Proof???!!!!!

[Carey]

Yes it's all a big conspiracy

Hepatitis C can be a very mild disease where symptoms come and go. So do you think your cousin is cured because he's feeling ok or is it because he has been tested negative after an initial positive?

He initially tested postive.

He then started taking herbs and supplements a friend of the family suggested and altered his diet.

To his stupid western doctors amazement within a couple weeks tested negative after having Hep C for years.He had liver damage from it.

His liver enzymes are back to normal.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

I guess you have not been following the thread.

HIV and Cancer can be cured to without sruregry or drugs.

I guess you have not been following the last three posts.

You claimed here that "the evil AMA and other Organizations with false studies that are widely promoted by these evil western medicine agancies" say that Hepatitis C cannot be cured.

I gave you a link to one of those "agancies", namely the not completely irrelevant CDC, which clearly states that even under unfavorable circumstances, half of HepC patients can be cured.

Anything else?

 

[thaumaturgy]

the evil AMA and other Organizations with false studies

The "evil AMA"????

Who in their right mind considers the AMA "evil"? Honestly.

It's one thing to disagree with an AMA study or stance, but to lable them "evil" goes way beyond disagreement.

Let's look at a list of some of this "evil" organization's most egregious evil actions:

1903, AMA publishes Principles of Medical Ethics.
1904, AMA establishes the Council on Medical Education to raise educational requirements for physicians .
1905, AMA creates the Council on Pharmacy and Chemistry to set standards for drug manufacturing and advertising. The Council also fought against quack patent medicines.
1970, AMA encourages the Federal Aviation Administration to require all airlines to separate nonsmokers from smokers.
1974, AMA gives recommendations to insure adequate protection of individuals used in human medical experimentation.
1982, AMA urges each state medical society to support laws to raise the legal drinking age to 21.
2000, AMA supports Patients' Bill of Rights legislation in Congress.
(SOURCE)

Wow, these guys sound like Satan's handmaids!

Look, there are aspects of the AMA I disagree with, but the occasional controversy doesn't render their work any less important or good.

So, please, drop the "evil" rhetoric will you.

 

[Carey]

The "evil AMA"????

Who in their right mind considers the AMA "evil"? Honestly.

It's one thing to disagree with an AMA study or stance, but to lable them "evil" goes way beyond disagreement.

Let's look at a list of some of this "evil" organization's most egregious evil actions:

1903, AMA publishes Principles of Medical Ethics.
1904, AMA establishes the Council on Medical Education to raise educational requirements for physicians .
1905, AMA creates the Council on Pharmacy and Chemistry to set standards for drug manufacturing and advertising. The Council also fought against quack patent medicines.
1970, AMA encourages the Federal Aviation Administration to require all airlines to separate nonsmokers from smokers.
1974, AMA gives recommendations to insure adequate protection of individuals used in human medical experimentation.
1982, AMA urges each state medical society to support laws to raise the legal drinking age to 21.
2000, AMA supports Patients' Bill of Rights legislation in Congress.
(SOURCE)

Wow, these guys sound like Satan's handmaids!

Look, there are aspects of the AMA I disagree with, but the occasional controversy doesn't render their work any less important or good.

So, please, drop the "evil" rhetoric will you.

Are you even aware of what the AMA symbol is??

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Are you even aware of what the AMA symbol is??

It's the rod of Asclepius. Every medical organization in the world uses it.

 

[Carey]

It's the rod of Asclepius. Every medical organization in the world uses it.

Very good

The rod of Asclepius (also known as the rod of Asklepios, rod of Aesculapius or asklepian[1]) is an ancient Greek symbol associated with
( astrology) occultism in our face here

The rod of Asclepius symbolizes the healing arts by combining the serpent,( WHAT DOES THE SERPENTSYMBOLIZE IN GODS WORD ? ) which in shedding its skin is a symbol of rebirth and fertility, with the staff, a symbol of authority befitting the
( god of Medicine. ) Balsphemy

also known as the Aesculapian or Asclepian snake. It is native to southeastern Europe, Asia Minor, and some central European spa regions, apparently brought there by Romans for their healing properties

What does the Bible say about Paganism?? Rome , Europe and Asia were pagan at these times when this symbol was starting to be used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_of_Asclepius

 

[thaumaturgy]

Are you even aware of what the AMA symbol is??

