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Does what God Reveals in His Word ScriptureThe Bible doesn't say it was 6,000 years ago. Scripture doesn't say to count the generations to determine the age of the heavens and earth either.
Of coarse when it's within reason. Plutonium-242, Has a half-life of 374,000 yearsDoes what God Reveals in His Word Scripture
matter to you today ?
Today hmm, I've seen that before, yesterday wasn't like today?. God created Gold, He didn't create a star to supernova like today?Is this your own statement, what you choose, of your own volition, today ?
I have no idea what you see today, or what you're seen before.Today hmm, I've seen that before, yesterday wasn't like today?. God created Gold, He didn't create a star to supernova like today?
Of coarse when it's within reason.
But it is what you think yesterday was different than today, you've already revealed that just by mentioning today.I have no idea what you see today, or what you're seen before.
If this is your choice, by your own un-coerced volition, that is what I asked.
Not related to you nor your topics/posts,Can you see the silliness in that question?
Theres no evidence for this. Besides GT is still dated at 12 to 14,000 years. You can say science is wrong to believe and yet we believe the same science when it matters such as in medicine and behavioural sciences. Or even physics ie we can fly planes and people use them everyday. Its all science.The sad part is you believe in sciences veiw of everything but everything does not believe in your or scientists-ismish ideas of what they think they see. GOBEKLI TEPEI is maybe where Noah built the Ark and gathered the animals ( not my first choice ),.
Actually some say that the place Noah may have landed is around Lake Van in eastern Turkey in the Armenian highlands which is around 1650 feet above sea level and near Mt Ararat.or where he landed and bred and raised all those baby animals that God brought him.( that one is my first choice,) especially if its elevation is just above and around 1250ft. And so if that's true then also where Noahs offspring disperced the animals clan by clan, wolf clan, bear clan etc boat load by boat load.
OK I am not sure what this means.Sea levels was about 1250 between the two floods. Aka as first Noahs flood , and THEN Turtle Island event.
Turtle Island event IS WHAT GOD CALLED/ reveals as (rev 12 ) and Joshuas long day.
I am not trying to pull Gods book down. I believe everything God said. In fact I believe so much that I am confident that this will be reflected in our world and reality. Maybe not always or in that moment. But will eventually be proven true. It has to be by logic and reason.STOP TRYING TO TEAR HIS CHURCH AND HIS INSTRUCTION BOOK APART. A TRUE BELIEVER WHO KNOWS THE GOD OF CREATION , WONT BELIEVE THE NONSENSE. GOD IS A FULL GROWN GOD AND HE DID WHAT HE SAID, and HE IS DOING WHAT HE SAID, AND HE WILL DO WHAT HE SAID. PLEASE LEARN FROM HIM AND STOP FOLLOWING DISTRUCTION.
I am not sure what you mean.Ps everything we see and science finds now was probably posted noahs flood and probably post Gelgamesh's water event, God buried that hill to preserve it from mankind. Yet they rape and enslaved it now and use it to distoy others souls..
Creation - is creating something that does not exists....when I make a painting - I start with nothing.That's what creation is, it's taking what is already there and giving it form (days 1-3) and filling it with animals (4-6) tohu wa bohu.
Do you know who the father of Joseph was? Can you tell me all of his brothers? Go back further - what are Jacob's wifes name - which one was the father of Joseph? Was has Jacob's mother;s name? What about Jacob's brother's name? What did Jacob do to his brother?Moses gave us an ancient account that reflected the thoughts and genres of the people of "his" day. And because God delivered the message fairly late in the progress of human civilization, it remains poetic but cryptic, and it is tricky for us in the 21st century to appreciate.
Moreover, I think we need to be very careful to avoid being dogmatic with how we read the first two verses of chapter 1 since there is no absolute interpretive rule indicating we must take these first verses as being inclusive within 'ONE DAY / DAY ONE.'
No but Scripture does profide a complete geneology and provides date of death for each person. Its not a hard calculation.The Bible doesn't say it was 6,000 years ago. Scripture doesn't say to count the generations to determine the age of the heavens and earth either.
Do you know who the father of Joseph was? Can you tell me all of his brothers? Go back further - what are Jacob's wifes name - which one was the father of Joseph? Was has Jacob's mother;s name? What about Jacob's brother's name? What did Jacob do to his brother?
Can you answer any of these questions?
Yeah He hid it - providing us with a complete geneology was how he revealed it.Not related to you nor your topics/posts,
but
for those "concerned" : see the silliness in seeking how old the earth is ?
It remains hidden, unknown, unless God Chooses to Reveal it. It is not something for men to figure out (as if they could somehow do so).
Of course you can - because Moses gave you a detailed narrative of it. And because its neither cryptic or poetic. As you can see Moses doesn't provide historical narratives that way. The Creation narrative was written the same time the Historical narrative of Joseph was written. Its not difficult at all to understand and answer all those detailed required questions I posted to you.Sure. I can because I've probably read the entire book of Genesis about as many times as you have. And what of it?
Of course you can - because Moses gave you a detailed narrative of it. And because its neither cryptic or poetic. As you can see Moses doesn't provide historical narratives that way. The Creation narrative was written the same time the Historical narrative of Joseph was written. Its not difficult at all to understand and answer all those detailed required questions I posted to you.
Moses only lived once.....but I can understand the only spin left would be to deny Moses wrote the Creation account - good luck with that.Well, it's more like WE HOPE to know that the Historical narrative of Joseph was written at the same time of the Creation narrative.
When you make a painting (ordered paint), you start with paint (disordered/tohu wa bohu paint).Creation - is creating something that does not exists....when I make a painting - I start with nothing.
Creation: the action or process of bringing something into existence.
Silly boy - Jesus is the paint.When you make a painting (ordered paint), you start with paint (disordered/tohu wa bohu paint).
Because a painting is, materialistically, just paint that you've re-arranged for a purpose. But that paint was always there, even if it didn't serve a purpose beforehand.
And that's why tohu, in Hebrew, is sometimes translated as that without purpose or meaning.
So, materialistically, even when you make a painting, you aren't actually bringing physical matter into existence. Most likely you just went to the store and bought some paint. But you didn't actually make the paint appear out of nothing. It was there even before you began painting the painting.
The purpose, value, meaning, etc. is what has come into existence. Or the arrangement etc. But not the actual material itself.
Another example would be something like, creating a football team. How do I do that? Well, I can call my friends up on the phone. We all gather around and put on our helmets.
But the creation of the football team does not require material to appear out of nothing. It's more like a rearrangement and assignment.
This player will be the quarterback, his player will be the linebacker. Etc. now I've created my football team.
And that's what God does in Genesis. He takes the sun and moon and makes them for seasons and days, and creates them to rule the day and night (assigning positions and purpose). Or, the creation of the earth during day 3, it's already there. There is just water covering it. So God moves the water out of the way and reveals the dry land etc.
The physical material is already there. God is just doing things with that material.
Moses only lived once.....but I can understand the only spin left would be to deny Moses wrote the Creation account - good luck with that.
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