kylie]

You find memory reliable quite often.

Sometimes you don't.

Often it is, but with the kind of every day thing that isn't really that important. I have a memory of making toast for my breakfast this morning, for example. But my memory that I left the jar of Vegemite with the label facing away from the wall could very well be mistaken, and perhaps I left the jar with the label facing the wall instead.

The observer changes the outcome of the experiment.

Which doesn't apply in this case, since that only applies to quantum mechanics, not studies of Human memory.

 

[Kylie]

Luke 6:37

How about: "Thou shalt provide evidence to support the claims thou maketh, or thou shalt not be considered a purveyor of facts."

 

[JohnEmmett]

that only applies to quantum mechanics, not studies of memory.

Seek and you will find.

 

[Kylie]

Seek and you will find.

Another non-answer. It is not up to me to seek the evidence to support your position. You must provide that yourself.

 

[JohnEmmett]

How about: "Thou shalt provide evidence to support the claims thou maketh, or thou shalt not be considered a purveyor of facts."

The irony is… I'm sharing the evidence.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Luke 6:37

Matthew 12:37

 

[JohnEmmett]

Matthew 12:37

I expect everyone to become aware.

As is happening…

 

[Kylie]

The irony is… I'm sharing the evidence.

Nah you're not. You're just making claims and then saying that anyone who disagrees with you is closed minded, or too skeptical, etc. The only thing you've provided is stories from people who really believe what they think they remember.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Nah you're not. The only thing you've provided is stories from people who really believe what they think they remember.

Yes, they really believe.

 

[Kylie]

Yes, they really believe.

And believing in something isn't enough to make it true, is it?

 

[JohnEmmett]

And believing in something isn't enough to make it true, is it?

You believe in your perspective.

 

[Kylie]

You believe in your perspective.

Yes or no please.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Yes or no, please.

Belief may be true.