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The end of the second woe is mentioned inNothing to do with the second woe. The second woe ends in Revelation 9.
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Riberra, your rationale goes wrong when you try to incorporate the two witnesses in with the second woe.The Second Woe Revelation 9:13-21[6Th trumpet ]when 1/3 of humanity will be killed by the strange horses like creature will last until that the two witnesses will be killed and will ascend to Heaven mentioned in Revelation 11:7-14....
I have said earlier that the time of the two witnesses will begin at the FIRST TRUMPET Revelation 8 AND WILL END AT THE END of the 6 TH TRUMPET EVENTS ....Revelation 11:14Riberra, your rationale goes wrong when you try to incorporate the two witnesses in with the second woe.
The second woe ends in chapter 9. Chapter 10 starts a completely different vision. Which ends with John eating the little book, before continuing with the rest of Revelation.
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The time of the two witnesses is before any of the woes.
Between Revelation 9:21 and Revelation 11:14 there is a new vision and presentation inserted that has nothing to do with the woes.THE END OF THE SECOND WOE CLEARLY HAPPEN IN REVELATION 11:14 not in Revelation 9
Revelation 11:14
14 The second Woe is past: behold, the third Woe cometh quickly.
I have said earlier that the time of the two witnesses will begin at the FIRST TRUMPET Revelation 8 AND WILL END AT THE END of the 6 TH TRUMPET EVENTS ....Revelation 11:14
The 1260 days in Revelation 12 is fixed in concrete as the first half of the 7 years, because it is before war in heaven, which is followed by the time, times, half times.
No, the war in heaven is talking about the second heaven.Do you think Satan and the wicked angels who followed him in rebellion against God are still living in heaven with God, and Christ, and the souls of our dead Brothers and Sisters?
It means Satan's kingdom mystery Babylon the great will never rise again.The text says it is when the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of God and Christ "forever". How long is "forever"?
You are way off here, way, way off. The 1st 3.5 years are not about peace. The church is raptured and then the seals start. The 1st seal opens and he who rides the white horse rides to conquer. Then peace is taken from the earth at the red horse. Then the Great Tribulation happens within the 1st 3.5 years. Not a peaceful time..............until they say peace, peace and sudden destruction comes at the day of the Lord.4.) Rev. 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17 and 18 are Visions given to John about things that happen in the last Seven Years but these Visions are all over the place as per their timing, much of these visions overlap. The story of the END TIMES is basically told in chapters 6, 8, 9 and 16, that is the 3.5 years of Gods Wrath. Most every chapter mentioned in BOLD ABOVE is things that happen in chapters 6, 8, 9 and 16. Not much of Revelation, if any, is about the first 3.5 years of Peace.
Revelation 10 is what we can call a parenthesis ....in essence it say only that John will be presented other things to prophecy ....Between Revelation 9:21 and Revelation 11:14 there is a new vision and presentation inserted that has nothing to do with the woes.
That is right that Revelation 12:6 concern something that will happen FEW MOMENT BEFORE THE WAR in Heaven.I understand that is what you are saying. But the 1260 days of the two witnesses are the 1260 days in Revelation 12:6 before the war in heaven. Which the war in heaven is followed by the time, time, half times.
DAY 1 of the 7 Years will begin AT the FIRST Trumpet plague [Revelation 8] ....the two witnesses will prophecy DURING THE FIRST 6 TRUMPETS PLAGUES.....They will be killed BEFORE the 7 TH TRUMPET...Thus, the two witnesses time begins on day 1 of the 7 years.
The 7 TH Trumpet will "sound" right in the middle of the 7 Years....The trumpets don't begin to sound until the middle of the 7 years.
WRONG,.... that will happen AFTER the killing of the 2 Witnesses.The 1260 days in Revelation 12 is fixed in concrete as the first half of the 7 years, because it is before war in heaven, which is followed by the time, times, half times.
None of the trumpets sound until after the Abomination of Desolation is setup to be worshiped. Which would put those beginning somewhere in the middle of the 7 years.DAY 1 of the 7 Years will begin AT the FIRST Trumpet plague [Revelation 8] ....the two witnesses will prophecy DURING THE FIRST 6 TRUMPETS PLAGUES.....They will be killed BEFORE the 7 TH TRUMPET...
The 7 Th Trumpet will have sounded [in Heaven] in Revelation 11:15 before that Satan will be cast out of Heaven Revelation 12:7....and the beginning of the 42 months reign of the Beast mentioned in Revelation 13.None of the trumpets sound until after the Abomination of Desolation is setup to be worshiped. Which would put those beginning somewhere in the middle of the 7 years.
