Q & A Why did Paul break the Old Testament in Hebrews 8:13?

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The Mosaic Covenant did what it was given to do and people were saved by grace through faith in accordance with being under that covenant. The fault that God found with the Mosaic Covenant was not with its terms as though it could not do what it was given to do, but rather God found fault with the people for not continuing in it, which is why the New Covenant still involves following the Torah while being based on better promises and having a superior mediator (Hebrews 8:7-10).
And yet there's more to it than that. The new covenant is better because it directly addresses the fault within man that causes his failure to obey the law to begin with. And that fault, initiated by Adam in Eden with his act of disobedience, is alienation or separation from God. So with the new covenant we gain more direct knowledge of God through the revelation of His Son, and reconciliation with Him as we then turn to Him in faith. From within that faith-born union or relationship man is malleable clay in the hands of God who then does his work in us. Related to this, Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount and elsewhere shows us that the main problem with man is interior, while the law commands exterior works which may or may not truly reflect the interior state of the person.

The new covenant was established in the "fullness of time", when mankind was just ready to begin to receive that new light: that man was made for communion with God. "Apart from Me you can do nothing." John 15:5
 
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If there is no Law then there is no sin, what need is there for grace? Sin is the transgression of the law.
Romans 2:12 (NASB95)
12 For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law;
 
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Romans 2:12 (NASB95)
12 For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law;
So answer my question.
 
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And yet there's more to it than that. The new covenant is better because it directly addresses the fault within man that causes his failure to obey the law to begin with. And that fault, initiated by Adam in Eden with his act of disobedience, is alienation or separation from God. So with the new covenant we gain more direct knowledge of God through the revelation of His Son, and reconciliation with Him as we then turn to Him in faith. From within that faith-born union or relationship man is malleable clay in the hands of God who then does his work in us. Related to this, Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount and elsewhere shows us that the main problem with man is interior, while the law commands exterior works which may or may not truly reflect the interior state of the person.

The new covenant was established in the "fullness of time", when mankind was just ready to begin to receive that new light: that man was made for communion with God. "Apart from Me you can do nothing." John 15:5
In regard to the redemption cycle of the Israelites, the good kings tended to live much longer than the evil kings did, so they were under a good king for a majority of the time, which while far from perfect is also farther from a failure to obey God's law.

In Deuteronomy 10:12-16, it instructed the Israelites to circumcised their hearts and obey the Torah, and in Deuteronomy 30:1-10, it prophesies about a time when the Israelites would return from exile, God would circumcise their hearts, and they would return to obedience to the Torah. In Ezekiel 36:26-27 and Jeremiah 31:33, they speak in regard to the New Covenant, to the Israelites returning from exile, and God circumcising their hearts by means of the Spirit, where God would take away their hearts of stone, give them hearts of flesh, and sent the Spirit to lead us in obedience to the Torah, and where He would put the Torah in our minds and write it on our hearts. In Romans 2:25-29, the way to recognize that a Gentile has a circumcised heart is by observing their obedience to the Torah, which is the same way to tell for a Jew, and circumcision of the heart is a matter of the Spirit, which is in contrast with Acts 7:51-53, where those with uncircumcised hearts resit the Spirit and do not obey the Torah. So the New Covenant is all about Israel returning to obedience to the Torah.

Before Adam and Even had eaten from either tree, they were at a crossroads between morality and eternal life, morality by eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil or eternal life by eating from the Tree of Life, and in Deuteronomy 30:11-20, the Israelites were an identical crossroads where Moses presented before them the way to death or eternal life, life and a blessing for obedience to the Torah or death and curse for disobedience, so choose life, and the majority chose life. In Exodus 33:13, Moses wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to walk in His way that he might know Him and Israel too, and in Matthew 7:23, Jesus said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew them, so even under the New Covenant the Torah is still the only way to have direct knowledge of God and Jesus, which is eternal life (John 17:3). In Romans 7:12, the Torah is holy, righteous, and good, and in Matthew 23:23, Jesus said that justice, mercy, and faithfulness are weightier matters of the Torah, so the Torah has always been given as a gift to command the interior, which is in accordance with the Sermon on the Mount, and it is through acting in accordance with these and other aspects of God's nature in accordance with the Torah that we have knowledge of God and Jesus.
 
