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Pros and cons of religous forums

Discussion in 'Christianity and World Religion' started by cloudyday2, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. Robban

    Robban ----------- Supporter

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    Cockney, just to add a little colour/color

    Here is what I mean by "only if you are you"



    There once was a great Sage by the name of Sasha,
    (not too sure if that is correct name but we can go with it)

    He sensed that his days were coming to an end,
    he looked very disturbed and worried,

    his pupils asked why he was so worried,
    he told them that his days would be at an end soon,

    his pupils could not understand why,
    they all meant that he who was so righteous should not be worried.

    He said he was worried about a question he felt sure he would be asked.

    So he told them,
    If I am asked why I was not like Moses,
    I shall say when did You give me Moses,s humility

    If I am asked why I was not like Abraham,
    I shall say when did You give me Abraham,s generousity.

    So there is not where my problem lays.

    But if I am asked why were you Sasha not Sasha.


    I do not know what I shall say.
     
  2. cloudyday2

    cloudyday2 Generic Theist Supporter

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    A longtime member said he thought the closing of the "general apologetics" forum was motivated by concerns that too many Christian members were losing their faith. Apparently the forum management did not want to be the cause of Christians losing their faith ( Matthew 18:6 ). That is my understanding. I wasn't a member at that time.
     
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  3. grandvizier1006

    grandvizier1006 Still a human by God's grace Supporter

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    I try to avoid all of the argumentative parts of this forum. When I first came here I wasn't very good at that, but nowadays I tend to stick to only a few areas. Real life also got in the way for a bit, but that ended up being a good thing. Most people who post here frequently just to argue seem to have nothing better to do. On the other hand, there are also people here who are smart and benefit from sharing knowledge and beliefs, and other people who are too sick due to medical conditions to leave their house or have much in the way of community, so they need places like this.
     
  4. Starcomet

    Starcomet Unitarian Sacramental Christian

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    Ah, I was on hiatus when that occurred. Well that explains it!
     
  5. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Well, sort of. Perhaps this fills a spot in some lives, but I believe that true teaching and
    likewise (as I've seen, though more rarely today than ever before) family members OR Ekklesia fulfilling Scripture personally caring for those homebound are needed far more than anonymous unfeeling online electronic interactions.....
     
  6. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    I am like the servants, Timothy, Philip, Moses, Abraham, Joseph, Mary, Martha, John, Peter, James and ALL EKKLESIA set apart by YHVH ..........
    all by faith, with heart circumcised not by human hands,
    all "born again" , A NEW CREATION, as written throughout Scripture.
     
  7. Robban

    Robban ----------- Supporter

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    Today we can buy engine parts, original or pirate,

    they look alike.

    Does the Almighty ever do anything twice indentically?
     
  8. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    :)
    Ask the maker.
     
  9. Robban

    Robban ----------- Supporter

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    ( stay clear) of codes and encryptions,


    Example,

    Nachmanides had a student whose name was Avner.

    This student became an apostate and rose to power after transgressing greatly he summoned his teacher,

    wanting to get into an argument with him,

    nachmanides asked him, "What was it that brought you to such rebellien?"

    He replied, "Once I heard you expound that you can find every detail of Jewish observance,

    as well as every thing that exists in the world,

    in the Torah reading of Haazinu (Deuteronomy 32:1-52),

    and since I know it was impossible I renounced everything
    and became a new man."

    His teacher replied, "I still stand by that, ask what you wish."

    Avner said, "If so show me where my name is mentioned
    there."

    Nachmanides went into a corner and prayed,
    then returned and said,
    "It is written "," I said that I would make an end of them,
    I will eradicate their rememberence from mankind."

    In the Hebrew, the third letter of every word of the verse
    spells out Rabbi Avner."

    Avner asked is there a cure?

    Nachmanides responded, "You have heard the words of the verse itself"
    telling him that he should dissapear and become forgotten as
    alluded to in the verse.

    Avner took a ship and went off to wherever the wind took him and was never heard from again.


    Have to be careful what we wish for.
     
    Last edited: Jan 5, 2019
  10. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Whatever someone seeks, that is what they find.
    Only a few find eternal life.
     
  11. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    The price is paid for the parts, regardless what brand, original, or pirate, or other.
    The same money will pay for either/ any of them.

    For a multitude of very very different people, for men, for women, for boys, for girls,
    The same blood is required sacrifice ......
     
  12. Zoness

    Zoness 667, neighbor of the beast Supporter

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    The problem (and sometimes fun) of numerology is you can make up literally any system for it, and it fits. I could probably find several dozen numbers on this thread page alone and try to contrive some meaning from it. But humans love patterns! Recognizing patterns is something our species is insanely good at, no wonder were attracted to religious where signs are hidden and shown.

    Honestly it was so long ago that I don't remember exactly but this sounds right. It turns out that once you chip away at people's presuppositions about reality, god, the bible etc. they really start to question the foundation and explore on their own; which is a big no no to some.
     
  13. Robban

    Robban ----------- Supporter

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    What has that got to do with the price of fish?
     
  14. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    1 Corinthians 6:20 you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God ...

    https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/6-20.htm

    For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body. .... Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us:

    Galatians 3:13-15 NLV - Christ bought us with His blood and - Bible ...

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3%3A13-15&version...

    Christ did this by carrying the load and by being punished instead of us. ... 14 Because of the price Christ Jesus paid, the good things that came to Abraham might come to the people ... 15 Christian brothers, let me show you what this means.
     
  15. dlamberth

    dlamberth Senior Contributor Supporter

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    Becoming more Human in this life. That seems to me a more worthy goal.
     
  16. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Be a human with eternal life starting today.

    TODAY, IF you hear His Voice, do not rebel as they did in the wilderness and PERISHED.
     
  17. Kaon

    Kaon Well-Known Member

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    Religious forums are more of a psychological think tank of philosophy than a "religious" [safe]haven.

    But, also because the Truth is kept secret in the open, and defended by the majority of people. Everyone plays as an agent for or against truth - whether conscious or unconscious. Religious forums are dangerous because on one hand individuals have the opportunity to express themselves spiritually with meager anonymity, while on the other hand must be willing to entertain evisceration of the same ideas one holds dear.

    In general, my opinion is if you are "religious," you have no choice but to lean toward atheism in the long run - which is more of a demerit on the "religion". The relationship with the Most High God is a personal love relationship. The relationship with Mammon, or Thoth, or Zig may be different.


    Most all people, even people of "no faith", have a god they follow - even if it is self (ego). Religious forums targeted to one religion bring out the opponents by consequence.
     
  18. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    This is the opposite , totally opposite, of life, and contrary to all Scripture Says, and opposed to what Yahweh Reveals.
     
  19. Robban

    Robban ----------- Supporter

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    Ten powerful things were created in the world.

    Mountains are hard,
    but iron cuts through them,
    iron is hard, but fire melts it,
    fire is strong, but water extinguishes it,
    water is strong, but clouds bear it,
    clouds are strong, but wind scatters them,
    wind is strong, but the body contains it,
    the body is strong, but fear breaks it,
    fear is potent, but wine dispels it,
    wine is powerful, but sleep assuages it,
    and stronger than all these is death,

    But charity delivers from death.
     
  20. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Please, (good), verify (or clarify) from TORAH.
     
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