And the Rod of Asclepius has exactly what to do with the AMA being evil? It wouldn't matter if their symbol was a pitchfork and swastika, they do good work. The kind of work that means you and I and everyone in the U.S. gets to live safer, healthier, better lives.

I listed those good things they have done, and you roll out some bizarre "conspiracy-theory" paranoid junk in response????

Compare average lifespans from the past to today. (Oh and if you want to roll out a "people lived for 900 years during the patriarchal eras", then please point to one skeletal find of a human that had achieved over 150 years of age. Just one. And don't even start with people having infinite lifespans before "the Fall", or at least prove it...that's kind of a joke, but I doubt you follow the inherent absurdity to it, so I won't bother you with explaining it.)

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Very good

The rod of Asclepius (also known as the rod of Asklepios, rod of Aesculapius or asklepian[1]) is an ancient Greek symbol associated with
( astrology) occultism in our face here

The rod of Asclepius symbolizes the healing arts by combining the serpent,( WHAT DOES THE SERPENT SYMBOLIZE IN GODS WORD ? )

which in shedding its skin is a symbol of rebirth and fertility, with the staff, a symbol of authority befitting the
( god of Medicine. ) Balsphemy

also known as the Aesculapian or Asclepian snake. It is native to southeastern Europe, Asia Minor, and some central European spa regions, apparently brought there by Romans for their healing properties

What does the Bible say about Paganism?? Rome , Europe and Asia were pagan at these times when this symbol was starting to be used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_of_Asclepius

Two words, Carey: SO WHAT.

Did you read my post about the CDC information on HepC cures?

 

[gamespotter10]

Very good

The rod of Asclepius (also known as the rod of Asklepios, rod of Aesculapius or asklepian[1]) is an ancient Greek symbol associated with
( astrology) occultism in our face here

The rod of Asclepius symbolizes the healing arts by combining the serpent,( WHAT DOES THE SERPENTSYMBOLIZE IN GODS WORD ? ) which in shedding its skin is a symbol of rebirth and fertility, with the staff, a symbol of authority befitting the
( god of Medicine. ) Balsphemy

also known as the Aesculapian or Asclepian snake. It is native to southeastern Europe, Asia Minor, and some central European spa regions, apparently brought there by Romans for their healing properties

What does the Bible say about Paganism?? Rome , Europe and Asia were pagan at these times when this symbol was starting to be used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_of_Asclepius

it symbolises healing the sick through medicine.

what exactly is your problem with medicine that has been rigourously tested, as opposed to your ancient crappy herbal medicines which have no scientific studies to back up their potency.

 

[FishFace]

Yes there have been people cured of HIV .

MY cousin was cured of Hepetitus C which the evil AMA and other Organizations with false studies that are widely promoted by these evil western medicine agancies say cannot be cured.

From wikipedia:

"[Hepatitis] can be self limiting, healing on its own or can progress to scarring of the liver."

If they admitted these things could be cured the entire western world economy would collapose . Use your brain.

Uh... how and why? The western world economy is not in any way built around the denial of the curability of one disease.

Forgive me if I sound harsh but it is a little upsetting to me to see what are apparently intelligent people so easily lead aroud like mindless cattle.

That bang you heard was the sound of everyone's irony meters simultaneously exploding. You are the one who believes any old thing as long as it sounds good and is backed by the anecdote of ONE friend - and you call us - who accept things on the basis of evidence and statistics - mindless cattle? Puh-leeze.

 

[FishFace]

I guess you have not been following the thread.

HIV and Cancer can be cured to without sruregry or drugs.

NO. HIV and Cancer can go away without surgery or drugs. You have ZERO solid evidence that they "were cured" by your interventions - all you have is one person who ate some fruity chocolate (or something) and his cancer also went away. Hey, this morning I put slippers on, and after a while I felt slightly ill. Now, did putting slippers on cause me to feel ill? Or was it the result of drinking too much last night?

