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Featured Prosperity gospel, the wrong motivation?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by W2L, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. W2L

    W2L Well-Known Member

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    Why is it that prosperity preachers dont teach us to give out of love rather than material gain? Why is our motivation for giving so that we may receive material blessing rather than for sharing love with others? Is love not our motivation in these churches?
     
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  2. Dave-W

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    Sadly, it seems human greed has worked its way in as a motivation.
     
  3. Philip_B

    Philip_B Let all mortal flesh keep silence ... Supporter

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    Our age is not the first to wrestle with the relationship of material well being and spiritual wellbeing. The principle thrust of the Gospel is thanksgiving for what we have been given, and the responsibility to use what we have been given well, and for the benefit of all, especially the poor. The purveyors of the prosperity gospel recognise the providence of God, rightly, however miss the notion that God's providence extends beyond and inconsequential to material well being. There is a strong correlation between true happiness and blessing. Anything more than a cursory observation will tell you that you don't have to be rich to be happy, and indeed some materially affluent people are a long way from happy.
     
  4. Pethesedzao

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    Prosperity Pete emphasises that the loved will give (just the same as heavenly Father does)
     
  5. Pethesedzao

    Pethesedzao Well-Known Member

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    Prosperity has nowt to do with greed
     
  6. W2L

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    Thats true for some.
     
  7. Pethesedzao

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    No such thing as the prosperity gospel.
     
  8. W2L

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    But is that the message we hear from the prosperity pulpit?
     
  9. W2L

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    Sure there is.
     
  10. Pethesedzao

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    The gospel is prosperity
     
  11. LaBèlla

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    Because our giving isn't always out of love. Oftentimes we do things for selfish reasons. Much more than we admit. They're honest about their intentions.

    A tree can only produce fruit after its kind. Consider you comment. If we loved one another as we're called to do the church would be a different place. We don't love. That's part of the problem.

    It is unrealistic to expect unloving people to do things out of love. The flesh is in the way.
     
  12. W2L

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    True
     
  13. New Birth

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    Its because they are hirelings and not true Pastors. They want that offering plate to be full so the percentage they get will be larger.
     
  14. Basil the Great

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    I still remember that famous line that Rev. Ike used in his television ministry a few decades ago, "You can't lose with the stuff I use". I watched him a few times, if only because he was very entertaining.
     
  15. W2L

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    Spiritual prosperity yes. Look at the apostle Paul, he thrived in times of being naked and hungry, as well times of abundance. But did Paul make millions of dollars selling his teaching? Did he buy a huge luxurious mansion? No

    1 Corinthians 7:29 But this I say, brethren, the time has been shortened, so that from now on those who have wives should be as though they had none; 30 and those who weep, as though they did not weep; and those who rejoice, as though they did not rejoice; and those who buy, as though they did not possess; 31 and those who use the world, as though they did not make full use of it; for the form of this world is passing away.
     
  16. W2L

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    I expect nothing but a discussion.
     
  17. W2L

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    Could be true for some, but others might actually just be ignorant.
     
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  18. Hammster

    Hammster The True Light was coming into the world. Staff Member Assistant Advisor Supporter

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    I can’t say any better than Piper.

     
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  19. com7fy8

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    Godliness with contentment is great gain.

    I suppose great gain means great prosperity. And Paul preaches this prosperity >

    "Now godliness with contentment is great gain." (1 Timothy 6:6)

    "godliness is profitable for all things, having promise of the life that now is and of that which is to come." (in 1 Timothy 4:8)
     
  20. W2L

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    But godliness is not about financial gain, as Paul said, so what gain is he referring to? Also, the prosperity doctrine doesnt seem to be about financial contentment but rather financial gain.
     
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