Psychiatry - The Hidden Enemy

[Long Island Pilgrim]

I pray this very revealing documentary will be a blessing.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

So one of the complaints is that too much money is wasted on caring for those military with mental health issues after service?

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Get Armoured"s opinion on this might be an idea.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

I just hope its not coming from an agenda of "minimising malingerers" so as to stop huge financial payouts.

 

[Calvinist Dark Lord]

I pray this very revealing documentary will be a blessing.

i have not seen the video, nor do i plan on watching it. However, you may wish to check the source. Many of these videos come from adherents of the Church of Scientology.

i accept psychiatry only because a psychiatrist is an MD, and as such looks for physical causes for "psychological problems" as well as other problems. HOWEVER, i reject psychology which appears to be a false science. My own views are (for the most part) those of the late Dr. Thomas Szasz.

 

[Long Island Pilgrim]

Hi bettercallpaul,
I didn't get the impression that too much money was being wasted in the sense that the payout itself was problematic. I got the impression that they were citing the fact that it had become a huge barbaric industry.

Hi Calvinist Dark Lord. There was no indication that the Church of Scientology was involved in the making of this video . I do think we certainly always have to consider the sources so, having said that, we can equally suspect absolutely every single video posted on the internet. There is an ocean of bad information out there, for sure. When viewing any video I think the question of " Cui-buno" (Literally meaning "who benefits" ) from the information is something that has to be considered. Where is the video steering the viewer ? In this case I think it is steering the viewer away from psychiatry ..not specifically towards anything.

Psychiatry and the dispensation of medication for the cure of souls is dangerous. What Christian soldiers need is solid Biblical based counseling and support .

 

[Long Island Pilgrim]

 

[Calvinist Dark Lord]

Hi bettercallpaul,
I didn't get the impression that too much money was being wasted in the sense that the payout itself was problematic. I got the impression that they were citing the fact that it had become a huge barbaric industry.

Hi Calvinist Dark Lord. There was no indication that the Church of Scientology was involved in the making of this video . I do think we certainly always have to consider the sources so, having said that, we can equally suspect absolutely every single video posted on the internet. There is an ocean of bad information out there, for sure. When viewing any video I think the question of " Cui-buno" (Literally meaning "who benefits" ) from the information is something that has to be considered. Where is the video steering the viewer ? In this case I think it is steering the viewer away from psychiatry ..not specifically towards anything.

i'm happy to see that the Scientologists did not have a hand in this video. The "Who benefits?" certainly works with all religions. In the case of Scientology, one becomes 'clear' by taking their courses and spending a ton of money to do so. In the case of Christianity it is the "Christian psychologists and psychiatrists who benefit. i speak of foundations such as New Life/Minrith-Meyer...may have spelled that incorrectly.

Where Szasz got it wrong was in not recognising that there may well be a physical cause for "Mental Illness". However because the Psychiatrist IS also a medical Doctor, he or she would at least in theory be looking for physical issues.

This opens up another Pandora's box. Our understanding of brain chemistry is in an infantile stage. It is an area where medical research needs to be made right beside work with adult stem cells. We do need to stop using patients as crash test dummies in that field of study (brain chemistry).

Psychiatry and the dispensation of medication for the cure of souls is dangerous. What Christian soldiers need is solid Biblical based counseling and support .

Another weakness that Szasz had was that being an Atheist, he did not recognise that many "behavioural" problems have their root in SPIRITUAL issues. This is more properly the work of a Christian Minister, and not the work of somebody such as a Dr. James Dobson, who has a PhD in Child Psychology and a not-too-good Methodist Church Sunday school education in the field of Theology.

i submit to you that it is often not the case of "either-or". There are at least two other possibilities involved here. First the possibility that an individual's problem may be BOTH physical and spiritual. Second, there is the possibility that their "problem" may be neither physical nor spiritual.

Now i need to back it down a bit. i certainly do not support what is called psychology and i have reservations about most psychiatrists. i've seen those psychiatrists kill too many people by prescribing the wrong drugs (where they were actually needed) or prescribing amounts that caused more trouble from the side effects than the original problem did.

We are not that far apart on this issue.

 

[Long Island Pilgrim]

Nice response Calvinist Dark Lord. thank you.

 

[1watchman]

It has been my experience that there are extremes of imagination and personal ideologies in many such mental/emotional practioners. One should see a recommended (known and thorough) Internal Medicine physician to rule out any organic imbalances or malignancy, if mental/emotional problems persist over extended time. Then if nothing is found bio-chemical, a Clinical Psychologist -Ph.D who is well-known to be a real "born again" believer in Jesus Christ, should be consulted for help in identifying the trauma and deficits in the personality by various testing and analysis. His character as a true Christian will be a good safe-guard. Such so-called "functional disorders" are burdens that develop over many years, and can incapacitate some people who are not strong enough to handle their mental trials of life. This is just a alternative I have confidence in.

 

[TurtleAnne]

There is a lot of corruption in the field of psychiatry, but it's not all bad, nor is all of it bogus. There is a mixture.. of deceit, greed, anti-spirituality, over-medicating, etc.. but then also of professionals who are honest and do care and prescribe sparingly/responsibly and who do not discourage or mock spirituality. It can be very hard to find a good professional when one is in need.

 

[faroukfarouk]

There is a lot of corruption in the field of psychiatry, but it's not all bad, nor is all of it bogus. There is a mixture.. of deceit, greed, anti-spirituality, over-medicating, etc.. but then also of professionals who are honest and do care and prescribe sparingly/responsibly and who do not discourage or mock spirituality. It can be very hard to find a good professional when one is in need.

Truly said.