The church is Raptured before the 70th Week starts, so we disagree. The Anti-Christ comes forth in the Middle of the week just like Dan. 9:27 says. What do you think taking Peace from the Earth means? It means what is happening in the First Seal is going forth to Conquer. What happened when Hitler went forth to Conquer? He took Poland, a few other places, then War was declared. No doubt this man goes forth to Conquer in a blitzkrieg, some will try to come against him, and he will have to defeat them in Seal Two, except that will not be as fast a work, thus Peace is taken from the whole world. That doesn't mean when Jerusalem was getting Conquered FIRST that it wasn't war also, it just means it spreads to the WHOLE WORLD..Peace is taken from the WORLD..STEP 2.You are way off here, way, way off. The 1st 3.5 years are not about peace. The church is raptured and then the seals start. The 1st seal opens and he who rides the white horse rides to conquer. Then peace is taken from the earth at the red horse. Then the Great Tribulation happens within the 1st 3.5 years. Not a peaceful time..............until they say peace, peace and sudden destruction comes at the day of the Lord.
Are we there yet?The church is Raptured before the 70th Week starts, so we disagree. The Anti-Christ comes forth in the Middle of the week just like Dan. 9:27 says. What do you think taking Peace from the Earth means? It means what is happening in the First Seal is going forth to Conquer. What happened when Hitler went forth to Conquer? Ge took Poland, a few other places, then War was declared. No doubt this man goes forth to Conquer in a blitzkrieg, some will try to come against him, and he will have to defeat them in Seal Two, except that will not be as fast a work, thus Peace is taken from the whole world. That doesn't mean when Jerusalem was getting Conquered FIRST that it wasn't war also, it just means it spreads to the WHOLE WORLD..Peace is taken from the WORLD..STEP 2.
The full Seven Years is Jacobs Troubles. The 1st 3.5 years is the PEACE/SECURITY although a fake deceptive peace, its still peace. Then comes Gods Wrath, Jesus opens the First Seal and the Jewish peoples see the Greatest TROUBLES EVER SEEN....These Troubles # Greatest Troubles, only last until they are killed (2/3 are killed) or the other 1/3 are in the Wilderness, protected by God. The Beast is going to be like Hitler, hes going to try and kill all the Jews except the False Prophet. Hes going to do this fast, but the 1/3 will be saved because they heeded their Messiah's warning.
So this GREATEST TROUBLES will not last very long, God protects Israel in the Wilderness for 1260 Days, and the rest are killed fairly quickly I would assume.
The last 3.5 Years is GODS WRATH on mankind.
The Day of the Lord is a 3.5 year period, NOT ONE DAY. Go look up it every mention in the old testament and you will see, its a VERY LONG PERIOD of time.
When the two witnesses are killed, the beast reigns 42 months unhampered by their presence.The 7 Th Trumpet will have sounded [in Heaven] in Revelation 11:15 before that Satan will be cast out of Heaven Revelation 12:7....and the beginning of the 42 months reign of the Beast mentioned in Revelation 13.
Of course, they will be dead Revelation 11:7-14 ...resurrected ..and will have ascended to Heaven ...some moment before the beginning of the 42 months reign of the Beast Revelation 13.When the two witnesses are killed, the beast reigns 42 months unhampered by their presence.
Yes,all that WILL happen as the THIRD WOE ----> AFTER THE KILLING OF THE 2 Witnesses ... and their ascension to heaven ...Revelation 11:7-14The 7th trumpet sounds, the war in heaven, and Satan cast down to earth. Up until then, the AOD image placed in the temple is inanimate. Once Satan is cast down, the false prophet will perform a seemingly miracle making the AOD image appear to come alive and speak. But it will be Satan incarnating the image, a lying miracle.
That is not Satan who is the angel who have the key of the Bottomless Pit .The 7th trumpet, like the 7th seal, does not chronologically follow the other trumpets, i.e does not chronologically follow the 6th trumpet.
Satan, when he is cast down, is seen as the falling star in Revelation 9:1, who at some point will open the bottomless pit, and release the flesh tormenting locust, the 5th trumpet.
The star (angel) in Revelation 9 is seen falling. Which indicates that the angel has done something very wrong.That is not Satan who is the angel who have the key of the Bottomless Pit .
The Angel who have the key to open the Bottomless pit Mentioned in Revelation 9... is ALSO the angel who will look Satan into the Bottomless Pit for 1,000 years Mentioned in Revelation 20.
Falling from Heaven in [Rev 9] and coming down out of Heaven in [Rev 20] are synonymous... An angel on a mission that God have send from HeavenThe star (angel) in Revelation 9 is seen falling. Which indicates that the angel has done something very wrong.
Differently, the angel in Revelation 20 is one of the good angel.
Or to close it...Revelation 20.Having the key to the bottomless pit, the key imo is metaphoric for having the means to open it.
Kinda like coming down the stairs in your house is the same as falling down the stairs in your house?Falling from Heaven in [Rev 9]and coming down from Heaven in [Rev 20] are synonymous...
Not a problem for a flying angel....[Rev 9:1] and [Rev 20:1 ] is about an angel send by God...from Heaven...with the mission to open the Bottomless Pit in Rev. 9 and later in Rev 20 with the mission to lock Satan for 1,000 years.Kinda like coming down the stairs in your house is the same as falling down the stairs in your house?
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