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In regard to the redemption cycle of the Israelites, the good kings tended to live much longer than the evil kings did, so they were under a good king for a majority of the time, which while far from perfect is also farther from a failure to obey God's law.

In Deuteronomy 10:12-16, it instructed the Israelites to circumcised their hearts and obey the Torah, and in Deuteronomy 30:1-10, it prophesies about a time when the Israelites would return from exile, God would circumcise their hearts, and they would return to obedience to the Torah. In Ezekiel 36:26-27 and Jeremiah 31:33, they speak in regard to the New Covenant, to the Israelites returning from exile, and God circumcising their hearts by means of the Spirit, where God would take away their hearts of stone, give them hearts of flesh, and sent the Spirit to lead us in obedience to the Torah, and where He would put the Torah in our minds and write it on our hearts. In Romans 2:25-29, the way to recognize that a Gentile has a circumcised heart is by observing their obedience to the Torah, which is the same way to tell for a Jew, and circumcision of the heart is a matter of the Spirit, which is in contrast with Acts 7:51-53, where those with uncircumcised hearts resit the Spirit and do not obey the Torah. So the New Covenant is all about Israel returning to obedience to the Torah.

Before Adam and Even had eaten from either tree, they were at a crossroads between morality and eternal life, morality by eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil or eternal life by eating from the Tree of Life, and in Deuteronomy 30:11-20, the Israelites were an identical crossroads where Moses presented before them the way to death or eternal life, life and a blessing for obedience to the Torah or death and curse for disobedience, so choose life, and the majority chose life. In Exodus 33:13, Moses wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to walk in His way that he might know Him and Israel too, and in Matthew 7:23, Jesus said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew them, so even under the New Covenant the Torah is still the only way to have direct knowledge of God and Jesus, which is eternal life (John 17:3). In Romans 7:12, the Torah is holy, righteous, and good, and in Matthew 23:23, Jesus said that justice, mercy, and faithfulness are weightier matters of the Torah, so the Torah has always been given as a gift to command the interior, which is in accordance with the Sermon on the Mount, and it is through acting in accordance with these and other aspects of God's nature in accordance with the Torah that we have knowledge of God and Jesus.
While I agree with much of this I'd reverse the order of coming to know God. Knowledge is a key difference between the old and new covenants, as per Jer 31:34 and also John 17:3. By an act of grace God reveals Himself to us first-and then we respond, or not. But if we do, then His response is to put His law in our minds and write it on our hearts. Righteousness is a direct consequence of submitting oneself to God, of believing in, hoping in, and loving Him-of fellowship with Him. So also in Rom 7 Paul gives us the true purpose of the law, which is to demonstrate to us that we do fail at living up to it-all of us. He even excelled at observing the law according to Phil 3, and yet became aware that mere obedience of the law does not necessarily indicate sonship of God, let alone knowing Him. Grace, then faith, resulting in union with God is the difference.

"What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith." Phil 3:8-9
 
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The OT Law was given to make man educated and able to define and to recognize the reasons for atonement.

The OT Law was also given as to guarantee the survival of the gene pool (Israel) so that the Messiah could be born as promised....


Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed
to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted
to a mediator."
Galatians 3:19


Understanding salvation began with the Jews.

You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know,
for salvation is from the Jews."
John 4:22

The OT Law was fulfilled on the Cross. So, the Old Covenant (not simply the old testament Scriptures) was shut down and a new covenant was introduced.

This time, the new covenant was not only to the Jews, but all mankind. For the Messiah had come (by means of the preservation of Israel) and Jesus had made atonement for all.

If one does not understand the OT Law one can not understand the significance of the Cross!

OT scriptures are essential today for studying.

The Cross was completed. So,the need for the first covenant Law to keep the line of the seed perpetuated till the Messiah came ceased being needed.

The new covenant now has His law written in our hearts making it ingrained in our mind as to function in grace, not law.

grace and peace ...............
 
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The OT Law was given to make man educated and able to define and to recognize the reasons for atonement.

The OT Law was also given as to guarantee the survival of the gene pool (Israel) so that the Messiah could be born as promised....


Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed
to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted
to a mediator."
Galatians 3:19


Understanding salvation began with the Jews.

You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know,
for salvation is from the Jews."
John 4:22

The OT Law was fulfilled on the Cross. So, the Old Covenant (not simply the old testament Scriptures) was shut down and a new covenant was introduced.