 

[FishFace]

Very good

The rod of Asclepius (also known as the rod of Asklepios, rod of Aesculapius or asklepian[1]) is an ancient Greek symbol associated with
( astrology) occultism in our face here

The rod of Asclepius symbolizes the healing arts by combining the serpent,( WHAT DOES THE SERPENTSYMBOLIZE IN GODS WORD ? ) which in shedding its skin is a symbol of rebirth and fertility, with the staff, a symbol of authority befitting the
( god of Medicine. ) Balsphemy

also known as the Aesculapian or Asclepian snake. It is native to southeastern Europe, Asia Minor, and some central European spa regions, apparently brought there by Romans for their healing properties

What does the Bible say about Paganism?? Rome , Europe and Asia were pagan at these times when this symbol was starting to be used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_of_Asclepius

<sarcasm>Oh! Well! If they use a symbol that, in one context is seen as evil or paganistic then they must be evil! Clearly we should judge by logo, not by action!</sarcasm>

Good GRIEF! You're calling an association evil because their logo has a snake on it?! I find that hard to take seriously - are you just trolling us?

You may want to check the logo here.

 

[Chalnoth]

Besides, a very similar symbol is used for healing in the Bible:

[bible]Numbers 21:4-9[/bible]

 

[Carey]

And the Rod of Asclepius has exactly what to do with the AMA being evil? It wouldn't matter if their symbol was a pitchfork and swastika, they do good work. The kind of work that means you and I and everyone in the U.S. gets to live safer, healthier, better lives.

I listed those good things they have done, and you roll out some bizarre "conspiracy-theory" paranoid junk in response????

Compare average lifespans from the past to today. (Oh iand if you want to roll out a "people lived for 900 years during the patriarchal eras", then please point to one skeletal find of a human that had achieved over 150 years of age. Just one. And don't even start with people having infinite lifespans before "the Fall", or at least prove it...that's kind of a joke, but I doubt you follow the inherent absurdity to it, so I won't bother you with explaining it.)

Prove that the science we have today can actually prove how long a person lived by examining their skeltal remains 200 or 2000 years ago years ago.

I say that science is probably incorrect and I could find a scientist to agree and give evidence as to why he did.

As far as saying even a swatstika symbol would be OK if they do good works well that is debatable but also I guess it would be debatable to say whether or not Nazis did ( ANY ) good work.

 

[Carey]

Besides, a very similar symbol is used for healing in the Bible:

[bible]Numbers 21:4-9[/bible]

Satanism is big on similarities between its rituals and Gods....I guess that is why Satan is also called the deciever.

 

[Carey]

<sarcasm>Oh! Well! If they use a symbol that, in one context is seen as evil or paganistic then they must be evil! Clearly we should judge by logo, not by action!</sarcasm>

Good GRIEF! You're calling an association evil because their logo has a snake on it?! I find that hard to take seriously - are you just trolling us?

You may want to check the logo here.

Yes this logo is a Wizards staff with 2 serpents the symbol of Satan with wings of a fallen angel watching over is false practices and beliefs.

 

[Carey]

NO. HIV and Cancer can go away without surgery or drugs. You have ZERO solid evidence that they "were cured" by your interventions - all you have is one person who ate some fruity chocolate (or something) and his cancer also went away. Hey, this morning I put slippers on, and after a while I felt slightly ill. Now, did putting slippers on cause me to feel ill? Or was it the result of drinking too much last night?

You can lead a horse to water but.........

 

[Blayz]

Prove that the science we have today can actually prove how long a person lived by examining their skeltal remains 200 or 2000 years ago years ago.

Dont need science. Just go to the births/deaths/maraiges registry for any country for the last few hunded years.

 

[gamespotter10]

Yes this logo is a Wizards staff with 2 serpents the symbol of Satan with wings of a fallen angel watching over is false practices and beliefs.

its an ancient greek symbol that symbolises healing the sick through medicine. do you have any evidence that says this is a satanic symbol?

 

[Carey]

Dont need science. Just go to the births/deaths/maraiges registry for any country for the last few hunded years.

The point was science cannot prove that before the flood people did not live to be several hundred years old.

But with science slowly catching up to diet and nutrition we should see the ( average ) life span for "man" or mankind reach 120 years.

If you check the oldest people in recent years they are all about 120 give or take a few years.
And their food and soil had the nutrients in it it needed before modern garming and medicine. Thats why they lived that long

Genesis 6 : 3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with [a] man forever, for he is mortal [b] ; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."