This time, the new covenant was not only to the Jews, but all mankind. For the Messiah had come (by means of the preservation of Israel) and Jesus had made atonement for all.

If one does not understand the OT Law one can not understand the significance of the Cross!

OT scriptures are essential today for studying.

The Cross was completed. So,the need for the first covenant Law to keep the line of the seed perpetuated till the Messiah came ceased being needed.

The new covenant now has His law written in our hearts making it ingrained in our mind as to function in grace, not law.

grace and peace ...............
In Exodus 33:13, Moses wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to walk in His way that he might know Him, and in Matthew 7:23, Jesus said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew him, so the Torah was given as a gift in order to teach us how to know God and Jesus, which is eternal life (John 17:3). Jesus fulfilled the Torah by spending his ministry teaching us how to correctly obey it by word and by example, so the reason why the Torah leads us to Jesus is because it teaches us how to have a relationship with him, but it does not lead us to him so that we can then disregard everything that he taught and go back to living in sin. In Jeremiah 31:31-33, the New Covenant was only made with the house of Judah and the house of Israel, and involves God putting the Torah in our minds and writing it on our hearts.

Our salvation is from sin (Matthew 1:21) and it is by the Torah that we have knowledge of what sin is (Romans 3:20), so living in obedience to it through faith in Jesus is intrinsically part of the concept of him saving us from not living in obedience to it, and it is contradictory for someone who thinks that they don't need to obey the Torah to also think that they need salvation from not living in obedience to it. In Titus 2:11-14, our salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, so again God graciously teaching us to live in obedience to the Torah is itself the content of His gift of saving us from not living in obedience to it. Furthermore, in Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to the Torah is the way to believe in what Jesus accomplished through the cross (Acts 21:20).
 
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While I agree with much of this I'd reverse the order of coming to know God. Knowledge is a key difference between the old and new covenants, as per Jer 31:34 and also John 17:3. By an act of grace God reveals Himself to us first-and then we respond, or not. But if we do, then His response is to put His law in our minds and write it on our hearts. Righteousness is a direct consequence of submitting oneself to God, of believing in, hoping in, and loving Him-of fellowship with Him.
There is still the issue that Moses wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey the Torah that he and Israel might know Him. Likewise, in Jeremiah 9:3 and 9:6, they did not know God and refused to know Him because in 9:13, they had forsaken the Torah, while in 9:24, those who know God know that He delights in practicing steadfast love, justice, and righteousness in all of the earth, so delighting in practicing those and other aspects of God's nature in obedience to the Torah is again the way to know Him, which is eternal life. In regard to Jeremiah 31:33-34, in the Messianic era, know what will need to teach others how to know God because the Torah will be put in our minds and written on our hearts. Similarly, in Psalms 119, David wanted God to be gracious to Him by teaching him to obey the Torah, so obedience to it through faith in accordance with it being put in our minds and written on our hearts is how God reveals Himself to us. Righteousness is not a direct consequence of submitting ourselves to God, but rather it is submitting ourselves to God, believing in Him, hoping in Him, and loving Him.

So also in Rom 7 Paul gives us the true purpose of the law, which is to demonstrate to us that we do fail at living up to it-all of us.
Nowhere does Romans 7 says that the purposes of the Torah is to demonstrate to us that we do fail at living up to it. Rather, in Deuteronomy 30:11-14, it says that it is not too difficult for us to obey. It would be completely pointless to command someone to do something for the purpose of demonstrating that they can't obey it, like commanding someone to jump to the moon in order to demonstrate to them that they can't do that. Furthermore, there are many examples of people who did live up to it, such as those in Joshua 22:1-3, Luke 1:5-6, Hebrews 5:9, Revelation 14:12, and Revelation 22:14.

He even excelled at observing the law according to Phil 3, and yet became aware that mere obedience of the law does not necessarily indicate sonship of God, let alone knowing Him. Grace, then faith, resulting in union with God is the difference.

"What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith." Phil 3:8-9
In 1 John 2:6, those who say that they know Jesus, but don't obey him are liars, in 1 John 3:4-10, those who continue to sin in transgression of the Torah have neither seen nor know him and that those who do not practice righteousness in obedience to it are not sons of God, and in Matthew 7:23, Jesus said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew them, so knowing God's and Jesus is the goal of the Torah (Romans 10:2-4). In Philippians 3:8-9, Paul had been keeping the Torah, but without having a focus on knowing Christ, so he had been missing the whole goal of the Torah and counted it all as rubbish. Paul was in the same situation as those in Romans 9:30-10:4, where he had failed to attain righteousness because he had misunderstood the goal of the Torah by pursuing it as through righteousness were the result of our works rather than pursuing it as through righteousness were by faith in Christ, for knowing Christ is the goal of the Torah for righteousness for everyone who has faith. Obeying the Torah while missing its goal leads to death just as assuredly as refusing to obey it.
 
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There is still the issue that Moses wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey the Torah that he and Israel might know Him. Likewise, in Jeremiah 9:3 and 9:6, they did not know God and refused to know Him because in 9:13, they had forsaken the Torah, while in 9:24, those who know God know that He delights in practicing steadfast love, justice, and righteousness in all of the earth, so delighting in practicing those and other aspects of God's nature in obedience to the Torah is again the way to know Him, which is eternal life. In regard to Jeremiah 31:33-34, in the Messianic era, know what will need to teach others how to know God because the Torah will be put in our minds and written on our hearts. Similarly, in Psalms 119, David wanted God to be gracious to Him by teaching him to obey the Torah, so obedience to it through faith in accordance with it being put in our minds and written on our hearts is how God reveals Himself to us. Righteousness is not a direct consequence of submitting ourselves to God, but rather it is submitting ourselves to God, believing in Him, hoping in Him, and loving Him.
I'd say that reconciliation with God, wrought by His Son, must come first. And that reconciliation is "appropriated" or takes place within us as we turn to Him in faith. That's our first right step, one that pleases Him immensely because it means union, agreement, right stead with Him: that relationship is the essence or basis of man's justice. From there we're gifted with a new righteousness that comes from Him alone (which is why the law, by itself, does not justify). And we're obliged to walk in that justice or righteousness that the law makes us aware of but cannot accomplish.

"For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit." Rom 8:3-4

But we may not even want to know God and experience the reconciliation with Him that said knowledge results in, preferring ourselves and our own way instead,
Nowhere does Romans 7 says that the purposes of the Torah is to demonstrate to us that we do fail at living up to it.
Sure it does.

"What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law."

"Did that which is good, then, become death to me? By no means! Nevertheless, in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it used what is good to bring about my death, so that through the commandment sin might become utterly sinful."
Rom 7:7 &13

And this is why the law, while absolutely right and correct, has historically been understood in Christianity to serve as a tutor, convicting us of sin while preparing us to realize that we need more than mere exterior rules in order to be truly righteous; we need change, interior change, new hearts. Man needs grace, man needs God, IOW, for everything, including success at authentic morality. The ten commandments, for example, are still held as obligatory, but fulfillable only by struggle and grace. God never commanded man to do anything that it would be impossible for man to do; He only knows that we cannot do it, we cannot be who we were created to be, when apart from Him. Sin only exists within us and is acted out in this world because of man's spiritual separation from God.
Paul had been keeping the Torah, but without having a focus on knowing Christ, so he had been missing the whole goal of the Torah and counted it all as rubbish. Paul was in the same situation as those in Romans 9:30-10:4, where he had failed to attain righteousness because he had misunderstood the goal of the Torah by pursuing it as through righteousness were the result of our works rather than pursuing it as through righteousness were by faith in Christ, for knowing Christ is the goal of the Torah for righteousness for everyone who has faith. Obeying the Torah while missing its goal leads to death just as assuredly as refusing to obey it.
I'm saying grace comes first. The Damascus road experience was a dramatic example of God turning a man around but we all must experience it in some manner. God appeals to us; He knocks on our door. He draws us to His righteousness by drawing us to Himself and, as we turn and follow, we grow in it, in the real thing, in love to put it most precisely. As we come to appreciate love, because we love Him as He first loved us, and then begin to express and share that same love, it grows, and the law becomes fulfilled accordingly, the right way, God's way.

So it's not an either/or thing, but both/and, with our willingness, our cooperation in God's work with Him initiating and us following, striving to obey now with the help of His grace...or not.
 
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In order for one thing to make something else obsolete, it needs to do everything that it does and more, ...
Untrue ... for one thing to make something else obsolete, ... it merely has to make that other thing unnecessary ...
 
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According to Galatians 5:14, anyone who has ever loved their neighbor has fulfilled the entire Torah, so countless people have done that.
That's not what Galatians 5:14 says ... fulfilling the entire Law would require consistent, without any failure, loving of one's neighbor as themselves.

Recall that James said that "any breaking of the Law ... is breaking the entire Law" ...
 
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No ... that's your own extension upon the definition of obsolete.

A textbook definition ...

adjective: obsolete

  1. 1.
    no longer produced or used; out of date.
    "the disposal of old and obsolete machinery"

    Similar:
    out of date
    outdated
    outmoded
    old-fashioned
    no longer in use
    disused
    fallen into disuse
    outworn
    antiquated
    antediluvian
    anachronistic
    discarded
    discontinued
    old
    dated
    antique
    archaic
    ancient
    fossilized
    extinct
    defunct
    dead
    bygone
    out of fashion
    out
    behind the times
    démodé
    passé
    old hat
    geriatric
    prehistoric
    past its sell-by date
    antwacky
    Opposite:
    contemporary
    current
    modern
    new
    up to date

  2. 2.
    BIOLOGY
    (of a part or characteristic of an organism) less developed than formerly or in a related species; rudimentary; vestigial.
verb

US

verb: obsolete; 3rd person present: obsoletes; past tense: obsoleted; past participle: obsoleted; gerund or present participle: obsoleting

  1. cause (a product or idea) to be or become obsolete by replacing it with something new.
    "we're trying to stimulate the business by obsoleting last year's designs"

If you have some other basis for your definition, please provide that ...
 
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That's not what Galatians 5:14 says ... fulfilling the entire Law would require consistent, without any failure, loving of one's neighbor as themselves.
On the contrary Galatians 5:14 does not say anything about consistent love without failure.

NAS Greek Lexicon: pleroo
"to fulfil, i.e. to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God's promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilment"

This definition says nothing about obeying God's law without failure, but rather we fulfill the law by showing a correct understanding of how to obey it. Everything commanded in the Mosaic Law is about how to love God and our neighbor, so love fulfill is because it is showing a correct understanding of how to obey it. Furthermore, there is much discussion in other Jewish writings about how to fulfill the law in the sense of discussing how to correctly obey it.

Recall that James said that "any breaking of the Law ... is breaking the entire Law" ...
In James 2:1-11, he was speaking to people who had sinned by showing favoritism, so he was not telling them that they needed to have perfect obedience because that would have already been too late, and he was not discouraging them from trying to obey it, but rather he was encouraging them to repent and obey it with consistency. The fact that we can repent after we have sinned demonstrated that we do not need to obey God's law without failure.
 
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No ... that's your own extension upon the definition of obsolete.

A textbook definition ...

adjective: obsolete

  1. 1.
    no longer produced or used; out of date.
    "the disposal of old and obsolete machinery"

    Similar:
    out of date
    outdated
    outmoded
    old-fashioned
    no longer in use
    disused
    fallen into disuse
    outworn
    antiquated
    antediluvian
    anachronistic
    discarded
    discontinued
    old
    dated
    antique
    archaic
    ancient
    fossilized
    extinct
    defunct
    dead
    bygone
    out of fashion
    out
    behind the times
    démodé
    passé
    old hat
    geriatric
    prehistoric
    past its sell-by date
    antwacky
    Opposite:
    contemporary
    current
    modern
    new
    up to date

  2. 2.
    BIOLOGY
    (of a part or characteristic of an organism) less developed than formerly or in a related species; rudimentary; vestigial.
verb

US

verb: obsolete; 3rd person present: obsoletes; past tense: obsoleted; past participle: obsoleted; gerund or present participle: obsoleting

  1. cause (a product or idea) to be or become obsolete by replacing it with something new.
    "we're trying to stimulate the business by obsoleting last year's designs"
I see what I said as being in accordance with the definitions that you have given, though the point is not to quibble over the definition of "obsolete", but the reality is that the New Covenant still involve following the Torah, so it is the same as the Mosaic Covenant plus being based on better promises and having a superior mediator (Hebrews 8:6-13).
 
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On the contrary Galatians 5:14 does not say anything about consistent love without failure.
I agree with you ... this understanding is not found in Galatians 5:14. It is, however, found in Paul and James' writings. James, ... I've cited in the prior posting.

Paul says in Romans chapter 3 ...

19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
 
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I see what I said as being in accordance with the definitions that you have given, though the point is not to quibble over the definition of "obsolete", but the reality is that the New Covenant still involve following the Torah, so it is the same as the Mosaic Covenant plus being based on better promises and having a superior mediator (Hebrews 8:6-13).
The New Covenant has nothing to do with following the Torah, as says Paul ... we are completely justified by the righteousness of Christ.

Romans 3

20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
 
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I agree with you ... this understanding is not found in Galatians 5:14. It is, however, found in Paul and James' writings. James, ... I've cited in the prior posting.
Neither Paul nor James nor any other author of the Bible spoke about needing to obey God's law without failure or about anything special that we earn as a wage if we somehow manage to keep it without failure, especially because it came instructions for what to do when the people sinned. If we needed to keep God's law without failure for some strange reason, then there would be no point in repentance because it would change to fact that it is already too late for us to keep it without failure, so the fact that we can repent after we have failed to keep it and return to keeping it demonstrates that we don't need to keep it without failure. In Deuteronomy 30:11-20, it is presented as a choice and as a possibility, not as the need to keep it without failure. Furthermore, there are many examples of people keeping God's law through only Jesus kept it without failure, such as those in Joshua 8:1-3, Luke 1:5-6, Hebrews 5:9, Revelation 14:12, and Revelation 22:14.

Paul says in Romans chapter 3 ...

19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
For someone to have a character trait is to be someone who chooses to act in accordance with that trait, so the concept of being someone who has a character trait can't be removed from the concept of being someone who chooses to act in accordance with that trait. For example, to say that God is righteous is to say that He chooses to act righteously while it would be inaccurate to say that God is righteous if He did not choose to act righteously, so while we do not earn our righteousness as the result of having done what is righteous, the gift of become righteous is nevertheless the gift of becoming someone who choses to act righteously.

The Torah is God's instructions for how to act righteously, not for how to result in becoming righteous. For example, the Torah reveals that it is righteous to help the poor, but no amount of helping the poor will ever cause someone to earn their righteousness because the one and only way that there has ever been to become righteous that is testified about by the Torah and the Prophets is through faith in Christ (Romans 3:21-22). So by God declaring someone to be righteous, He is declaring them to be someone who chooses to act in accordance with His righteousness in obedience to the Torah. If we could become righteous apart from becoming someone who acts righteously, then our faith would abolish our need to obey the Torah, but rathe our faith upholds it (Romans 3:31), so the same faith by which we are declared righteous is also expressed by acting righteously in obedience to the Torah. In other words all those who have faith are justified and are doers of the Torah, which is how Paul can say in verses like Romans 2:13 that only doers of the Torah will be declared righteous while also denying in verses like Romans 4:1-5 that we can earn our righteousness as the result of being a doer of the Torah.

The New Covenant has nothing to do with following the Torah, as says Paul ... we are completely justified by the righteousness of Christ.
Jesus spent his ministry teaching how to walk in obedience to the Torah by word and by example and He did not establish the New Covenant for the purpose of negating everything that he taught, but rather the New Covenant involves God will putting the Torah in our minds and writing it on our hearts (Jeremiah 31:33), so I don't see any grounds for you to claim that it has nothing to do with following the Torah or for you to interpret Paul as saying that. The Torah is God word and Jesus is God's word made flesh, so we can't follow him instead of following God's word and Paul should not be interpreted as speaking against following Jesus. Jesus expressed his righteousness by embodying the Torah, being justified by the righteousness of Christ is not different than us also embodying the Torah through following his example.
 
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... being justified by the righteousness of Christ is not different than us also embodying the Torah through following his example.
Well, of course the two are different ... as we are justified by Christ's righteousness and not our own. As a result of justification, we seek God's guidance for our lives ...
 
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Well, of course the two are different ... as we are justified by Christ's righteousness and not our own. As a result of justification, we seek God's guidance for our lives ...
By all means explain how justification through embodying God word is a different that justification through the embodiment of God's word. God's law is His instructions for how to rely on His righteousness, not for how to establish our own. If God's law were His instructions for how to establish our own righteousness and God doesn't want us to do that, then it would follow that God doesn't want to be obeyed, which is absurd. Relying on ourselves does not involve relying on anyone else, so you are incorrect to think that relying on what God has instructed is relying on ourselves rather than relying on God alone.
 
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